this article is pure comedy.

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-athletic...rt-go-fbs/

and then you get to the comments where the hack writer gets testy, and it becomes pure gold.

enjoy !

(10-28-2014 01:20 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  this article is pure comedy.

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-athletic...rt-go-fbs/

and then you get to the comments where the hack writer gets testy, and it becomes pure gold.

enjoy !

Yeah, I saw it. He gets a number of things just plain wrong, including the notion that we could go FBS as an independent and the number of non-football schollies we'd have to add.

It isn't even a paper.

http://www.afpbusiness.com/contact-afp-w.../our-team/

It is Chris Graham's personal business.

At the same time, JMU folks do themselves know good when they include personal attacks and miscellaneous stuff that has no bearing on the conversation. Here you have a guy, regardless of whatever his particular business may be, that at least writes about JMU. If you do not agree with his facts or standpoint, convince him with facts and a standpoint. The guy responds to post and is willing to engage in a discussion. Take advantage of that and maybe you can convince him to alter his opinion and have another advocate. But sitting back and calling the guy a hack and worrying about where he went to school only make the entire pro-FBS crowd look petty.

(10-28-2014 02:01 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  At the same time, JMU folks do themselves know good when they include personal attacks and miscellaneous stuff that has no bearing on the conversation. Here you have a guy, regardless of whatever his particular business may be, that at least writes about JMU. If you do not agree with his facts or standpoint, convince him with facts and a standpoint. The guy responds to post and is willing to engage in a discussion. Take advantage of that and maybe you can convince him to alter his opinion and have another advocate. But sitting back and calling the guy a hack and worrying about where he went to school only make the entire pro-FBS crowd look petty.

yea, but at the same time, he didn't do himself any favors.

if he wants to be a journalist, you need to do your research. and his attitude toward JMu was pretty clear when he said the "three fans who actually care". That's pretty condescending and does look down on JMU.

not exactly a way to ingratiate yourself to the intended audience.

This guy is an idiot. Why would he even spend so much time on something that "only 3 people care about"? What a hack.

(10-28-2014 06:16 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  This guy is an idiot. Why would he even spend so much time on something that "only 3 people care about"? What a hack.

+1

(10-28-2014 02:19 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 02:01 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  At the same time, JMU folks do themselves know good when they include personal attacks and miscellaneous stuff that has no bearing on the conversation. Here you have a guy, regardless of whatever his particular business may be, that at least writes about JMU. If you do not agree with his facts or standpoint, convince him with facts and a standpoint. The guy responds to post and is willing to engage in a discussion. Take advantage of that and maybe you can convince him to alter his opinion and have another advocate. But sitting back and calling the guy a hack and worrying about where he went to school only make the entire pro-FBS crowd look petty.

yea, but at the same time, he didn't do himself any favors.

if he wants to be a journalist, you need to do your research. and his attitude toward JMu was pretty clear when he said the "three fans who actually care". That's pretty condescending and does look down on JMU.

not exactly a way to ingratiate yourself to the intended audience.

Agree with this too.

If you're going to write an article about a school in close proximity to your Alma Mater.....lose the byline pic w/ the UVA hat. Comes off as biased.

(10-28-2014 02:19 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 02:01 PM)mistrhanky Wrote:  At the same time, JMU folks do themselves know good when they include personal attacks and miscellaneous stuff that has no bearing on the conversation. Here you have a guy, regardless of whatever his particular business may be, that at least writes about JMU. If you do not agree with his facts or standpoint, convince him with facts and a standpoint. The guy responds to post and is willing to engage in a discussion. Take advantage of that and maybe you can convince him to alter his opinion and have another advocate. But sitting back and calling the guy a hack and worrying about where he went to school only make the entire pro-FBS crowd look petty.

yea, but at the same time, he didn't do himself any favors.

if he wants to be a journalist, you need to do your research. and his attitude toward JMu was pretty clear when he said the "three fans who actually care". That's pretty condescending and does look down on JMU.

not exactly a way to ingratiate yourself to the intended audience.

Schit, he didn't even need to do any real "research". All he needed to do was google JMU/conference and he would have come across ALL the information he could have possibly wanted or needed.

