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92 to 37
Greg Ward came in with about 9 minutes left in the 3rd Q vs. UCF. He's been the UH QB for 3.4 games: UCF, @Memphis, Temple, @USF.
UH has outscored those teams 92-37 in those 3.4 games. Average of 27-11 per game.
Compare John O'Korn, who was QB for 3.6 FBS games against UTSA, @BYU, UNLV and UCF . UH was outscored 91-85.
So the offensive output is slightly better (92 vs 85) while the defense has vastly improved (91 allowed to 37).
The reasons for the defensive improvement are simple. UH has turned the ball over 4 times under Ward vs. 10 under O'Korn. In addition, UH has 128 minutes of TOP under Ward vs. 94 under O'Korn, in part because Ward is much more accurate in his passing.
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RE: 92 to 37
Cool.
You're still tied for first like the other five teams.
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11-01-2014 06:40 PM |
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-01-2014 06:40 PM)Kruciff Wrote: Cool.
You're still tied for first like the other five teams.
UCF lost. I enjoyed it very much.
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RE: 92 to 37
A lot of teams can play the what if game, that's your coaches fault
Here's another one: what if the UCF decided Holman was the Starter in April instead of the 3rd quarter of Penn State and he had all those extra reps with the 1s?
I'm sure Temple and Cincy have similar what ifs...
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CougarRed
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-01-2014 06:40 PM)Kruciff Wrote: Cool.
You're still tied for first like the other five teams.
Of the 37 points we've allowed since Ward took over, Memphis scored 24 of them.
In the other 2.4 games, Temple, UCF and USF combined for 13 points. Less than 6 points per game.
I think the odds are pretty good UH pitches a shutout soon against Tulane, Tulsa or SMU, our next 3 games.
(This post was last modified: 11-01-2014 06:49 PM by CougarRed.)
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-01-2014 06:40 PM)CougarRed Wrote: Greg Ward came in with about 9 minutes left in the 3rd Q vs. UCF. He's been the UH QB for 3.4 games: UCF, @Memphis, Temple, @USF.
UH has outscored those teams 92-37 in those 3.4 games. Average of 27-11 per game.
Compare John O'Korn, who was QB for 3.6 FBS games against UTSA, @BYU, UNLV and UCF . UH was outscored 91-85.
So the offensive output is slightly better (92 vs 85) while the defense has vastly improved (91 allowed to 37).
The reasons for the defensive improvement are simple. UH has turned the ball over 4 times under Ward vs. 10 under O'Korn. In addition, UH has 128 minutes of TOP under Ward vs. 94 under O'Korn, in part because Ward is much more accurate in his passing.
Houston went to a very short passing attack. Ward had a grand total of 84 yards passing today and a 4.4 yards per attempt. The longest completion was 16 yards, one of only two passes completed over 10 yards.
Houston doesn't, and will not, expose Ward having him throw a grand total of 19 passes in the latest game.
His longest completion this year is 30 yards. His most passes in one games has been a very modern day modest 33 passes.
Once defenses start taking away the short passes, forcing him to go long lets see what happens. As it is now, defense don't have time to pressure him with the short passing attack.
Is he better then O'Korn? Perhaps, but so have many other backup QBs in both college and pro football been until they got exposed.
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11-01-2014 07:06 PM |
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RE: 92 to 37
For his college career, Ward is 91/129 (70.5%) with 5 TDs vs 1 INT for 979 yards and a passer rating of 145.
(This post was last modified: 11-01-2014 07:23 PM by CougarRed.)
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92 to 37
Houston runs more with Ward and the defense gets a longer rest with the added TOP.
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92 to 37
Don't bring the Ucf game up with ward. We had not prepped for him and he was working with his feet. Pj walker did the same thing last year
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11-01-2014 09:12 PM |
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RE: 92 to 37
We'd probably be undefeated had Ward started the season at QB. Only game that would be in question is BYU.
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11-02-2014 02:04 PM |
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(11-02-2014 02:04 PM)Kronke Wrote: We'd probably be undefeated had Ward started the season at QB. Only game that would be in question is BYU.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself. Same with us and psu
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-01-2014 07:06 PM)sfink16 Wrote: (11-01-2014 06:40 PM)CougarRed Wrote: Greg Ward came in with about 9 minutes left in the 3rd Q vs. UCF. He's been the UH QB for 3.4 games: UCF, @Memphis, Temple, @USF.
UH has outscored those teams 92-37 in those 3.4 games. Average of 27-11 per game.
Compare John O'Korn, who was QB for 3.6 FBS games against UTSA, @BYU, UNLV and UCF . UH was outscored 91-85.
So the offensive output is slightly better (92 vs 85) while the defense has vastly improved (91 allowed to 37).
The reasons for the defensive improvement are simple. UH has turned the ball over 4 times under Ward vs. 10 under O'Korn. In addition, UH has 128 minutes of TOP under Ward vs. 94 under O'Korn, in part because Ward is much more accurate in his passing.
Houston went to a very short passing attack. Ward had a grand total of 84 yards passing today and a 4.4 yards per attempt. The longest completion was 16 yards, one of only two passes completed over 10 yards.
Houston doesn't, and will not, expose Ward having him throw a grand total of 19 passes in the latest game.
His longest completion this year is 30 yards. His most passes in one games has been a very modern day modest 33 passes.
Once defenses start taking away the short passes, forcing him to go long lets see what happens. As it is now, defense don't have time to pressure him with the short passing attack.
Is he better then O'Korn? Perhaps, but so have many other backup QBs in both college and pro football been until they got exposed.
