Is so awesome that after moving "up" to a "better" conference, their fans have to come to the lowly CUSA board to assert their " superiority." How pathetic.

Quote: two questions mattered most to the committee.
•​ Who have you played?
• Who have you beaten?

Quote:The loser at the lower end of the polls is Conference USA, which would have been better off setting its money on fire than hiring a PR firm to pump up Marshall's miserable schedule.

http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/...roundtable

Well, they have played and beat other C-USA teams who have in turn beat the holy crap out of every other G5 league this year, so this schedule nonsense is just that.

This schedule crap is just another way the CFP is trying to isolate all of the other schools not in priveledged leagues. Basically, what they are telling us is there isn't a single team out of that half of college football that's worthy of a top 20 ranking. It's utter BS.

Lastly, everyone wants to use this term of the eye test, but the problem is I doubt anyone on the committee has even watched a single Marshall game this year. If they had they could tell this team is extremely talented regardless of the schedule. There is a double standard.

(10-29-2014 07:32 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Well, they have played and beat other C-USA teams who have in turn beat the holy crap out of every other G5 league this year, so this schedule nonsense is just that.

This schedule crap is just another way the CFP is trying to isolate all of the other schools not in priveledged leagues. Basically, what they are telling us is there isn't a single team out of that half of college football that's worthy of a top 20 ranking. It's utter BS.

Lastly, everyone wants to use this term of the eye test, but the problem is I doubt anyone on the committee has even watched a single Marshall game this year. If they had they could tell this team is extremely talented regardless of the schedule. There is a double standard.

The problem is that no one cares if Marshall is beating CUSA teams who in turn beat Tulsa, SMU, or some other G5 team. It just doesn't matter beyond the CUSA board.

As to your comment about the committee not watching a single Marshall game- you're probably right. Which goes back to my debate a week ago about how value ESPn coverage really is, regardless of what you think of them. Like it or not, the majority of people watching college football turn first and foremost to ESPN to see what's on and what they're talking about.

Lastly, Marshall can't pass an eye test if there's nothing to use for comparison. Beating up on MAC East teams and CUSA teams is good but people can't judge what they're looking at, from a national perspective, unless they see them compete against an SEC, ACC, or Big 12 team.

No doubt this new system is much worse than the BCS...

Guys, take all your posts about the CFP rankings to the other thread, this one is for bitching about ECU posters.

(10-29-2014 07:40 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 07:32 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Well, they have played and beat other C-USA teams who have in turn beat the holy crap out of every other G5 league this year, so this schedule nonsense is just that.

This schedule crap is just another way the CFP is trying to isolate all of the other schools not in priveledged leagues. Basically, what they are telling us is there isn't a single team out of that half of college football that's worthy of a top 20 ranking. It's utter BS.

Lastly, everyone wants to use this term of the eye test, but the problem is I doubt anyone on the committee has even watched a single Marshall game this year. If they had they could tell this team is extremely talented regardless of the schedule. There is a double standard.

The problem is that no one cares if Marshall is beating CUSA teams who in turn beat Tulsa, SMU, or some other G5 team. It just doesn't matter beyond the CUSA board.

As to your comment about the committee not watching a single Marshall game- you're probably right. Which goes back to my debate a week ago about how value ESPn coverage really is, regardless of what you think of them. Like it or not, the majority of people watching college football turn first and foremost to ESPN to see what's on and what they're talking about.

Lastly, Marshall can't pass an eye test if there's nothing to use for comparison. Beating up on MAC East teams and CUSA teams is good but people can't judge what they're looking at, from a national perspective, unless they see them compete against an SEC, ACC, or Big 12 team.

They don't care about ECU either. They ranked them 23rd because they had to; not because they wanted to. Ranking ECU 23rd is as much a slap to the face to all of G5 as is Marshall being left off as well.