Just a minimum of effort and he could have avoided coming across as a rank amateur.

Honestly knew the article was garbage with a heading like that. No good journalist does that and he is far from one.

holy moly. i went back to read the comments, seeing if anything new, and came across this little gem. how many insults toward JMU can one "hack" writer put in one comment:

Quote:It's obvious from the CarrSports 2013 report that was commissioned by JMU that a move to FBS will lose money. Read the report; the JMU fans who are butthurt over the conclusions in my article reference it often, but are clearly not educated to the bottom line numbers on page 2 that make that clear. JMU brings in $4-$5 million in additional revenues by 2019 making the move to FBS, but it sees expenses increase $6-$6.5 million to get there.

How I could be embarrassed (when one is pointing out that another gets something wrong in an article, make sure that you can at least spell, thanks) coming to that conclusion is up to the diehards in JMUNation who clearly didn't take any business classes during their 6-8 years on campus.

A move to FBS loses money, and forces an increase in student fees, which already costs JMU students $38 million a year (80 percent of the athletics department budget) just for the privilege of being able to say that they go to a school with a D1 athletics program. Another $1-$2 million in student fees is needed to balance the athletics department books to make the move to FBS, again according to the CarrSports report that JMU commissioned.

Other justifications can be made for the move: that a jump to FBS can add prestige, that this added prestige can increase the quality and quantity of student applicants, that this added prestige can also bump up donations. The flip side to these arguments can also be fleshed out, and ultimately all of these can be quantified as well.

In the meantime, please, keep attacking the messenger. The goal seems to be to try to wound me to the point where I run away scared from ever writing about this again. Quite the contrary, we can write a new article every day for the next five years to the point where every time somebody does a Google search about JMU, one of these articles shows up at the top of page 1.

So, keep hurling the insults and invectives. I have a good handle on how to play the SEO game, and I bet I win.

So not only is he a hack, he's a dbag too. If he reacts this poorly to the 3 fans from JMU, he may have some problems if this little man wants to do this when he grows up.

His latest effort.

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-nation-w...kes-sense/

"And then one needs to consider academics – yes, it’s a kooky idea, but the U in JMU does still stand for University. "

What a tool this guy is.

What's awesome is, we're living rent-free...

INSIDE HIS HEAD!!!

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=puts...tedIndex=6

He just wants the clicks. Could easily compare him to Colon Cowherd (sure he would love that!). Just incites the crowd because he wants the page views.

(10-30-2014 02:02 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  His latest effort.

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-nation-w...kes-sense/

No academic URs or W&Ms in the MAC? Miami (Ohio) would disagree, which was just recently ranked as the 30th best academic university in the country. Chalk it up as another mistake by the author.

A couple other thoughts on the article (whose tone is inappropriately snarky)...yes, the cost of moving JMU to FBS level FB will rise, but if the Carr Report projections are correct, the % of the varsity athletic costs borne by students will ultimately decrease, and that's a good thing.

Also a good thing, JMU will begin to play (and possible host) other FBS schools as part of its OOC schedule, and that may well include schools such as Duke, Wake Forest and Vanderbilt. Surely the author hasn't considered the possibility of JMU playing those opponents, putting the "academic" profile questions to rest.

Finally, JMU (if successful at the FBS level and as a member of the MAC) isn't limited to the small bowls. The author appears to have forgotten the MAC champ played in the Orange Bowl just two years ago, and the possibility of playing in other more important post-season venues (especially against in-state rivals) is exactly how a university's front porch is built into something quite special (see VT's transformation).

As I've said many times before on this board (and on the CAAZone) I'm good with JMU varsity athletics at any level because I'd root for the good guys regardless of classification. But this small time online writer with a UVA bias is nothing more than an annoying hack.

We gave the tool validation that someone's reading his garbage, so he writes another gem.

Using his argument no school should ever move up because they'll be just another second hand citizen.

Regardless, he's still can't write an article to save his life. Thank goodness he doesn't make a living doing this.
At least this second hand citizen has scoreboard.

This was predictable. The first article probably had more activity than anything else on the site. At that point, a follow-up was a must.