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(07-12-2014 07:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nervous?

no, not in KY. that chick is a lightweight. ironically enough, I'm worried about NC, GA, and -- get this -- MS.

mcdaniel could be about to hand the 51st seat to the democrats.
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Alison Lundergan Grimes supports Obamacare
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...s-support/

Who are the dumbfuks in Kentucky that are going to vote for this silly chick?
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(07-12-2014 07:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Alison Lundergan Grimes supports Obamacare
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...s-support/

Who are the dumbfuks in Kentucky that are going to vote for this silly chick?
The few hundred people who voted for Obama in the 2008 Kentucky Democratic primary (which Obama almost lost), and Matt Bevin.
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(07-12-2014 07:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nervous?

They should be. She's no joke candidate. I actually think that she beats McConnell. Here's why. No one likes McConnell. No one. Its not going to be a good year for the Dems (6 year elections rarely are for the party in power). Although, I'm beginning to think for the first time in a while that maybe this year might be more like 1998 than 2010.

ALG is a proven vote getter in Kentucky and won her seat in an off year election in an awful political environment for a Democrat.
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(07-12-2014 10:24 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 07:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Alison Lundergan Grimes supports Obamacare
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...s-support/

Who are the dumbfuks in Kentucky that are going to vote for this silly chick?
The few hundred people who voted for Obama in the 2008 Kentucky Democratic primary (which Obama almost lost), and Matt Bevin.

She won STATEWIDE in 2011. Republican polling shows ALG up http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/20...Y_0614.pdf And that's on a poll showing Obama with a 33 percent approve/ 60 percent disapprove rating. This election won't be about Obama, but about McConnell. And that's why I think he loses. McConnell is currently losing 14% of voters that are disapproving of Obama's performance as President.

By the way, candidates that I thought were toast in this cycle (Hagan, Landrieu, Pryor, and Begich) seem to be competitive. The Dems need to win four of the following races to hold the Senate.

KY, LA, AR, CO, GA, AK, IA, NC. Right now Begich is tied in AK, Landrieu is slightly leading in LA (How is that even possible?) Pryor is slightly behind in AR, Udall is slightly up in CO, Nunn is slightly behind in GA (but Republican polling shows Nunn leading (!), Braley slightly up in IA, Grimes up slightly in KY, and Hagen consistently ahead in NC. So if the election were held today, the final would be Dems with 51, GOP with 48, and Alaska tied. Its obviously not over, but I'll take that result in Mid July.

And if the GOP doesn't take the Senate this year, it gets really ugly for them. You see 2016 is setup to be an 'ugly' year for the GOP. Its a high turnout Presidential year. The 2016 map favors the Dems in the Senate based upon the seats available.
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(07-12-2014 11:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 10:24 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 07:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Alison Lundergan Grimes supports Obamacare
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...s-support/
Who are the dumbfuks in Kentucky that are going to vote for this silly chick?
The few hundred people who voted for Obama in the 2008 Kentucky Democratic primary (which Obama almost lost), and Matt Bevin.
She won STATEWIDE in 2011. Republican polling shows ALG up http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/20...Y_0614.pdf And that's on a poll showing Obama with a 33 percent approve/ 60 percent disapprove rating. This election won't be about Obama, but about McConnell. And that's why I think he loses. McConnell is currently losing 14% of voters that are disapproving of Obama's performance as President.
By the way, candidates that I thought were toast in this cycle (Hagan, Landrieu, Pryor, and Begich) seem to be competitive. The Dems need to win four of the following races to hold the Senate.
KY, LA, AR, CO, GA, AK, IA, NC. Right now Begich is tied in AK, Landrieu is slightly leading in LA (How is that even possible?) Pryor is slightly behind in AR, Udall is slightly up in CO, Nunn is slightly behind in GA (but Republican polling shows Nunn leading (!), Braley slightly up in IA, Grimes up slightly in KY, and Hagen consistently ahead in NC. So if the election were held today, the final would be Dems with 51, GOP with 48, and Alaska tied. Its obviously not over, but I'll take that result in Mid July.
And if the GOP doesn't take the Senate this year, it gets really ugly for them. You see 2016 is setup to be an 'ugly' year for the GOP. Its a high turnout Presidential year. The 2016 map favors the Dems in the Senate based upon the seats available.

