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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 08:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:24 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  
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(11-06-2014 04:50 PM)NIUHuskies27 Wrote:  NIU moving to the ACC would be great. The MAC is consistently one of the bottom conferences. With all the success we are having we should make the move before it is too late. A move won't have overnight though. We need to be able to sustain the success we are having in the MAC while increasing the popularity of the program and filling the stadium up.

It wouldn't help the long term future and it would incur major major travel costs.

Well what do you suggest then? Being complacent and playing the same ****** MAC schools over and over? That is the reason this fan base has reached it's limits. People don't want to see NIU play WMU on Tuesday nights anymore.

Travel cost will go up, but that is a price to pay for better Division 1 football.

Many would argue including me, its no better. I just don't see how bringing Tulane, SMU, Temple to Huskie Stadium is any more appealing than Miami-OH, Ball State, and Bowling Green.

Interesting which AAC teams you chose to make your point. Two bottom feeders and another that's having a fairly good, although surprising year.

What about Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, UConn, Memphis and Tulsa? Without a doubt, those schools will draw better than any team in the MAC, with the exception of Toledo.
11-06-2014 09:04 PM
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 09:04 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:24 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 05:23 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 04:50 PM)NIUHuskies27 Wrote:  NIU moving to the ACC would be great. The MAC is consistently one of the bottom conferences. With all the success we are having we should make the move before it is too late. A move won't have overnight though. We need to be able to sustain the success we are having in the MAC while increasing the popularity of the program and filling the stadium up.

It wouldn't help the long term future and it would incur major major travel costs.

Well what do you suggest then? Being complacent and playing the same ****** MAC schools over and over? That is the reason this fan base has reached it's limits. People don't want to see NIU play WMU on Tuesday nights anymore.

Travel cost will go up, but that is a price to pay for better Division 1 football.

Many would argue including me, its no better. I just don't see how bringing Tulane, SMU, Temple to Huskie Stadium is any more appealing than Miami-OH, Ball State, and Bowling Green.

Interesting which AAC teams you chose to make your point. Two bottom feeders and another that's having a fairly good, although surprising year.

What about Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, UConn, Memphis and Tulsa? Without a doubt, those schools will draw better than any team in the MAC, with the exception of Toledo.

Houston and UConn, and Memphis Tulsa have their god awful years also. I think Memphis is just coming out of a long span of time of being the laughing stock of FBS. Those teams just wont bring anyone to Huskie Stadium with the exception of Cincinatti perhaps
11-06-2014 09:22 PM
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 09:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:04 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:24 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 05:23 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It wouldn't help the long term future and it would incur major major travel costs.

Well what do you suggest then? Being complacent and playing the same ****** MAC schools over and over? That is the reason this fan base has reached it's limits. People don't want to see NIU play WMU on Tuesday nights anymore.

Travel cost will go up, but that is a price to pay for better Division 1 football.

Many would argue including me, its no better. I just don't see how bringing Tulane, SMU, Temple to Huskie Stadium is any more appealing than Miami-OH, Ball State, and Bowling Green.

Interesting which AAC teams you chose to make your point. Two bottom feeders and another that's having a fairly good, although surprising year.

What about Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, UConn, Memphis and Tulsa? Without a doubt, those schools will draw better than any team in the MAC, with the exception of Toledo.

Houston and UConn, and Memphis Tulsa have their god awful years also. I think Memphis is just coming out of a long span of time of being the laughing stock of FBS. Those teams just wont bring anyone to Huskie Stadium with the exception of Cincinatti perhaps

What good MAC team brings fans to Huskie Stadium?
11-06-2014 09:46 PM
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 09:46 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:04 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:24 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Well what do you suggest then? Being complacent and playing the same ****** MAC schools over and over? That is the reason this fan base has reached it's limits. People don't want to see NIU play WMU on Tuesday nights anymore.

Travel cost will go up, but that is a price to pay for better Division 1 football.

Many would argue including me, its no better. I just don't see how bringing Tulane, SMU, Temple to Huskie Stadium is any more appealing than Miami-OH, Ball State, and Bowling Green.

Interesting which AAC teams you chose to make your point. Two bottom feeders and another that's having a fairly good, although surprising year.

What about Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, UConn, Memphis and Tulsa? Without a doubt, those schools will draw better than any team in the MAC, with the exception of Toledo.