(10-29-2014 07:40 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 07:32 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Well, they have played and beat other C-USA teams who have in turn beat the holy crap out of every other G5 league this year, so this schedule nonsense is just that.

This schedule crap is just another way the CFP is trying to isolate all of the other schools not in priveledged leagues. Basically, what they are telling us is there isn't a single team out of that half of college football that's worthy of a top 20 ranking. It's utter BS.

Lastly, everyone wants to use this term of the eye test, but the problem is I doubt anyone on the committee has even watched a single Marshall game this year. If they had they could tell this team is extremely talented regardless of the schedule. There is a double standard.

The problem is that no one cares if Marshall is beating CUSA teams who in turn beat Tulsa, SMU, or some other G5 team. It just doesn't matter beyond the CUSA board.

As to your comment about the committee not watching a single Marshall game- you're probably right. Which goes back to my debate a week ago about how value ESPn coverage really is, regardless of what you think of them. Like it or not, the majority of people watching college football turn first and foremost to ESPN to see what's on and what they're talking about.

Lastly, Marshall can't pass an eye test if there's nothing to use for comparison. Beating up on MAC East teams and CUSA teams is good but people can't judge what they're looking at, from a national perspective, unless they see them compete against an SEC, ACC, or Big 12 team.

Again, it's not that black and white. Our schedules are largely not in our own control. You guys have been fortunate to be able to create some power opponents will play you. If it's been as difficult for Marshall as it has for us then I'm not sure how anyone can make these arguments. It's simply an attempt by them to isolate us. And you're buying it hook, line and sinker.

(10-29-2014 07:40 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 07:32 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Well, they have played and beat other C-USA teams who have in turn beat the holy crap out of every other G5 league this year, so this schedule nonsense is just that.

This schedule crap is just another way the CFP is trying to isolate all of the other schools not in priveledged leagues. Basically, what they are telling us is there isn't a single team out of that half of college football that's worthy of a top 20 ranking. It's utter BS.

Lastly, everyone wants to use this term of the eye test, but the problem is I doubt anyone on the committee has even watched a single Marshall game this year. If they had they could tell this team is extremely talented regardless of the schedule. There is a double standard.

The problem is that no one cares if Marshall is beating CUSA teams who in turn beat Tulsa, SMU, or some other G5 team. It just doesn't matter beyond the CUSA board.

As to your comment about the committee not watching a single Marshall game- you're probably right. Which goes back to my debate a week ago about how value ESPn coverage really is, regardless of what you think of them. Like it or not, the majority of people watching college football turn first and foremost to ESPN to see what's on and what they're talking about.

Lastly, Marshall can't pass an eye test if there's nothing to use for comparison. Beating up on MAC East teams and CUSA teams is good but people can't judge what they're looking at, from a national perspective, unless they see them compete against an SEC, ACC, or Big 12 team.

THIS EXACTLY.... nobody gaf if CUSA beat the dregs of other G5 conferences. The fact is Marshall didn't have a single P5 opponent on the schedule. Yeah, UL screwed you guys but there wasn't another for comparison.

All of these ridiculous polls Marshall fans were using to show how they should be ranked ahead of ECU use math formulas. The formulas take an average of SOS which really makes zero sense when you think about it as every game is it's own entity.

Just yesterday a Marshall fan tried to use Sagarin ratings for example to show how they were better than ECU. Those ratings had MTSU at #91, the highest rank for Marshall's schedule. ECU has 7 opponents rated higher (some MUCH higher) than that. So yeah, we've got 5 really ****** opponents but at the end of the day the other half of our schedule is better than anything Marshall has going for them.

No point in arguing our schedule because it's garbage, but you just can't tell me that looking a Louisville's body of work shows them as worthy of being ahead of us. Losing to Virginia? Best win is probably week one at home against Miami. Other than that they have beaten FIU, Wake, NC State, Murray State and Syracuse. None of those are quality wins outside of Miami and should in no way allow them to be ahead of us with two losses IMHO.