Republicans are really screwed if they don't take the senate in 2014. This is the cycle that is stacked in their favor, 2016 goes the other way. Maybe if they fail this time--or even if the succeed--they'll realize they're on the wrong path if they expect to win elections.

The country desperately needs republicans to take the senate in 2014. Not because their ideas are better--they're not. But because both parties' ideas are so bad that gridlock is far superior to either side's getting its way.
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(07-12-2014 07:05 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 07:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nervous?

no, not in KY. that chick is a lightweight. ironically enough, I'm worried about NC, GA, and -- get this -- MS.

mcdaniel could be about to hand the 51st seat to the democrats.

NC is in the bag for democrats. Republicans are spending almost no money hear and Hagan has at least 2 commercials an hour on t.v. Funny thing, she doesn't want to talk about her support of Obamacare or O's immigration policy in any of the ads. Is she running from O?
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NC is not in the bag. Its only July and she is an incumbant and stuck in the mid 40's percent. She may well triumph, but it'll be a turnout race, just like most of them. Unlike 2008, she doesnt have Obamas cotails to ride.

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RE: deer, caught in headlights, running for senate in KY
(07-13-2014 05:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 11:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 10:24 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 07:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Alison Lundergan Grimes supports Obamacare
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...s-support/
Who are the dumbfuks in Kentucky that are going to vote for this silly chick?
The few hundred people who voted for Obama in the 2008 Kentucky Democratic primary (which Obama almost lost), and Matt Bevin.
She won STATEWIDE in 2011. Republican polling shows ALG up http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/20...Y_0614.pdf And that's on a poll showing Obama with a 33 percent approve/ 60 percent disapprove rating. This election won't be about Obama, but about McConnell. And that's why I think he loses. McConnell is currently losing 14% of voters that are disapproving of Obama's performance as President.
By the way, candidates that I thought were toast in this cycle (Hagan, Landrieu, Pryor, and Begich) seem to be competitive. The Dems need to win four of the following races to hold the Senate.
KY, LA, AR, CO, GA, AK, IA, NC. Right now Begich is tied in AK, Landrieu is slightly leading in LA (How is that even possible?) Pryor is slightly behind in AR, Udall is slightly up in CO, Nunn is slightly behind in GA (but Republican polling shows Nunn leading (!), Braley slightly up in IA, Grimes up slightly in KY, and Hagen consistently ahead in NC. So if the election were held today, the final would be Dems with 51, GOP with 48, and Alaska tied. Its obviously not over, but I'll take that result in Mid July.
And if the GOP doesn't take the Senate this year, it gets really ugly for them. You see 2016 is setup to be an 'ugly' year for the GOP. Its a high turnout Presidential year. The 2016 map favors the Dems in the Senate based upon the seats available.

Republicans are really screwed if they don't take the senate in 2014. This is the cycle that is stacked in their favor, 2016 goes the other way. Maybe if they fail this time--or even if the succeed--they'll realize they're on the wrong path if they expect to win elections.

The country desperately needs republicans to take the senate in 2014. Not because their ideas are better--they're not. But because both parties' ideas are so bad that gridlock is far superior to either side's getting its way.

Stop falling for left wing BS. His data isn't even correct.
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(07-12-2014 11:32 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 07:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nervous?

They should be. She's no joke candidate. I actually think that she beats McConnell. Here's why. No one likes McConnell. No one. Its not going to be a good year for the Dems (6 year elections rarely are for the party in power). Although, I'm beginning to think for the first time in a while that maybe this year might be more like 1998 than 2010.

ALG is a proven vote getter in Kentucky and won her seat in an off year election in an awful political environment for a Democrat.
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Democrats feel more hopeful than they did a few months ago about Sen. Mary Landrieu’s reelection prospects. She became chairwoman of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, which helps in the oil-rich state. And she ran effective biographical spots that showcased her still-popular father Moon, who has special appeal to crucial African-American voters after helping integrate New Orleans as mayor in the 1970s.


But Republicans are confident that Landrieu’s “clout” argument won’t get her to 50 percent in November, especially when Obama continues to block construction of the Keystone XL pipeline and pushes Environmental Protection Agency regulations. That would almost certainly mean an early-December runoff, likely with GOP Rep. Bill Cassidy, a relatively bland medical doctor.

