(10-28-2014 03:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 02:25 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  that article was terrible and comical. but this thread is pretty funny too.

you guys are kidding yourselves. If Benson came out tomorrow and asked the SB members and fans,

"we can pick our 12th member, they all want to join, who do you want?
JMU, Liberty, EKU, Tennessee ____, Jax St, etc, etc, etc"


you all know the overwhelming choice would be JMU.

PS - Missouri State isn't close to ready tomorrow, so they wouldn't be an option.

If the choices were JMU, Liberty, EKU, Tennessee State/Tech, Jacksonville State, the AD at AState would ask if EKU has addressed the issues from their study and if the answer is yes, AState would support EKU.

There is a sour taste in Jonesboro and Little Rock regarding JMU.

From what I've heard the good folks down in Lafayette don't want JMU.

Tennessee tech? Have you been to cookeville or seen their record.

(10-28-2014 08:31 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 03:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 02:25 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  that article was terrible and comical. but this thread is pretty funny too.

you guys are kidding yourselves. If Benson came out tomorrow and asked the SB members and fans,

"we can pick our 12th member, they all want to join, who do you want?
JMU, Liberty, EKU, Tennessee ____, Jax St, etc, etc, etc"


you all know the overwhelming choice would be JMU.

PS - Missouri State isn't close to ready tomorrow, so they wouldn't be an option.

If the choices were JMU, Liberty, EKU, Tennessee State/Tech, Jacksonville State, the AD at AState would ask if EKU has addressed the issues from their study and if the answer is yes, AState would support EKU.

There is a sour taste in Jonesboro and Little Rock regarding JMU.

From what I've heard the good folks down in Lafayette don't want JMU.

Tennessee tech? Have you been to cookeville or seen their record.

I was filling in the blank.


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(10-28-2014 02:54 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 12:58 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 08:40 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  Nah, Im done with JMU. I'd as soon have Liberty than JMU at this point.
I'd rank my preferences
1. Missouri St
2. a Tennesse team (UTC, TN St, ETSU)
3. a South Carolina team (Coastal, Furman, Citadel)
4. Merging with the MVC
5. EKU
6. UMass
7. Jax St
8. Liberty
9. D2 Florida Tech or West Florida
10. D2 Missippi schools (MS College, Delta St)
11. Central Arkansas
12. GMU's club team
13. JMU

1. NMSU in all sports
2. Missouri State
3. EKU
4 UMASS football only

That's funny. However, I have already decided the next Football additions to the Sun Belt if so required are in order of preference: drum roll please

1. Missouri State
2. UT - Arlington
3. Kennesaw State
4. Florida Gulf Coast
5. North Florida
6. Coastal Carolina
7. East Tennessee
8. Eastern Kentucky

After that, the door shuts.

That is a sorry list of choices.

Guy in a Virginia hat talking all the same old Sam Baker bull $%^
And taking a shot a JMU talking about "the three people who care".. WOW. And then he expects them to accept what he is saying?

Stretching the truth on the negatives (traveling to NMSU and Idao.... etc), not having any vision to see added revenues from more visiting fans, TV deals, corporate deals (see Georgia Southern and Coke) etc.

Not seeing the ground crumbling beneath the mountain top of the upper tier of the FCS. AS IF - things are just going to rock on along just like they have always been in the FCS.

Getting facts just plain wrong and then arguing that his point about not going independent was still valid.. CRAP. All the negatives he spends time on pointing out the nightmare of trying to go that route is a tactic to spin a negative light from the get go on the whole idea of transitioning.. THAT IS THE POINT!

Imagine how much Virginia really would SUCK MORE if they had another in state FBS to contend with!

And if the playoff is expanded to 8, I believe then that there IS going to be access at that point for a G5 to be included - Even if it is only one. Or the entire G5 World will have a melt down. He just expects everyone to accept his word as some authority from being a sports writer that such an expansion wouldn't include any G5. Might this simply be his own stupid blind lack of comprehension of anything outside the P5?