Keep being sheep ECU.

This idealogy that your schedule is measured by P5 schools and can only be strong by x number of P5 schools is self defeating. What you are arguing tears down your own league. It tears down all of our leagues. They will play at least eight/nine games a year against P5 schools in their own leagues. Even if we scheduled every non-conference game against P5 the most we could ever get is four. So, we're never going to be allowed to be considered on a equitable basis if the point of comparison is other P5 schools. You should be fighting this not buying into it.

And any college football fan that still uses Sagarin in an argument needs their fan card checked.

It's like a cockroach infestation. Before you even type the Z in EZU they are already over here replying. I'll start paying more attention and splitting posts out of threads when I get time this evening. The ACK fans have their own board to dirty up without invading ours.

(10-29-2014 08:17 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Keep being sheep ECU.

This idealogy that your schedule is measured by P5 schools and can only be strong by x number of P5 schools is self defeating. What you are arguing tears down your own league. It tears down all of our leagues. They will play at least eight/nine games a year against P5 schools in their own leagues. Even if we scheduled every non-conference game against P5 the most we could ever get is four. So, we're never going to be allowed to be considered on a equitable basis if the point of comparison is other P5 schools. You should be fighting this not buying into it.

And any college football fan that still uses Sagarin in an argument needs their fan card checked.

I'll be blunt here. I don't care about the rest of the G5. I don't really care THAT much about the rest of the AAC. ECU was an Independent for a long time. Being in a football conference is a necessary evil to me. We've been down the road of road whoring, P5 homecoming games, only 5 home games, screwed out of bowls with 9 win seasons, etc. etc. basically building the program from the ground up since the late 1970's.

I love the fact that they're weighting games vs P5's heavily. It's almost like all that hard work is showing that it will pay off in the new system. The fact is that no G5 is ever going to make the playoff unless the stars were to align PERFECTLY in a season. We're all shooting for the Access Bowl and that's all that really matters to me. That's about the best secenario you could hope for. At least it's a guarantee that a G5 gets in, the old BCS didn't have that guarantee.

(10-29-2014 08:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 08:17 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Keep being sheep ECU.

This idealogy that your schedule is measured by P5 schools and can only be strong by x number of P5 schools is self defeating. What you are arguing tears down your own league. It tears down all of our leagues. They will play at least eight/nine games a year against P5 schools in their own leagues. Even if we scheduled every non-conference game against P5 the most we could ever get is four. So, we're never going to be allowed to be considered on a equitable basis if the point of comparison is other P5 schools. You should be fighting this not buying into it.

And any college football fan that still uses Sagarin in an argument needs their fan card checked.

I'll be blunt here. I don't care about the rest of the G5. I don't really care THAT much about the rest of the AAC. ECU was an Independent for a long time. Being in a football conference is a necessary evil to me. We've been down the road of road whoring, P5 homecoming games, only 5 home games, screwed out of bowls with 9 win seasons, etc. etc. basically building the program from the ground up since the late 1970's.

I love the fact that they're weighting games vs P5's heavily. It's almost like all that hard work is showing that it will pay off in the new system. The fact is that no G5 is ever going to make the playoff unless the stars were to align PERFECTLY in a season. We're all shooting for the Access Bowl and that's all that really matters to me. That's about the best secenario you could hope for. At least it's a guarantee that a G5 gets in, the old BCS didn't have that guarantee.

Well that makes you a moron. Playing a game vs. a P5 team isn't intrinsically valuable. The P5 teams ECU played and beat aren't any better than the top 10-15 G5 teams.

(10-29-2014 08:17 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  It's like a cockroach infestation. Before you even type the Z in EZU they are already over here replying. I'll start paying more attention and splitting posts out of threads when I get time this evening. The ACK fans have their own board to dirty up without invading ours.

Goes both ways, several Marshall fans, a FIU fan, UAB, and Charlotte fan live on the AAC board.

