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The angry ECU fan
ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.
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(11-01-2014 02:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.

10k fans? There aren't 2,000 fans there.
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Let it go. Take the high road.
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(11-01-2014 02:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.

ECU makes a lot more cash in the American , the American raked in $ 72 million . last year .. ECU also has a better TV deal in the American , almost every American game is on ESPN. . Everything came to fruition , you don't have the facts.

ECU just lost a conference football game , that 's all.
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(11-01-2014 02:36 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  Let it go. Take the high road.


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I guess we'll get our board back now.
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(11-01-2014 02:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.

ECU makes a lot more cash in the American , the American raked in $ 72 million . last year .. ECU also has a better TV deal in the American , almost every American game is on ESPN. . Everything came to fruition , you don't have the facts.

ECU just lost a conference football game , that 's all.
Pretty much.
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(11-01-2014 02:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.

ECU makes a lot more cash in the American , the American raked in $ 72 million . last year .. ECU also has a better TV deal in the American , almost every American game is on ESPN. . Everything came to fruition , you don't have the facts.

ECU just lost a conference football game , that 's all.
Pretty much.

But ECU didn't get much of that $72 mil. And that $72 mil wasn't earned just from TV, ball credits, and bowl revenue so do act like that number is something that will be common for AAC members. Matter of fact, USF, UC, and UCONN got a large portion of that 72 mil.
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(11-01-2014 03:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.

ECU makes a lot more cash in the American , the American raked in $ 72 million . last year .. ECU also has a better TV deal in the American , almost every American game is on ESPN. . Everything came to fruition , you don't have the facts.

ECU just lost a conference football game , that 's all.
Pretty much.

But ECU didn't get much of that $72 mil. And that $72 mil wasn't earned just from TV, ball credits, and bowl revenue so do act like that number is something that will be common for AAC members. Matter of fact, USF, UC, and UCONN got a large portion of that 72 mil.

ECU , Tulsa and Tulane did not get any of the $ 72 million, None of them were in the league.USF , UC and UCONN got a large chunk of all the exit fees. I think they got about $ 6 million each from the ACC , Big 10 and basketball only defections. UCF , Houston , SMU and Memphis split the rest of the exit fees.

The $ 72 million was new money earned last season , That was split among the existing members. The American made $ 30 million in bowls , $ 25 million in NCAA basketball credits and $ 20 millions from ESPN . That is $ 72 million from last season . So I believe you are incorrect . Go to Forbes and check out the numbers.
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(11-01-2014 03:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.

ECU makes a lot more cash in the American , the American raked in $ 72 million . last year .. ECU also has a better TV deal in the American , almost every American game is on ESPN. . Everything came to fruition , you don't have the facts.

ECU just lost a conference football game , that 's all.
Pretty much.

But ECU didn't get much of that $72 mil. And that $72 mil wasn't earned just from TV, ball credits, and bowl revenue so do act like that number is something that will be common for AAC members. Matter of fact, USF, UC, and UCONN got a large portion of that 72 mil.

Yes, that's exactly what it was...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

That 72 million does NOT include the 100 million dollar warchest to be divided 60-40 old-new schools.
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25 mil in ball credits? And that was split evenly amongst AAC members? Knaw, I think not.
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(11-01-2014 03:55 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  25 mil in ball credits? And that was split evenly amongst AAC members? Knaw, I think not.

yep...just ask Forbes.

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(11-01-2014 03:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  ECU got lured by the promise of an enormous TV deal, a better football conference, sold out stadiums, better bowl games etc..

And what happened?...None of it came to fruition. Terry Holland begged CUSA for more regional schools...CUSA added them only to see ECU bolt for false promises. Today reality sets in as they play in front of 10k fans. They now play in a conference that is more wide spread than ever before with hardly any additional TV revenue to make up the difference.

If I were an ECU fan would I be angry?...You bet I would. Sucks for ECU and I think they should have stayed in CUSA. It is what it is.

ECU makes a lot more cash in the American , the American raked in $ 72 million . last year .. ECU also has a better TV deal in the American , almost every American game is on ESPN. . Everything came to fruition , you don't have the facts.

ECU just lost a conference football game , that 's all.
Pretty much.

But ECU didn't get much of that $72 mil. And that $72 mil wasn't earned just from TV, ball credits, and bowl revenue so do act like that number is something that will be common for AAC members. Matter of fact, USF, UC, and UCONN got a large portion of that 72 mil.

Yes, that's exactly what it was...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

That 72 million does NOT include the 100 million dollar warchest to be divided 60-40 old-new schools.

Gotta read the entire thing...

'NCAA basketball payout thanks mostly to the past performances of Connecticut, Louisville and Syracuse"
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(11-01-2014 06:36 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  ECU makes a lot more cash in the American , the American raked in $ 72 million . last year .. ECU also has a better TV deal in the American , almost every American game is on ESPN. . Everything came to fruition , you don't have the facts.

