It is extremely unlikely the SEC gets left out. It's also extremely unlikely that any conference gets 2 teams in.

For the SEC to get left out you would have to see something like the West champ having to loses and the losing the conference championship game to whoever limps in from the east.

Yes, upsets happen, but the way I see it playing out is FSU, Bama/MSU winner, Oregon, 1 loss Big 12 champ

(11-12-2014 06:50 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  No, even if Bama and Moo St have the same record, Bama plays in the Championship game because they won head to head. TCU and Baylor will be co-champs.

Moo St loses to Alabama and OM. Bama loses to Auburn. That will give the SEC champion at least two losses. FSU, Oregon/ASU, OSU/Nebraska and TCU/Baylor all win out. Good Chance both Baylor and TCU win out. With no conference title game that would give us a possible 5 teams with only 1 loss or less.(6 if you count poor red headed step child Marshall)

Which makes it possible for the SEC to be left out.

(11-13-2014 01:45 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 06:50 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  No, even if Bama and Moo St have the same record, Bama plays in the Championship game because they won head to head. TCU and Baylor will be co-champs.

Moo St loses to Alabama and OM. Bama loses to Auburn. That will give the SEC champion at least two losses. FSU, Oregon/ASU, OSU/Nebraska and TCU/Baylor all win out. Good Chance both Baylor and TCU win out. With no conference title game that would give us a possible 5 teams with only 1 loss or less.(6 if you count poor red headed step child Marshall)

Which makes it possible for the SEC to be left out.

Add to it that Georgia wins the $EC Championship and you seal the fate, especially if they were to lose to Auburn...
I don't see that happening though. I do see Moo St losing two, but don't think Auburn has it in itself to beat Bama unless they play a great game. Georgia is the fly right now. Getting back Gurley with fresh legs for the final 3 games is pretty huge!!

Today when bama beats MSU by a field goal you'll see how msu only rolls to 4th & bama moves to 3. You'll also see ole miss begin to creep back up & if they win out they will replace MSU as the 4th playoff team.

(11-15-2014 01:24 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Today when bama beats MSU by a field goal you'll see how msu only rolls to 4th & bama moves to 3. You'll also see ole miss begin to creep back up & if they win out they will replace MSU as the 4th playoff team.

It will be interesting.

How far will a 3 loss and 4 loss Auburn and LSU fall. Assuming LSU falls out of the T25, MSU will have one T25 (three loss Auburn) win and slaw for their OOC schedule (UAB, USM, South Alabama and UT-M).

If ole miss moves back into the playoff the NCAA should be shut down, especially with TCU, Baylor, Oregon and Ohio State still with only 1 loss.

For the $EC to get two in would b a joke!!!! If Moo State buries ole miss and then Bama destroys Georgia, that could be their ONLY case!!!

(11-16-2014 02:31 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  If ole miss moves back into the playoff the NCAA should be shut down, especially with TCU, Baylor, Oregon and Ohio State still with only 1 loss.

For the $EC to get two in would b a joke!!!! If Moo State buries ole miss and then Bama destroys Georgia, that could be their ONLY case!!!

Bama will get in. Then, a 1 loss state will make it or if ole miss beats state & Baylor, tcu & osu all lose one more ole miss will be the 2 loss that makes it. Add to that scenario an Oregon loss & state would make the 3rd sec team in. As you all can see, basing the premise of an sec lock out of the playoff off of two loss teams can be turned into the SEC once again being in position to place three teams in. It's all conjecture. But I can assure you the sec will not be omitted. If all else fails a 2 loss team will make it in over a one loss big12 or B1G team.

Moo and Alabama need only win.

Shall see if a TCU or Baylor will be ahead of that..but with the opportunity to beat a good team on the road, Moo likely only needs to win.

FSU, Baylor, Ohio State, TCU, Oregon cannot lose...schedules too soft. A Florida win over the Winston enablers puts two SEC schools in.