(10-29-2014 08:49 AM)Hank Rearden Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 08:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 08:17 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Keep being sheep ECU.

This idealogy that your schedule is measured by P5 schools and can only be strong by x number of P5 schools is self defeating. What you are arguing tears down your own league. It tears down all of our leagues. They will play at least eight/nine games a year against P5 schools in their own leagues. Even if we scheduled every non-conference game against P5 the most we could ever get is four. So, we're never going to be allowed to be considered on a equitable basis if the point of comparison is other P5 schools. You should be fighting this not buying into it.

And any college football fan that still uses Sagarin in an argument needs their fan card checked.

I'll be blunt here. I don't care about the rest of the G5. I don't really care THAT much about the rest of the AAC. ECU was an Independent for a long time. Being in a football conference is a necessary evil to me. We've been down the road of road whoring, P5 homecoming games, only 5 home games, screwed out of bowls with 9 win seasons, etc. etc. basically building the program from the ground up since the late 1970's.

I love the fact that they're weighting games vs P5's heavily. It's almost like all that hard work is showing that it will pay off in the new system. The fact is that no G5 is ever going to make the playoff unless the stars were to align PERFECTLY in a season. We're all shooting for the Access Bowl and that's all that really matters to me. That's about the best secenario you could hope for. At least it's a guarantee that a G5 gets in, the old BCS didn't have that guarantee.

Well that makes you a moron. Playing a game vs. a P5 team isn't intrinsically valuable. The P5 teams ECU played and beat aren't any better than the top 10-15 G5 teams.

Did I say that? The only thing that matters is that they'll be better than the vast majority of G5's. We've got a home/home deal with VTech until 2020 and several more home/home with NCSU and UNC. SO we've got those + SC, BYU and WVU scattered in the mix. MOST of the time any one of those will be better than 75% (at least) of the G5's we could've chosen to schedule OOC.

(10-29-2014 09:09 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 08:17 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  It's like a cockroach infestation. Before you even type the Z in EZU they are already over here replying. I'll start paying more attention and splitting posts out of threads when I get time this evening. The ACK fans have their own board to dirty up without invading ours.

Goes both ways, several Marshall fans, a FIU fan, UAB, and Charlotte fan live on the AAC board.

That's up to those mods to correct if they don't want it.

(10-29-2014 09:27 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 09:09 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 08:17 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  It's like a cockroach infestation. Before you even type the Z in EZU they are already over here replying. I'll start paying more attention and splitting posts out of threads when I get time this evening. The ACK fans have their own board to dirty up without invading ours.

Goes both ways, several Marshall fans, a FIU fan, UAB, and Charlotte fan live on the AAC board.

That's up to those mods to correct if they don't want it.

Sorry but that's really weak. AAC and CUSA people are going on other boards because there is significant interest in what's going on with Marshall and ECU with regards to the Acces Bowl.

To say that you're going to start killing posts by AAC fans, simply because they aren't pushing a message that you as a CUSA fan want to hear, is really sad and not reflective of the purpose of the message board.

I also am sure that if the rankings were reversed, you'd have no issue with AAC fans posting over here.

(10-29-2014 09:27 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 09:09 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 08:17 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  It's like a cockroach infestation. Before you even type the Z in EZU they are already over here replying. I'll start paying more attention and splitting posts out of threads when I get time this evening. The ACK fans have their own board to dirty up without invading ours.

Goes both ways, several Marshall fans, a FIU fan, UAB, and Charlotte fan live on the AAC board.

That's up to those mods to correct if they don't want it.

I agree, but don't act like its just ECU fans coming here. It has been going both ways.

(10-29-2014 05:51 AM)Greg H Wrote:  Is so awesome that after moving "up" to a "better" conference, their fans have to come to the lowly CUSA board to assert their " superiority." How pathetic.

Marshall fans have been all over the AAC board since the beginning of the season dishing it out, so you should have expected AAC fans to give it back.