(11-06-2014 12:23 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  I knew that GS and App would be very good adds, but didn't know how good. We definitely came out of realignment winners, but dropping FIU and FAU and picking up those two. If WKU, MTSU, and UNT would have stayed, we would be WAY past C-USA. I still really like the makeup of this league and think if we will all hang in there we can become the top G5 conference within the next 5 years or so. I honestly just don't see C-USA as the shining beacon that some think or used to think it was. I know ULM doesn't have much of a chance of going C-USA, but I honestly wouldn't want to as long as we can hold this group together. I know this has been discussed ad nauseum, but with our upcoming game against a very improved App St. team, it got me thinking. I was thinking App and GS were going to be two pretty easy wins on our way to bowl eligibility this year, but that is definitely not the case. Go SBC!

I've been promoting that for almost two months. We have a great nucleus for one butt-kicking conference. I've been saying at the AAC board that GS is perfectly happy here in the SunBelt and that this conference will be very strong in three to five years. The key is to not defect.

This is the most excitement I have seen in Statesboro since 2000. I love the conference and am excited about the level of competition in all sports. GS will be a good addition in Baseball and let's not forget softball or men's golf. We have struggled in basketball but I like our new young coaches and believe we can add to the conference in the next few seasons. I know we can get crazy as fans but we are passionate about our Eagles and what you will find good host when you come to the Boro, I agree like others this conference is going to be hell to deal with very soon.

HailSouthern!

(11-06-2014 04:06 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 03:48 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  I wouldn't say Ga State is "far worse" than FIU and FAU. You want to count basketball and they are better than either of the Florida schools in that sport. In football, they are not just a transition team but a new program. As for Ga Southern competing from the start, you might look at UTSA starting football from scratch a few years ago and finishing 6-2 in their first year in CUSA.

You take out Marshall and their incredibly weak schedule this year and there is little difference in the performance of the two leagues. CUSA has 7 teams with 3 or fewer wins and the SBC has 6 with 3 or fewer wins.

As for attendance without ECU, I hardly believe CUSA is actually doing any better than the SBC. UTSA still has the new car smell and the fired chicken effect. UTEP has good numbers on paper for a struggling program. Who else in the conference holds up to ULL or Arkansas State in attendance?

I would gladly take back fau over a few teams we have in the belt. I believe FIU will be fine in the long run as well.

And you're comparing our top 2 attendance versus their whole conference? Come on man, outside of us 2 and maybe app our conference attendance is horrid..

Texas State and Georgia Southern have good attendance. Compare these two to UNT currently

(11-06-2014 04:15 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Losing the F_U's hurt in baseball, losing wku and MTSU hurt basketball and baseball. Georgia state is a strength in basketball and baseball. App and GS are good additions in football and GS is pretty good in baseball. Do whatever you want with that info

Texas State is not chopped liver in baseball. We would throttle both of those F U teams.

(11-06-2014 05:05 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 04:58 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 04:53 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 04:48 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 04:15 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Losing the F_U's hurt in baseball, losing wku and MTSU hurt basketball and baseball. Georgia state is a strength in basketball and baseball. App and GS are good additions in football and GS is pretty good in baseball. Do whatever you want with that info

I'm not trying to be contrary and appreciate the compliment, but GS traditionally has a very good baseball program. Our history/accomplishments are very similar to UL and USA. It's too early to talk about it and I'm concerned about how this year is looking, but I'm excited for baseball season! This is a very strong baseball conference.

Basketball... We might surprise some people. Betcha we don't though.

That's what I said, you are a plus addition in baseball but we lost 4 pretty good baseball programs and only gained 3

I'm sorry I'm stupid but are you saying the positive baseball adds are GS, GSU, and App? I don't know anything about NMSU and Idaho... any good?

Txst, not App...nmsu and Idaho are football only...and my bad, forgot about UTA...pretty solid baseball...so may actually be a wash on that front. Basketball may be the sport we really need to work on.

Bump ^^^^ cat79

(11-06-2014 01:41 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Thanks for saving us from the SoCon.

Damn glad to be here.

My thoughts as well. I am glad we are here!

We are much more in a league with schools like us now. Simply put Ga. Southern and App. belong in a conference with schools like Arkansas St., Louisiana, Texas St. and Troy.

We fit so much better than with schools like Wofford, Furman, Samford and the other privates in the SmallCon.

(11-06-2014 10:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are much more in a league with schools like us now. Simply put Ga. Southern and App. belong in a conference with schools like Arkansas St., Louisiana, Texas St. and Troy.

We fit so much better than with schools like Wofford, Furman, Samford and the other privates in the SmallCon.

If you ask them, they now say they are better off too. Easy road to the playoffs every year and all that.

(11-06-2014 10:25 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are much more in a league with schools like us now. Simply put Ga. Southern and App. belong in a conference with schools like Arkansas St., Louisiana, Texas St. and Troy.

We fit so much better than with schools like Wofford, Furman, Samford and the other privates in the SmallCon.

