Hare makes decisions very slowly and is hopefully not the future of NIU... Hope Root is the guy

the fumble pass in the 4th qtr was his fault but moreover the coaches...should run the damn ball with your rbs in that situation and did not need to pass

(11-06-2014 09:45 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 09:40 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 09:04 AM)niusfactuary Wrote:  Unpopular opinion alert:

While I think Da'Ron is really good at getting open, I feel like unless the pass is perfect, he doesn't come up with it. Hare's passes are not often perfect, but rarely do you see Brown make an effort to go down and get a ball that might be a little low, or reach back to try and catch one that's a little behind him.

Brown is going to be the guy in this years NFL Draft where people on here say "If he gets a chance he's going to succeed. He's tough as nails." And when he doesn't people are going to blame all the NFL teams for not giving him a chance.

Nope. He is not good enough.

Maybe not you but you can already see posters sticking up for him on the last page. This will be similar to the Jordan Lynch saga.

He's similar to Martel. Not quick enough to play in the slot, not big enough to play out wide in the NFL.

Since there are a lot of comments in this thread about DaRon having bad hands would someone please point out any specific throws he should have had last night. List the quarter and time so we can look at them on ESPN3. I honestly don't remember any. Some of those throws that look catchable in real time turn out to be real bad in replay. Many were way behind him.

Da'Ron had some drop problems last year but his hands have been pretty solid this year. I did think he should have had the one bomb last night. Thought it went right through his hands.

(11-06-2014 01:52 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 01:51 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(11-06-2014 01:39 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Announced attendance: 6,642. Pretty sad, but that's what happens on a weeknight game when the home team is not fighting for anything. That attendance would have been even lower with bad weather.

That would never happen at EMU

A Wednesday night MACtion game at EMU would most definitely be 20k+!!!

19,000 is their number for the rest of the season...will lead the conf in attendance

I should clarify my opinion from earlier. I don't think he has bad hands. I think he could expend a little more effort trying to catch balls that aren't perfectly laid into his arms.

(11-06-2014 10:04 PM)7 Wrote:  Da'Ron had some drop problems last year but his hands have been pretty solid this year. I did think he should have had the one bomb last night. Thought it went right through his hands.

+1. But it looked like he misjudged it and was off balance.

(11-06-2014 08:31 AM)HuskieTom51 Wrote:  Hare has a very tough time gripping the ball and throwing the quick WR screen and the slant passes. I'm not sure if his hands are small or if the colder weather is affecting his grip. In any case, if we expect to win out, he better improve his accuracy and ball handling.

I noticed that too. Neither Niu qb seemed to throw the bubble screen as good as the almighty Jordan Football Lynch

How lucky are we that CMU screwed the pooch against Ball State (at home) somehow?

CMU has two games left, both at home, against Miami and WMU. We would be needing major help from WMU in order to get to Detroit if not for the Ball State miracle.

(11-07-2014 02:07 PM)7 Wrote:  How lucky are we that CMU screwed the pooch against Ball State (at home) somehow?

CMU has two games left, both at home, against Miami and WMU. We would be needing major help from WMU in order to get to Detroit if not for the Ball State miracle.

A Dan Enos coached team will do that for you every once in a while.

(11-07-2014 02:07 PM)7 Wrote:  How lucky are we that CMU screwed the pooch against Ball State (at home) somehow?

CMU has two games left, both at home, against Miami and WMU. We would be needing major help from WMU in order to get to Detroit if not for the Ball State miracle.

Speaking of this, it would have been helpful that WMU lost to ball state. Them only having one loss isn't exactly the best.

(11-07-2014 02:13 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:07 PM)7 Wrote:  How lucky are we that CMU screwed the pooch against Ball State (at home) somehow?

CMU has two games left, both at home, against Miami and WMU. We would be needing major help from WMU in order to get to Detroit if not for the Ball State miracle.

Speaking of this, it would have been helpful that WMU lost to ball state. Them only having one loss isn't exactly the best.

I'm not sure really how much it matters. Unless you're working off the theory that WMU won't play as hard against NIU if their eliminated from the West race, that game is going to be a must win for NIU pretty much no matter what.

There is an instance where NIU might be able to afford to drop the Ohio game, though.

NIU beats Toledo and WMU
Toledo loses to Bowling Green
WMU loses to CMU

Even with a loss to Ohio, NIU would have the head to head tiebreaker over both WMU and Toledo, and CMU would have 3 conferences losses.

Likely? No. Possible? Absolutely.

(11-07-2014 02:13 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:07 PM)7 Wrote:  How lucky are we that CMU screwed the pooch against Ball State (at home) somehow?

CMU has two games left, both at home, against Miami and WMU. We would be needing major help from WMU in order to get to Detroit if not for the Ball State miracle.

Speaking of this, it would have been helpful that WMU lost to ball state. Them only having one loss isn't exactly the best.

Only way Western has a shot is if Toledo loses to both us and BG. They could play spoiler for us if we beat Toledo and Ohio, but they're chances for Detroit rest solely with the Rockets losing twice.

I think it's pretty likely at this point Toledo drops both those games.

(11-07-2014 02:22 PM)7 Wrote:  I think it's pretty likely at this point Toledo drops both those games.

I wouldn't say it's likely, but it's definitely more of a possiblity now.

Ah that's why HuskieBob wanted Toledo to beat BGSU.

My point was I think there is a possibility toledo, CMU, NIU and WMU could all have two losses. It wasn't that they wouldn't try as hard but I don't know the mathematics cuz I haven't looked but I think it's posisble.

Also besides head to head which would be all sorts of effed up if there was a 4 way tie it goes to beat crossover record? Which NIU wouldn't win

Quote:Also besides head to head which would be all sorts of effed up if there was a 4 way tie it goes to beat crossover record? Which NIU wouldn't win

It wouldn't go to crossover record according to the UBBullRun website (SB Nation affiliate). How I read it...

1. Records against each other
- "the team with the best head-to-head record amongst the tied teams wins the tie-breaker"
- If there is no single winner, start again with all of them at #2

2. Records against those in the division
- "Record of tied teams within the division"
- If there is no single winner from here, continue to #3, but anyone who is not tied as winner is eliminated from the analysis

3. Your East Division SoS (by their conference record)
- "Comparison of conference winning percentage of cross-over opponents of tied teams"
- If there is no single winner from here, continue to #4, but anyone who is not tied as winner is eliminated from the analysis

4. Your comparative W/L vs East Division
- "Record of tied teams versus cross-division opponents in rank order"

IF this is true (I could be wrong, read the article) -- then by my analysis, Toledo would win.

In #1 (Record amongst each other):
Toledo (2-1, loss to NIU)
NIU (1-2, loss to CMU, WMU)
WMU (1-2, loss to Toledo, CMU)
CMU (2-1, loss to Toledo)

Since no single winner, try #2 (Again, I think it reads that only After #2 begins, do you Not start from scratch)

Records against those in the West (basically, who lost most to an East team wins, oddly enough):
Toledo (4-1, loss to NIU)
NIU (3-2, loss to CMU, WMU)
WMU (3-2, loss to Toledo, CMU)
CMU (3-2, loss to Toledo, BSU)

TOLEDO WINS (because their 2nd loss would be to BGSU in the East). BOO.

WMU would win #3, but a final winner Toledo would be chosen before that.

http://www.ubbullrun.com/2013/10/31/5047...e-breakers