Houston and UConn, and Memphis Tulsa have their god awful years also. I think Memphis is just coming out of a long span of time of being the laughing stock of FBS. Those teams just wont bring anyone to Huskie Stadium with the exception of Cincinatti perhaps

What good MAC team brings fans to Huskie Stadium?
Not that I support MD's opinion, but:
Toledo, and Ball State on a good year... BGSU, too.
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 11:34 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:19 AM)ADOG05 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:14 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  ECU, UConn, Memphis, Cincinnati vs EMU, Kent St, Akron, Miami (OH)

Much better conference games.

I would be more likely to sit through those games when it's below 20 degrees in November. I imagine other people and casual fans feel the same. I believe AAC games are typically Thursday and Friday later in the season.

They are Thursday and Friday thought the season.

http://www.theamerican.org/documents/201...hedule.pdf

Home games on Thursday or Friday
Fri - UCONN vs BYU
Fri - UC vs Toledo
Fri - USF vs UCONN
Thurs - Houston - UCF
Thurs - UCF - BYU
Thurs - ECU - UCONN
Fri - UC vs USF
Thurs - Tulane vs UC
Thurs - Tulsa vs Memphis
Fri - UCF vs Tulsa
Fri - USF vs UCF
Fri - ECU vs Tulsa (12 day pick)
Fri - Houston vs SMU (12 day pick)
Fri - UCF vs ECU (12 day pick)

UCF has 1 Thurs and 2 Fri night home games
USF has 2 Friday night home games
UC has 2 Friday night home games
Houston has 1 Thurs and 1 Friday night home games
ECU has 1 Thurs and 1 Friday night home games
Tulsa and Tulane each have 1 Thursday night home game

That is 7 of the 11 teams having at least 1 weeknight home game and 5 of the 11 having at least 2 weeknight home games.
You bring up an excellent point. As much as MAC fans whine about TU & WED games at least the conference is not competing against the NFL or High School football for fans and and viewership as the AAC is on Thursday and Friday nights.
11-07-2014 02:58 AM
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Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 09:47 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:46 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:04 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 08:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Many would argue including me, its no better. I just don't see how bringing Tulane, SMU, Temple to Huskie Stadium is any more appealing than Miami-OH, Ball State, and Bowling Green.

Interesting which AAC teams you chose to make your point. Two bottom feeders and another that's having a fairly good, although surprising year.

What about Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, UConn, Memphis and Tulsa? Without a doubt, those schools will draw better than any team in the MAC, with the exception of Toledo.

Houston and UConn, and Memphis Tulsa have their god awful years also. I think Memphis is just coming out of a long span of time of being the laughing stock of FBS. Those teams just wont bring anyone to Huskie Stadium with the exception of Cincinatti perhaps

What good MAC team brings fans to Huskie Stadium?
Not that I support MD's opinion, but:
Toledo, and Ball State on a good year... BGSU, too.

Not anymore for Toledo or ball state. We will never get a full sellout for a cold weeknight game in the middle of November. All of our "prime" MAC opponents get moved to nov. Week nights. It would be nice to play a close conference rival on a typical Saturday game. It would make it easier for opponents to travel here and us to travel to places like WMU BSU Toledo. All three of these games are non-Saturday games now
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
It is not a lateral move, but also not the type of move that would lead to anywhere. The AAC is not a strong enough conference to welfare NIU to another level, but it is enough of a step up in competition that NIU would not standout.

It is probably better to keep being the big fish in the MAC for another 10 years while making the needed internal changes (grow the NIU brand within the NIU community).
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-07-2014 07:36 AM)KMR_NIU_13 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:47 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:46 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:04 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Interesting which AAC teams you chose to make your point. Two bottom feeders and another that's having a fairly good, although surprising year.

What about Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, UConn, Memphis and Tulsa? Without a doubt, those schools will draw better than any team in the MAC, with the exception of Toledo.

Houston and UConn, and Memphis Tulsa have their god awful years also. I think Memphis is just coming out of a long span of time of being the laughing stock of FBS. Those teams just wont bring anyone to Huskie Stadium with the exception of Cincinatti perhaps

What good MAC team brings fans to Huskie Stadium?
Not that I support MD's opinion, but:
Toledo, and Ball State on a good year... BGSU, too.