Landrieu is a notoriously relentless politician. That’s helped her survive even as the state has become redder. But she has an exceedingly difficult job this fall: to drive up black voter turnout and simultaneously appeal to independents and conservative Democrats who disapprove of Obama.

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It turns out Mark Pryor is not Blanche Lincoln. In 2010, there was never much doubt that Lincoln — one of only three Democratic Senate incumbents to lose reelection in the past decade — would get wiped out. Republicans saw Pryor as a dead man walking when Rep. Tom Cotton got into the race and cleared the field. But the conventional wisdom has shifted; big Democratic TV buys drove up Cotton’s negatives, and the race is very much in play. After some public polls showed Pryor ahead, a handful of Republican internal surveys have shown Cotton in the lead.


Pryor, who didn’t even draw a Republican opponent in 2008, is a skilled retail campaigner with an independent image. But Arkansas has grown more conservative, and Pryor has voted for every signature Obama initiative, including Obamacare. Despite Cotton’s controversial votes, whether against the farm bill or the Violence Against Women Act, he is a slight favorite at this point.

3. North Carolina


Freshman Sen. Kay Hagan does not have an established family “brand” like Landrieu and Pryor, which makes it easier to run against her as a generic Obama Democrat. But the president is more popular in North Carolina — he lost the state in 2012 by only 2 percentage points — than in Louisiana or Arkansas.

After conservative outside groups spent tens of millions bombarding Hagan, women’s groups are now rallying to her defense. But, because she was elected in 2008, all her major accomplishments are the accomplishments of an unpopular administration. Republicans plan to run a campaign against Hagan similar to the one she ran against Elizabeth Dole in 2008: tying her to the president and calling her an ineffective legislator.

(Also on POLITICO: Dems' best shot in Mississippi)

State House Speaker Thom Tillis won the nomination without a runoff. He is now overseeing a special session of the state Legislature, which brings some political headaches, along with stories about GOP infighting. Hagan’s path to victory requires destroying Tillis’ image in a way that drives women and African-Americans to the polls.

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Even though Mitt Romney won the state by 14 points, freshman Sen. Mark Begich looks better positioned than any other Democratic incumbent running in a state carried by the GOP ticket in 2012.

The former mayor of Anchorage has run a flawless campaign thus far, and operatives on both sides agree this race will remain tight until the end. Begich’s ads have highlighted his fights with the Obama administration on behalf of the state. And he has benefited from a well-funded super PAC that has battered GOP challenger Dan Sullivan with millions in attack ads.

This may not be enough. Sullivan, a Marine and former natural resources commissioner, is heavily favored to win a three-way August primary over Lt. Gov. Mead Treadwell and Joe Miller, who defeated Lisa Murkowski in a 2010 primary and lost in the general. Both Treadwell and Miller teamed up on Sullivan in a recent debate, but Club for Growth and American Crossroads are unified behind the front-runner.

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Ernst is poised, has a good bio — she’s from a rural area and is in the Army Reserve — and is running as an outsider. And Republican Terry Branstad, who’s favored to win reelection to a sixth term as governor, could give her a boost. But Ernst also took positions in the primary that could hurt her in the general, from opposing minimum-wage increases to criticizing the Clean Water Act.

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Democratic Sen. Mark Udall looked safe until Rep. Cory Gardner jumped into the race and cleared the GOP primary field. Several polls have shown the race in this purple state, which Obama and George W. Bush each won twice, within the margin of error. Outside groups on both sides could make this one of the year’s costliest races.

Democrats think Republican women in the Denver suburbs and exurbs will decide the winner. Udall has been running ads highlighting Gardner’s past support for personhood legislation and strong opposition to abortion. Gardner has renounced his support for personhood and last month came out in favor of letting women buy birth control over the counter.

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7. Kentucky


Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is very vulnerable, with dangerously low approval and high negatives that belie the state’s Republican lean in federal elections. Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes has shown she can raise a lot of money, but it’s unclear whether she can hold her own against the wily McConnell in debates and on the stump.

Grimes, Kentucky’s secretary of state, benefits from not being in Congress: She didn’t vote for Obamacare and can run as an outsider against a three-decade incumbent. Grimes has distanced herself from the new coal regulations, though she took heat for not broaching the issue during a fundraiser with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid last month.


But it’s a tall order for any Democratic challenger to win in the Bluegrass State in this climate.