A Florida win over the best QB in the nation and defending National Champs... yeah, I agree would.
Ohio State wins over Wisconsin, they are in.
Oregon beats whoever, they are in.
FSU stays unbeaten, they are in.
Leaves only one spot. Georgia wins the $EC Championship...
TCU or Baylor are in.
Two weeks and I get to actually cheer for Auburn and ole miss... go figure!?!! Add Arkansas to the mix, because there isn't a chance Mizzou beats any team from the West in the title game.

All hell would have to break loose for the $EC to get three teams in... I know it would be some people's wet dream on this board, but it won't happen.
Face it... Moo State beat "3 top 10 teams" to deserve that spot!!!
Wait, Texas A&M (ranked in the top 10 because an upset over pre-seson top 10 SC) no longer ranked. L$U - no longer ranked. Auburn - just destroyed by Georgia, only ranked team State has beaten.

Bama, has played two currently ranked teams - record 1-1.

ole miss has played two currently ranked teams - record 0-2.

There is no way those three teams represent the 3/4th of the best teams in the nation.

(11-17-2014 04:31 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  All hell would have to break loose for the $EC to get three teams in... I know it would be some people's wet dream on this board, but it won't happen.
Face it... Moo State beat "3 top 10 teams" to deserve that spot!!!
Wait, Texas A&M (ranked in the top 10 because an upset over pre-seson top 10 SC) no longer ranked. L$U - no longer ranked. Auburn - just destroyed by Georgia, only ranked team State has beaten.

Bama, has played two currently ranked teams - record 1-1.

ole miss has played two currently ranked teams - record 0-2.

There is no way those three teams represent the 3/4th of the best teams in the nation.

Everything has a way of working itself out doesn't it?

And for a little more sunshine, Notre Dame got whacked so there's no way they can get them in the top four no matter how bad they want them there.

If the Alabama or Miss State win the SEC (with 1 loss), then no arguements over a SEC team getting a playoff spot.

But...If Georgia or Missouri wins the SEC championship over either Alabama, MSU or Ole Miss, you end up with a 2-loss SEC champ. I have a hard time believing a 2-loss Georgia or Missouri team knocks out a 1-loss TCU, Oregon, Ohio State or an undefeated FSU.

And...god forbid....what happens if Missouri loses (to TN or ARK), and Georgia loses to Georgia Tech then wins the SEC championship game? Then, you'd have a 3-loss SEC champ. Absolutely no way the SEC gets a bid with a 3-loss champion.

I can't wait to sit back and enjoy the wailing and gnashing of teeth around here if that happens!

I get a kick out of Bama one game removed from a lackluster/fortunate win over an now unranked LSU team followed by a game in which they couldn't put away a MSU team that (looking at their schedule in a macro view) has one win over a ranked team. That is enough to jump from 5 to 1?

Interesting.

If Ole Miss beats #4 Miss State in the egg bowl, they will have wins over #1 Alabama & #4 Miss State.

(11-20-2014 01:01 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I get a kick out of Bama one game removed from a lackluster/fortunate win over an now unranked LSU team followed by a game in which they couldn't put away a MSU team that (looking at their schedule in a macro view) has one win over a ranked team. That is enough to jump from 5 to 1?

Interesting.

It's all about those preseason rankings and the sec has that down to an art.

Bama has only ONE win this year over a team with less than 4 losses.
That game is against Moo State. Moo State was listed as the most complete team in football mostly due to their 3 game streak with wins over top 10 teams Texas A&M, L$U and Auburn... two of which are not curretly ranked and Auburn has 3 losses. To those that point to Auburn having to play in the West, just remember they got destroyed by Georgia.
Once again, this week I find myself having to root for ut to beat Mizzou and Arkansas, then next week I get to cheer for ole miss and Auburn. Then the $EC has no team with less than two losses. The West rep, which I guess would be Bama would play a 3 loss Georgia team... oh yeah, would make it even better if Georgia Tech wins.

Once again you have talking heads talking about how "dominant" Bama is. Another stat worth noting, they have only played 4 road games and 1 neutral site game... their average margin of victory in those 5 games is only 5 points.