If you ask them, they now say they are better off too. Easy road to the playoffs every year and all that.

Not too easy...since the SmallCon is suddenly a one-bid league in our absence.

(11-06-2014 10:31 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:25 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are much more in a league with schools like us now. Simply put Ga. Southern and App. belong in a conference with schools like Arkansas St., Louisiana, Texas St. and Troy.

We fit so much better than with schools like Wofford, Furman, Samford and the other privates in the SmallCon.

If you ask them, they now say they are better off too. Easy road to the playoffs every year and all that.

Not too easy...since the SmallCon is suddenly a one-bid league in our absence.

And one of the public schools is more then likely going to be the winner of the autobid; UTchat and if it wasn't them probably would have been WCU


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We are grateful for an invite to join Sun Belt. I know some of our fans are over the top but we are very happy to be here.

(11-06-2014 10:48 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:31 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:25 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are much more in a league with schools like us now. Simply put Ga. Southern and App. belong in a conference with schools like Arkansas St., Louisiana, Texas St. and Troy.

We fit so much better than with schools like Wofford, Furman, Samford and the other privates in the SmallCon.

If you ask them, they now say they are better off too. Easy road to the playoffs every year and all that.

Not too easy...since the SmallCon is suddenly a one-bid league in our absence.

And one of the public schools is more then likely going to be the winner of the autobid; UTchat and if it wasn't them probably would have been WCU


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Let that sink in for a minute.

(11-06-2014 11:32 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:48 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:31 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:25 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 10:21 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are much more in a league with schools like us now. Simply put Ga. Southern and App. belong in a conference with schools like Arkansas St., Louisiana, Texas St. and Troy.

We fit so much better than with schools like Wofford, Furman, Samford and the other privates in the SmallCon.

If you ask them, they now say they are better off too. Easy road to the playoffs every year and all that.

Not too easy...since the SmallCon is suddenly a one-bid league in our absence.

And one of the public schools is more then likely going to be the winner of the autobid; UTchat and if it wasn't them probably would have been WCU


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Let that sink in for a minute.

Yeah, perennial loser Western Carolina. And I always felt sorry for them for having such a lousy team.

(11-06-2014 08:37 PM)Cat79 Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 04:06 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 03:48 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  I wouldn't say Ga State is "far worse" than FIU and FAU. You want to count basketball and they are better than either of the Florida schools in that sport. In football, they are not just a transition team but a new program. As for Ga Southern competing from the start, you might look at UTSA starting football from scratch a few years ago and finishing 6-2 in their first year in CUSA.

You take out Marshall and their incredibly weak schedule this year and there is little difference in the performance of the two leagues. CUSA has 7 teams with 3 or fewer wins and the SBC has 6 with 3 or fewer wins.

As for attendance without ECU, I hardly believe CUSA is actually doing any better than the SBC. UTSA still has the new car smell and the fired chicken effect. UTEP has good numbers on paper for a struggling program. Who else in the conference holds up to ULL or Arkansas State in attendance?

I would gladly take back fau over a few teams we have in the belt. I believe FIU will be fine in the long run as well.

And you're comparing our top 2 attendance versus their whole conference? Come on man, outside of us 2 and maybe app our conference attendance is horrid..

Texas State and Georgia Southern have good attendance. Compare these two to UNT currently

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Sun Belt:
RankTeam Average Games
1 Ark St 28,163 3
2 Louisiana 26,802 5
3 App St 24,694 4
4 Texas St 22,418 4
5 GS 22,306 4
6 USA 19,951 4
7 Troy 17,985 4
8 ULM 17,749 4
9 Ga State 15,145 5
10 NMSU 14,325 4
11 Idaho 13,974 4

CUSA 2014 Team Attendance
Rank Team Average Games
1 UTSA 30,291 4
2 UTEP 29,646 4
3 Marshall 28,566 4
4 Southern Miss 24,096 4
5 UAB 23,309 4
6 Louisiana Tech 20,561 4
7 Old Dominion 20,118 4
8 North Texas 19,962 4
9 MTSU 18,441 5
10 Rice 17,818 3
11 WKU 16,675 3
12 Charlotte* 15,350 3
13 Florida Atlantic 14,866 4
14 FIU 11,830 7

No major disparity in attendance that I can see.

(11-06-2014 03:48 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  I wouldn't say Ga State is "far worse" than FIU and FAU. You want to count basketball and they are better than either of the Florida schools in that sport. In football, they are not just a transition team but a new program. As for Ga Southern competing from the start, you might look at UTSA starting football from scratch a few years ago and finishing 6-2 in their first year in CUSA.

You take out Marshall and their incredibly weak schedule this year and there is little difference in the performance of the two leagues. CUSA has 7 teams with 3 or fewer wins and the SBC has 6 with 3 or fewer wins.

As for attendance without ECU, I hardly believe CUSA is actually doing any better than the SBC. UTSA still has the new car smell and the fired chicken effect. UTEP has good numbers on paper for a struggling program. Who else in the conference holds up to ULL or Arkansas State in attendance?