I can tell you that so far.. FBS has brought wonders to Georgia Southern, excitement like we haven't seen in many many years.

JMU needs to move while they still have a glimmer of hope.
There will be a point when it is too late. When the door slams shut, by the time it might crack open again - their level of being able to compete may have falling so far that nobody would consider inviting them.

(10-28-2014 11:28 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  Guy in a Virginia hat talking all the same old Sam Baker bull $%^
And taking a shot a JMU talking about "the three people who care".. WOW. And then he expects them to accept what he is saying?

Stretching the truth on the negatives (traveling to NMSU and Idao.... etc), not having any vision to see added revenues from more visiting fans, TV deals, corporate deals (see Georgia Southern and Coke) etc.

Not seeing the ground crumbling beneath the mountain top of the upper tier of the FCS. AS IF - things are just going to rock on along just like they have always been in the FCS.

Getting facts just plain wrong and then arguing that his point about not going independent was still valid.. CRAP. All the negatives he spends time on pointing out the nightmare of trying to go that route is a tactic to spin a negative light from the get go on the whole idea of transitioning.. THAT IS THE POINT!

Imagine how much Virginia really would SUCK MORE if they had another in state FBS to contend with!

And if the playoff is expanded to 8, I believe then that there IS going to be access at that point for a G5 to be included - Even if it is only one. Or the entire G5 World will have a melt down. He just expects everyone to accept his word as some authority from being a sports writer that such an expansion wouldn't include any G5. Might this simply be his own stupid blind lack of comprehension of anything outside the P5?

I can tell you that so far.. FBS has brought wonders to Georgia Southern, excitement like we haven't seen in many many years.

JMU needs to move while they still have a glimmer of hope.
There will be a point when it is too late. When the door slams shut, by the time it might crack open again - their level of being able to compete may have falling so far that nobody would consider inviting them.

Yea, the guy who wrote that is a UVa alum. He doesn't write for a paper and the Augusta Free Press is his personal business. In other words, it was a BLOG post, and a poor effort at that.

By writing that craptastic article, he probably upped his site hits 2000%. I'm guessing that was his intention all along.

Anyway, I stick to what I have bee saying for years now. The SBC with App St and RGSU would be excellent home for JMU. I have hammered this point home to our Admin, but as RGSU can relate, when you have an admin that has no ambition, you are Effed. JMU's administration is FILLED with people who have been there for decades. Our NEW president didn't make ANY changes in the leadership of the University in his first 3 years, which is unheard of in higher ed. It's an old boys club, in my opinion, and it is suffocating our school. We have our very own Sam Baker, except his name is Charlie King (ASU alum, ironically) and he is the VP of Finance.

(10-28-2014 06:12 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 03:13 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 08:53 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If JMU were to do a tour of SBC schools they could easily get the votes. But they will need to extend an olive branch. I know their leadership is terrible but the majority of there fans appear to want FBS and if that means SBC they are ready.

Best case is JMU wakes up, Mo. St. makes a commitment and they replace Idaho a couple years from now. Worst case we don't add anyone. Pretty good either way.

It is my understanding they would have to do some big time fence mending. Numerous SB Presidents were not at all happy with the JMU administration's comments about the Sunbelt.

It's happened before. I'm sure we had to do the same.

Not according to THE GUY I spoke to.

(10-28-2014 10:45 AM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  The biggest tradition at JMU is throwing purple streamers in the air after every score. That alone should keep them in the FCS. Next they'll be showing "Glee" reruns on their video board.

Now this post made me laugh!

(10-28-2014 02:25 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  that article was terrible and comical. but this thread is pretty funny too.

you guys are kidding yourselves. If Benson came out tomorrow and asked the SB members and fans,

"we can pick our 12th member, they all want to join, who do you want?
JMU, Liberty, EKU, Tennessee ____, Jax St, etc, etc, etc"


you all know the overwhelming choice would be JMU.