ECU just lost a conference football game , that 's all.
Pretty much.

But ECU didn't get much of that $72 mil. And that $72 mil wasn't earned just from TV, ball credits, and bowl revenue so do act like that number is something that will be common for AAC members. Matter of fact, USF, UC, and UCONN got a large portion of that 72 mil.

Yes, that's exactly what it was...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

That 72 million does NOT include the 100 million dollar warchest to be divided 60-40 old-new schools.

Gotta read the entire thing...

'NCAA basketball payout thanks mostly to the past performances of Connecticut, Louisville and Syracuse"

and? He was saying that money came from our "war chest" (estimated at 100 million) or exit/entrance/settlement fees...it's not.

The AAC is a new conference, so the bolded is a given.
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(11-01-2014 02:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  almost every American game is on ESPN.

Yeah, sure they are, ESPN3 you mean. ESPN3 has less people than the new ASN network that CUSA signed a deal with.
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(11-01-2014 08:07 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  almost every American game is on ESPN.

Yeah, sure they are, ESPN3 you mean. ESPN3 has less people than the new ASN network that CUSA signed a deal with.

Not true.

Not one conference game has ONLY been broadcast on ESPN3...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/conf...conference

I'd much rather play on ESPNU or ESPN-News than ASN or FS2.
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(11-01-2014 07:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 06:36 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 02:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Pretty much.

But ECU didn't get much of that $72 mil. And that $72 mil wasn't earned just from TV, ball credits, and bowl revenue so do act like that number is something that will be common for AAC members. Matter of fact, USF, UC, and UCONN got a large portion of that 72 mil.

Yes, that's exactly what it was...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

That 72 million does NOT include the 100 million dollar warchest to be divided 60-40 old-new schools.

Gotta read the entire thing...

'NCAA basketball payout thanks mostly to the past performances of Connecticut, Louisville and Syracuse"

and? He was saying that money came from our "war chest" (estimated at 100 million) or exit/entrance/settlement fees...it's not.

The AAC is a new conference, so the bolded is a given.

Point: The contract is not likely to be a long-term revenue stream. Coattails are a great ride. But don't convince us.

Then again, you all were stating each team was to earn how many millions per year/per team?
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(11-01-2014 11:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 07:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 06:36 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  But ECU didn't get much of that $72 mil. And that $72 mil wasn't earned just from TV, ball credits, and bowl revenue so do act like that number is something that will be common for AAC members. Matter of fact, USF, UC, and UCONN got a large portion of that 72 mil.

Yes, that's exactly what it was...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

That 72 million does NOT include the 100 million dollar warchest to be divided 60-40 old-new schools.

Gotta read the entire thing...

'NCAA basketball payout thanks mostly to the past performances of Connecticut, Louisville and Syracuse"

and? He was saying that money came from our "war chest" (estimated at 100 million) or exit/entrance/settlement fees...it's not.

The AAC is a new conference, so the bolded is a given.

Point: The contract is not likely to be a long-term revenue stream. Coattails are a great ride. But don't convince us.

Then again, you all were stating each team was to earn how many millions per year/per team?

I'm glad you now see that everything I said was accurate...
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(11-02-2014 08:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 11:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 07:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 06:36 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 03:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Yes, that's exactly what it was...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

That 72 million does NOT include the 100 million dollar warchest to be divided 60-40 old-new schools.

Gotta read the entire thing...

'NCAA basketball payout thanks mostly to the past performances of Connecticut, Louisville and Syracuse"

and? He was saying that money came from our "war chest" (estimated at 100 million) or exit/entrance/settlement fees...it's not.

The AAC is a new conference, so the bolded is a given.

Point: The contract is not likely to be a long-term revenue stream. Coattails are a great ride. But don't convince us.

Then again, you all were stating each team was to earn how many millions per year/per team?

I'm glad you now see that everything I said was accurate...

.....and short-sighted. Then again, everything about the AAC has turned out to be that way. So, no surprise.
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(11-02-2014 11:17 AM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-02-2014 08:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 11:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 07:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(11-01-2014 06:36 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  Gotta read the entire thing...

'NCAA basketball payout thanks mostly to the past performances of Connecticut, Louisville and Syracuse"

and? He was saying that money came from our "war chest" (estimated at 100 million) or exit/entrance/settlement fees...it's not.

The AAC is a new conference, so the bolded is a given.

Point: The contract is not likely to be a long-term revenue stream. Coattails are a great ride. But don't convince us.

Then again, you all were stating each team was to earn how many millions per year/per team?

I'm glad you now see that everything I said was accurate...

.....and short-sighted. Then again, everything about the AAC has turned out to be that way. So, no surprise.
So 4 games a year on cbssports, fs1, and ASN> Every conference game on ESPN network.
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