Not anymore for Toledo or ball state. We will never get a full sellout for a cold weeknight game in the middle of November. All of our "prime" MAC opponents get moved to nov. Week nights. It would be nice to play a close conference rival on a typical Saturday game. It would make it easier for opponents to travel here and us to travel to places like WMU BSU Toledo. All three of these games are non-Saturday games now

our success hurts us. ESPN does not want to show EMU v Kent on a week day. They are going to put on the better matchups. But it would be nice to play Toledo on the last saturday of October at 2:30. SF is moving to get schedule to benefit us more. Playing 3 of the last 4 on the road is tough. Have to win in spite of it
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 09:46 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  What good MAC team brings fans to Huskie Stadium?

The only time MAC opponent fans show up well is when they are ranked and its a Saturday game. Such a rare chance of that happening any more because of the November weeknight games.

WMU and CMU fans show up the best overall but only if its a Saturday game.
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-07-2014 07:36 AM)KMR_NIU_13 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:47 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:46 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 09:04 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Interesting which AAC teams you chose to make your point. Two bottom feeders and another that's having a fairly good, although surprising year.

What about Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Houston, UConn, Memphis and Tulsa? Without a doubt, those schools will draw better than any team in the MAC, with the exception of Toledo.

Houston and UConn, and Memphis Tulsa have their god awful years also. I think Memphis is just coming out of a long span of time of being the laughing stock of FBS. Those teams just wont bring anyone to Huskie Stadium with the exception of Cincinatti perhaps

What good MAC team brings fans to Huskie Stadium?
Not that I support MD's opinion, but:
Toledo, and Ball State on a good year... BGSU, too.

Not anymore for Toledo or ball state. We will never get a full sellout for a cold weeknight game in the middle of November. All of our "prime" MAC opponents get moved to nov. Week nights. It would be nice to play a close conference rival on a typical Saturday game. It would make it easier for opponents to travel here and us to travel to places like WMU BSU Toledo. All three of these games are non-Saturday games now

In the AAC our best 1-3 home game/s would be on Thursday or Friday nights. The up side though is they would be spread through the year so you have a chance of hosting the game at a decent temp.
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-07-2014 02:58 AM)Policiious Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:34 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:19 AM)ADOG05 Wrote:  
(11-06-2014 11:14 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  ECU, UConn, Memphis, Cincinnati vs EMU, Kent St, Akron, Miami (OH)

Much better conference games.

I would be more likely to sit through those games when it's below 20 degrees in November. I imagine other people and casual fans feel the same. I believe AAC games are typically Thursday and Friday later in the season.

They are Thursday and Friday thought the season.

http://www.theamerican.org/documents/201...hedule.pdf

Home games on Thursday or Friday
Fri - UCONN vs BYU
Fri - UC vs Toledo
Fri - USF vs UCONN
Thurs - Houston - UCF
Thurs - UCF - BYU
Thurs - ECU - UCONN
Fri - UC vs USF
Thurs - Tulane vs UC
Thurs - Tulsa vs Memphis
Fri - UCF vs Tulsa
Fri - USF vs UCF
Fri - ECU vs Tulsa (12 day pick)
Fri - Houston vs SMU (12 day pick)
Fri - UCF vs ECU (12 day pick)

UCF has 1 Thurs and 2 Fri night home games
USF has 2 Friday night home games
UC has 2 Friday night home games
Houston has 1 Thurs and 1 Friday night home games
ECU has 1 Thurs and 1 Friday night home games
Tulsa and Tulane each have 1 Thursday night home game

That is 7 of the 11 teams having at least 1 weeknight home game and 5 of the 11 having at least 2 weeknight home games.
You bring up an excellent point. As much as MAC fans whine about TU & WED games at least the conference is not competing against the NFL or High School football for fans and and viewership as the AAC is on Thursday and Friday nights.

Eh that was not really my point at all. The AAC games on Thursday and Friday definitely get better ratings than all the MACtion games. A much larger group of average Joes watch the AAC games. It definitely helps that there is only 1 college football game going on that night AND the AAC game is usually on a better channel with some on ESPN/ESPN2 for them instead of ESPN2/ESPNU for the MAC.

I agree though playing on a Friday night would hurt attendance from the High School football crowd compared to a Saturday (other than for Homecoming) but really not even close to what we see in general with a Tuesday or Wednesday night game in November.
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RE: Moving to the AAC would be a lateral move...
(11-06-2014 07:43 AM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  Any move from the MAC is an upgrade

Moving to FCS would be an upgrade to MAC. Lol jk
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