PS - Missouri State isn't close to ready tomorrow, so they wouldn't be an option.

This post can be found in the Webster Dictionary as an example for the word narcissism.

Some of yalls lists are really out there.

(10-29-2014 09:25 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Some of yalls lists are really out there.

I think those lists are more in reaction to the outlandish statements some of the FCS crowd state here and this blog article.

While we are at it, hey JMU, BYE BYE

(10-29-2014 08:51 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 06:12 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 03:13 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 08:53 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If JMU were to do a tour of SBC schools they could easily get the votes. But they will need to extend an olive branch. I know their leadership is terrible but the majority of there fans appear to want FBS and if that means SBC they are ready.

Best case is JMU wakes up, Mo. St. makes a commitment and they replace Idaho a couple years from now. Worst case we don't add anyone. Pretty good either way.

It is my understanding they would have to do some big time fence mending. Numerous SB Presidents were not at all happy with the JMU administration's comments about the Sunbelt.

It's happened before. I'm sure we had to do the same.

Not according to THE GUY I spoke to.

That's good to know. I was concerned we had burned a bridge a few years ago. Obviously that wasn't the case, but I figured we had to at least do some repair work.

(10-28-2014 03:13 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 08:53 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If JMU were to do a tour of SBC schools they could easily get the votes. But they will need to extend an olive branch. I know their leadership is terrible but the majority of there fans appear to want FBS and if that means SBC they are ready.

Best case is JMU wakes up, Mo. St. makes a commitment and they replace Idaho a couple years from now. Worst case we don't add anyone. Pretty good either way.

It is my understanding they would have to do some big time fence mending. Numerous SB Presidents were not at all happy with the JMU administration's comments about the Sunbelt.

Thank goodness we had a new AD. Our AD suck his foot in his mouth about the Belt as well.

(10-29-2014 08:11 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 03:13 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 08:53 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If JMU were to do a tour of SBC schools they could easily get the votes. But they will need to extend an olive branch. I know their leadership is terrible but the majority of there fans appear to want FBS and if that means SBC they are ready.

Best case is JMU wakes up, Mo. St. makes a commitment and they replace Idaho a couple years from now. Worst case we don't add anyone. Pretty good either way.

It is my understanding they would have to do some big time fence mending. Numerous SB Presidents were not at all happy with the JMU administration's comments about the Sunbelt.

Thank goodness we had a new AD. Our AD suck his foot in his mouth about the Belt as well.

Stuff like that isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be. It's the one-on-one interactions that matter.

When we had to look at FCS schools in 2004 the league only pursued one FCS, WKU because they were already in for everything else and there was some tension. The league reached out to a number of schools of to see whether they were interested in FBS but that was no assurance of an invite (FAMU).

JMU situation by all accounts is different in that JMU at first wasn't sure what they wanted to do and then minced no words at the high level that they wanted FBS but not if it meant joining the inferior Sun Belt programs.

No one making decisions gives a rip what a bunch of fans say and aren't overly worried about what a coach says, but they take pretty seriously what top leadership says.

And his follow-up effort. Dumb as well

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-nation-w...kes-sense/

(10-29-2014 09:17 AM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(10-28-2014 02:25 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  that article was terrible and comical. but this thread is pretty funny too.

you guys are kidding yourselves. If Benson came out tomorrow and asked the SB members and fans,

"we can pick our 12th member, they all want to join, who do you want?
JMU, Liberty, EKU, Tennessee ____, Jax St, etc, etc, etc"


you all know the overwhelming choice would be JMU.

PS - Missouri State isn't close to ready tomorrow, so they wouldn't be an option.

This post can be found in the Webster Dictionary as an example for the word narcissism.

the least cheesey of that group..

(10-30-2014 02:47 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  And his follow-up effort. Dumb as well

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-nation-w...kes-sense/

I feel for you.