I'm telling you, if they do that, he will run like a deer for first downs. The only thing you can do against him is rush four, leave a spy backer at the line to contain, and play m-o-m in the secondary.
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RE: 92 to 37
If if if if if.
If Ifedi didn't get hurt in our opening game we would've won at UCLA. If Dorceus wouldn't have gotten hurt at Ole Miss and we had Ifedi we could've won that game. If we had both of them AND had a few games of tape already on Ward we would've beaten Houston. That's an 8-0 Memphis team with 2 (legit) top 25 road wins against P5 schools. So Memphis is top 15 and in complete control of the G5 bid...
If if if if if.
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RE: 92 to 37
You Houston posters are the same reason why i quit Coogfans because of your ridiculous butt kissing of Ward. O'Korn is the reigning AAC freshman of the year who lost his only true OC in Meachum who is now calling plays at TCU. Ward is not the reason they are winning. The defense is winning these games and the fact these teams are not all that great. Funny how our receivers could not catch a cold under O'korn but now they are making a lot a great catches on Ward's wobbly passes now that their "boy" is out there throwing passes to them. Next year Ben Hicks will bring back the vertical passing game so I just have to tolerate this high School offense for just a few more games this year.
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-02-2014 10:14 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (11-01-2014 07:06 PM)sfink16 Wrote: (11-01-2014 06:40 PM)CougarRed Wrote: Greg Ward came in with about 9 minutes left in the 3rd Q vs. UCF. He's been the UH QB for 3.4 games: UCF, @Memphis, Temple, @USF.
UH has outscored those teams 92-37 in those 3.4 games. Average of 27-11 per game.
Compare John O'Korn, who was QB for 3.6 FBS games against UTSA, @BYU, UNLV and UCF . UH was outscored 91-85.
So the offensive output is slightly better (92 vs 85) while the defense has vastly improved (91 allowed to 37).
The reasons for the defensive improvement are simple. UH has turned the ball over 4 times under Ward vs. 10 under O'Korn. In addition, UH has 128 minutes of TOP under Ward vs. 94 under O'Korn, in part because Ward is much more accurate in his passing.
Houston went to a very short passing attack. Ward had a grand total of 84 yards passing today and a 4.4 yards per attempt. The longest completion was 16 yards, one of only two passes completed over 10 yards.
Houston doesn't, and will not, expose Ward having him throw a grand total of 19 passes in the latest game.
His longest completion this year is 30 yards. His most passes in one games has been a very modern day modest 33 passes.
Once defenses start taking away the short passes, forcing him to go long lets see what happens. As it is now, defense don't have time to pressure him with the short passing attack.
Is he better then O'Korn? Perhaps, but so have many other backup QBs in both college and pro football been until they got exposed.
I'm telling you, if they do that, he will run like a deer for first downs. The only thing you can do against him is rush four, leave a spy backer at the line to contain, and play m-o-m in the secondary.
Ah, so did RG III run like a deer until injuries have caught up with him. You hit this guy ever time he has the ball in his hand, all 175 pounds of him. Hit him early, hit him late (take a penalty if you have to) but make sure he knows he's going to get him. You never let a Michael Vick want to be get comfortable.
Aggressive, fast defenses are the neutralizer to ANY QB, fast or not. Force him to throw and throw deep. Jam the receivers to influence him even more to throw deep.
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2014 07:56 AM by sfink16.)
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RE: 92 to 37
ECU and UCF lose and suddenly Houston has fans here again.
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RE: 92 to 37
Someone needs to tell him he doesn't need to should all over himself. Sorry couldn't resist.
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11-03-2014 08:44 AM |
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-02-2014 11:41 PM)Bg151 Wrote: You Houston posters are the same reason why i quit Coogfans because of your ridiculous butt kissing of Ward. O'Korn is the reigning AAC freshman of the year who lost his only true OC in Meachum who is now calling plays at TCU. Ward is not the reason they are winning. The defense is winning these games and the fact these teams are not all that great. Funny how our receivers could not catch a cold under O'korn but now they are making a lot a great catches on Ward's wobbly passes now that their "boy" is out there throwing passes to them. Next year Ben Hicks will bring back the vertical passing game so I just have to tolerate this high School offense for just a few more games this year.
Thanks Ms. O'Korn! But your baby is not worthy of carrying Ward's Jock Strap.
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-03-2014 08:40 AM)ECBrad Wrote: ECU and UCF lose and suddenly Houston has fans here again.
UH starts season badly and nothing to play for, low fan presence.
UH suddenly contender for conference championship, higher fan presence.
Astounding coincidence.
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11-03-2014 10:22 AM |
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RE: 92 to 37
(11-02-2014 11:41 PM)Bg151 Wrote: Funny how our receivers could not catch a cold under O'korn but now they are making a lot a great catches on Ward's wobbly passes now that their "boy" is out there throwing passes to them.
I was told through a connection that O'Korn lost the team back in the spring by throwing some of the guys under the bus to the staff.
They didn't want to play for him. See the reports that he didn't complete a pass for an entire practice (might have been two but not sure) and the complete lack of effort from the receivers while he was under center starting this season.
Ward isn't winning these games he just isn't losing them. Our defense is what is winning us these games. Our offense has devolved into run two plays and let Ward figure it out.
That said if O'Korn had better coaching on and off the field I think we would have seen better results from him this year. Would that translate into more wins? Who knows but O'Korn has the physical tools he just lacks the leadership skills and the experience.
Both would/could have been solved with better coaching.
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