8. Georgia


Democrat Michelle Nunn, a nonprofit executive and daughter of moderate former Sen. Sam Nunn, has run a very good campaign so far. Georgia isn’t as deep-red as many think, and the younger Nunn doesn’t have to defend a record in Congress.

Her best hope had been for a far-right Republican to emerge from a free-for-all primary, but that didn’t happen. The two most establishment-friendly candidates are facing each other in a July 22 runoff. Though he finished second in the first round of voting, Rep. Jack Kingston is favored to prevail.

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Bottom line: Nunn needs a Republican stumble to win. But either way, Republicans will need to put a good amount of money into defending the seat, which is currently held by retiring GOP Sen. Saxby Chambliss.

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Republican Terri Lynn Land has self-funded her campaign to the tune of more than $1.5 million through this March, and she has proved to be a good fundraiser who can draw outside money, too. But she’s also had stumbles over the past few months that have left party leaders unimpressed.

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Michigan is a blue-leaning state, but Republicans can certainly win there, especially an open seat in an off year. Gov. Rick Snyder, up for reelection, might give Land some coattails.

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Scott Brown’s campaign rollout has not lived up to the expectations of national Republicans, who spent the better part of a year practically begging him to take on popular Sen. Jeanne Shaheen. The former Republican senator from Massachusetts, who lost to Elizabeth Warren in 2012, was defined early by negative attack ads. He trails by low-double-digit margins in recent polls, and he’s viewed more unfavorably than favorably.

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There are three lower-tier races Republicans hope will become competitive if the climate is right, provided their first-time candidates raise enough money to keep pace with well-funded first-term senators: businessman Mike McFadden against Minnesota Sen. Al Franken, pediatric neurosurgeon Monica Wehby against Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkley and former Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie against Virginia Sen. Mark Warner.
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(07-13-2014 06:54 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 07:05 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
(07-12-2014 07:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nervous?

no, not in KY. that chick is a lightweight. ironically enough, I'm worried about NC, GA, and -- get this -- MS.

mcdaniel could be about to hand the 51st seat to the democrats.

NC is in the bag for democrats. Republicans are spending almost no money hear and Hagan has at least 2 commercials an hour on t.v. Funny thing, she doesn't want to talk about her support of Obamacare or O's immigration policy in any of the ads. Is she running from O?

If ALG gets a clear lead and Hagen gets clear of the GOP in NC, then the Dems only have to win 2 of the following 6 to retain control. AK, CO, LA, ARK, GA, and IA. And right now, they're up in three of them and tied in a fourth.
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Any word on what % ALG is getting in Kentucky?
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(11-04-2014 09:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Any word on what % ALG is getting in Kentucky?

On our local news here in Cincinnati they have already called it for Mitch and it wasn't even close. Last I saw was 61%-38% but that wasn't with 100% reporting.
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Speaking of deer in the headlights, though unrelated, I saw a car hit a deer a few feet in front of me this morning. Scary.
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(11-04-2014 09:47 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(11-04-2014 09:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Any word on what % ALG is getting in Kentucky?

On our local news here in Cincinnati they have already called it for Mitch and it wasn't even close. Last I saw was 61%-38% but that wasn't with 100% reporting.
Looks like the final tally will be 56-41.

It is interesting to compare some of the make-believe political fantasies of mid-July -- posted earlier in this thread -- with the political realities of Election Night four months later.
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(07-12-2014 11:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  By the way, candidates that I thought were toast in this cycle (Hagan, Landrieu, Pryor, and Begich) seem to be competitive. The Dems need to win four of the following races to hold the Senate.

KY, LA, AR, CO, GA, AK, IA, NC. Right now Begich is tied in AK, Landrieu is slightly leading in LA (How is that even possible?) Pryor is slightly behind in AR, Udall is slightly up in CO, Nunn is slightly behind in GA (but Republican polling shows Nunn leading (!), Braley slightly up in IA, Grimes up slightly in KY, and Hagen consistently ahead in NC. So if the election were held today, the final would be Dems with 51, GOP with 48, and Alaska tied. Its obviously not over, but I'll take that result in Mid July.

Thus far, it looks like a clean sweep for Republicans in those races - 50+3 to 42+2 (totals, with leads following the +). With two "independents", that leaves three races up in the air.
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This thread is comedy gold. 03-lmfao
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