(10-28-2014 02:28 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 04:46 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-athletic...rt-go-fbs/

This article sounds like most of the FCS zealotry garbage I read on GSUfans and AGS for nearly a decade. Just about all of it BS.

Yep...my sentiment exactly.

(10-28-2014 06:27 PM)Wonmoretime Wrote:  Sam Baker blogs for JMU now?

LOL

(10-28-2014 11:28 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  Guy in a Virginia hat talking all the same old Sam Baker bull $%^
And taking a shot a JMU talking about "the three people who care".. WOW. And then he expects them to accept what he is saying?

Stretching the truth on the negatives (traveling to NMSU and Idao.... etc), not having any vision to see added revenues from more visiting fans, TV deals, corporate deals (see Georgia Southern and Coke) etc.

Not seeing the ground crumbling beneath the mountain top of the upper tier of the FCS. AS IF - things are just going to rock on along just like they have always been in the FCS.

Getting facts just plain wrong and then arguing that his point about not going independent was still valid.. CRAP. All the negatives he spends time on pointing out the nightmare of trying to go that route is a tactic to spin a negative light from the get go on the whole idea of transitioning.. THAT IS THE POINT!

Imagine how much Virginia really would SUCK MORE if they had another in state FBS to contend with!

And if the playoff is expanded to 8, I believe then that there IS going to be access at that point for a G5 to be included - Even if it is only one. Or the entire G5 World will have a melt down. He just expects everyone to accept his word as some authority from being a sports writer that such an expansion wouldn't include any G5. Might this simply be his own stupid blind lack of comprehension of anything outside the P5?

I can tell you that so far.. FBS has brought wonders to Georgia Southern, excitement like we haven't seen in many many years.

JMU needs to move while they still have a glimmer of hope.
There will be a point when it is too late. When the door slams shut, by the time it might crack open again - their level of being able to compete may have falling so far that nobody would consider inviting them.

Sounds like the article was written that Lehigh fan on AGS.

I wonder how much cost difference there would really be for JMU if they played a SBC schedule compared to their current travel cost. Not that they will make the FCS playoffs, but if they did, they could get shipped to Montana or Eastern Washington or somewhere for a playoff game. I wonder how much $$ FCS teams lose by attending playoff games.

(10-31-2014 10:22 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  I wonder how much cost difference there would really be for JMU if they played a SBC schedule compared to their current travel cost. Not that they will make the FCS playoffs, but if they did, they could get shipped to Montana or Eastern Washington or somewhere for a playoff game. I wonder how much $$ FCS teams lose by attending playoff games.

FCS Tournament game travel is provided by the NCAA, just like the bball tournament.

Also why the FCS playoffs does the bracket by region after seeding. JMU has been screwed twice by that.

(10-31-2014 10:35 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-31-2014 10:22 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  I wonder how much cost difference there would really be for JMU if they played a SBC schedule compared to their current travel cost. Not that they will make the FCS playoffs, but if they did, they could get shipped to Montana or Eastern Washington or somewhere for a playoff game. I wonder how much $$ FCS teams lose by attending playoff games.

FCS Tournament game travel is provided by the NCAA, just like the bball tournament.

Also why the FCS playoffs does the bracket by region after seeding. JMU has been screwed twice by that.

Well that makes sense. I guess some of the schools might have to opt out if they were required to pay the cost associated with long trips.

I still think JMU would be a good Sun Belt fit. I don't know all the reasons behind them not being invited, not accepting, or whatever but I figure it could happen in the future if both sides see a benefit.

If JMU believes their university is far too superior to be associated with SBC members then so be it. I think that's one of those legend in your own mind sort of issues. If they are academically superior, I hardly see how an athletic conference affiliation would tarnish that grand image.

In the end, its really JMU's loss. We don't need them to make our conference FBS. We already have 3/4 bowl tie-ins, TV contracts and BCS revenue. They are FCS members in football and if they don't move up then they will get left behind.