Ga State is probably the worst FBS team in the country, FIU & FAU do at least have wins and have been competitive in most of their games. And yes, they do still have better attendance, you can look that up for yourself. And really you can apply the same logic, take out Ark State and GaSo and the Sunbelt hasn't looked like much of anything in football this year. Not to mention the fact that they actually won their games against the Sunbelt head to head.

Some of you still don't seem to get the fact that there's more to a conference than just having an occasional good year in football, which is why they're still above the Sunbelt in the pecking order. You guys have that same mentality that they do with the AAC, somehow some way you just refuse to admit the obvious. I mean hell, who else in the SUNBELT holds up to ULL or Ark State in attendance? And I won't even talk about those Ga State reported attendance numbers. If you really think the Sunbelt is a better conference than CUSA from all aspects, then it's probably good that you aren't an AD.

UAB has better attendance than Southern? kill me now

(11-07-2014 07:58 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Ga State is probably the worst FBS team in the country, FIU & FAU do at least have wins and have been competitive in most of their games. And yes, they do still have better attendance, you can look that up for yourself. And really you can apply the same logic, take out Ark State and GaSo and the Sunbelt hasn't looked like much of anything in football this year. Not to mention the fact that they actually won their games against the Sunbelt head to head.

Some of you still don't seem to get the fact that there's more to a conference than just having an occasional good year in football, which is why they're still above the Sunbelt in the pecking order. You guys have that same mentality that they do with the AAC, somehow some way you just refuse to admit the obvious. I mean hell, who else in the SUNBELT holds up to ULL or Ark State in attendance? And I won't even talk about those Ga State reported attendance numbers. If you really think the Sunbelt is a better conference than CUSA from all aspects, then it's probably good that you aren't an AD.

Just for your information, this is a Sun Belt forum. And it's two words - Sun Belt. When you reference CUSA, you should probably say "we're" instead of "they're" and then **** off. If you want to add something useful to the conversation, that's great. Otherwise, no one here cares.

(11-07-2014 07:58 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 03:48 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  I wouldn't say Ga State is "far worse" than FIU and FAU. You want to count basketball and they are better than either of the Florida schools in that sport. In football, they are not just a transition team but a new program. As for Ga Southern competing from the start, you might look at UTSA starting football from scratch a few years ago and finishing 6-2 in their first year in CUSA.

You take out Marshall and their incredibly weak schedule this year and there is little difference in the performance of the two leagues. CUSA has 7 teams with 3 or fewer wins and the SBC has 6 with 3 or fewer wins.

As for attendance without ECU, I hardly believe CUSA is actually doing any better than the SBC. UTSA still has the new car smell and the fired chicken effect. UTEP has good numbers on paper for a struggling program. Who else in the conference holds up to ULL or Arkansas State in attendance?

Ga State is probably the worst FBS team in the country, FIU & FAU do at least have wins and have been competitive in most of their games. And yes, they do still have better attendance, you can look that up for yourself. And really you can apply the same logic, take out Ark State and GaSo and the Sunbelt hasn't looked like much of anything in football this year. Not to mention the fact that they actually won their games against the Sunbelt head to head.

Some of you still don't seem to get the fact that there's more to a conference than just having an occasional good year in football, which is why they're still above the Sunbelt in the pecking order. You guys have that same mentality that they do with the AAC, somehow some way you just refuse to admit the obvious. I mean hell, who else in the SUNBELT holds up to ULL or Ark State in attendance? And I won't even talk about those Ga State reported attendance numbers. If you really think the Sunbelt is a better conference than CUSA from all aspects, then it's probably good that you aren't an AD.

You think people nationally view F_U, NT, MTSU etc as being better programs because they are in CUSA vs the SBC? The difference in the big picture is negligible. In fact, if we were eligible and had we not blown the GT and ncsu games, we would be ahead of Marshall for the G5 auto bid. That should tell you a lot.

Please please please don't let this turn into a SBC
Vs cusa thread...

(11-07-2014 07:58 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  Ga State is probably the worst FBS team in the country, FIU & FAU do at least have wins and have been competitive in most of their games. And yes, they do still have better attendance, you can look that up for yourself. And really you can apply the same logic, take out Ark State and GaSo and the Sunbelt hasn't looked like much of anything in football this year. Not to mention the fact that they actually won their games against the Sunbelt head to head.

Some of you still don't seem to get the fact that there's more to a conference than just having an occasional good year in football, which is why they're still above the Sunbelt in the pecking order. You guys have that same mentality that they do with the AAC, somehow some way you just refuse to admit the obvious. I mean hell, who else in the SUNBELT holds up to ULL or Ark State in attendance? And I won't even talk about those Ga State reported attendance numbers. If you really think the Sunbelt is a better conference than CUSA from all aspects, then it's probably good that you aren't an AD.

We're right there with them. And that's with three rain games and a snow game