I know this will draw comments from ECU posters and this comment was in fact made by an ECU poster. But I would like to know do Marshall posters here agree with this ECU poster comments? I don't visit the main Marshall messageboard so I don't know if Herd posters have made comments that would suggest jealousy towards ECU in regards to getting an AAC invite over Marshall.

To be honest, I didn't even know Marshall was in the conversation to get an invite to the AAC. Nevertheless, this is the comment that was made on the "other board". The ECU poster who said it is entitled to his or her opinion. But is there anomisity in Herd land over ECU getting an AAC invite and Marshall not getting one?

baruna falls Wrote:Marshall fans feel left out of not getting an invite to the AAC. I can't blame them, because if ECU had been left out and Marshall had been invited, I would be upset and angry as well. Their jealousy however, has turned into hostility towards ECU and it fan base. Who knows, maybe I would be hostile as well. I hope I wouldn't but you never know.

Marshall needs to get the athletic budget over 30 million, and get basketball rolling...JMHO

Quite frankly, a lot of ECU posters on this site and others have misinformed, if not ignorant, opinions on what Marshall does or why things happen to Marshall (ie- "WVU stopped playing Marshall because of NQs" or "All of their good players are NQ" or "the HELP program is a sham to benefit football"). They're clueless and highly prone to blow things out of proportion to inflate their own opinion about themselves.

Would being in the AAC be nice? Sure, it'd be cool to get back to playing UCF and ECU, and some NE games would be neat. However, neither I, nor any Herd fans I know are particularly bent out of shape for not moving. In a few seasons, the quality of play across the G5 should even out as perception solidifies. And if not, it'll be cool to have another MAC run.

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  I know this will draw comments from ECU posters and this comment was in fact made by an ECU poster. But I would like to know do Marshall posters here agree with this ECU poster comments? I don't visit the main Marshall messageboard so I don't know if Herd posters have made comments that would suggest jealousy towards ECU in regards to getting an AAC invite over Marshall.

To be honest, I didn't even know Marshall was in the conversation to get an invite to the AAC. Nevertheless, this is comment that was made on the "other board". And I'm not going to call out the ECU poster who said it because he or she is entitled to his or her opinion. But is there anomisity in Herd land over ECU getting an AAC invite and Marshall not getting one?

Quote:Marshall fans feel left out of not getting an invite to the AAC. I can't blame them, because if ECU had been left out and Marshall had been invited, I would be upset and angry as well. Their jealousy however, has turned into hostility towards ECU and it fan base. Who knows, maybe I would be hostile as well. I hope I wouldn't but you never know.

I don't get the time to post as much as I should, but I take time occasionally to read everyone's viewpoints. With that being said, I understand why the departing schools did what they did. That's fine. I can only honestly speak for myself. But this is at least how I feel.

I'm not hurt by being "left behind." In fact suggesting so would be a slam to our current conference. Obviously, I would like the exposure, but let's be real. ECU paid $100 for a $50 pair of jeans.

I fully respect ECU, and the departing schools did what they had to do to gain that exposure.

Where I and i'm sure many Marshall fans (UAB, Southern Miss, Rice and UTEP as well for that matter having played in the old CUSA) take offense is to the holier than thou stance many on that side have decided to take.

Quite literally, it's as if ECU fans were replaced by UCF fans. Literally.

I ask to have this thread moved to the Smack Board because I know eventually level-headed conversation will turn sour.

"but let's be real. ECU paid $100 for a $50 pair of jeans."

So glad we didn't have to pay CUSA anything to leave...after 18 years, we should't owe anything.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/tig...erence-usa

Quote:So here's good news for Memphis' pocketbook as it pertains to what it actually bought: C-USA and the U of M reached a settlement this summer by which the school's total cost of separation from its old league is a tidy and manageable figure: $0.

The Tigers' relatively recent NCAA tournament success was a big reason why. The U of M was able to apply NCAA basketball tournament credits, the amounts the NCAA pays conferences for their members' performance in the event, to their bill.

I have zero hostility toward ECU....and if the AB wasn't on the line, I'd be rooting for them every week. But some...SOME... (Still Jonesing) are of the opinion that the AAC clearly should be a P5 conference. I think it's been illustrated this year that it should not be (However, I think some TEAMS could easily compete in the ACC)...

I don't feel that way at all. I argued aggressively against an invite if it were presented. I like the AA and several schools in the conference would be great rivals for us but in the long haul, C-USA under the new plan is an excellent fit for us.

1. For Marshall fans, our closest game was ECU. We now have ODU, UNCC, WKU and MT as close (or much closer). FIU and FAU are also inexpensive, easy flights for our fans. As a fan, I love it.

2. We love playing ECU and would like to play UC but I believe UC will eventually get poached. Temple and Memphis would have been great in basketball but Memphis is still 7+ hours away.

3. Most Herd fans could not care less about Tulsa, Tulane or any school in Texas.

4. UCF and USF would have been nice and preferred over F_U but not at the cost to make the move.

5. Marshall is a legit football school but budget wise, we have a ways to go with our Olympic sports. Marshall can compete top to bottom in football, though, and would regularly challenge every team in the AA imo. Sadly, our worst decade off football in 30 years was in C-USA but under Doc Holliday, things have started to come back together.

6. Most of the new schools in C-USA are aggressive up and comers. In five years, I believe we'll be on equal footing with the AA. I admit top to bottom right now that the AA is a marginally better conference in football and significantly better in basketball. That is not a slight towards AA schools by any means. I believe in the end it will be the AA, C-USA and MWC battling for "G5" supremacy. FWIW, I hate the term G5.

7. Most importantly, the cost was just plain silly. These schools are paying dumb money that's still second fiddle and not all that much better than C-USA.

(10-27-2014 01:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  "but let's be real. ECU paid $100 for a $50 pair of jeans."

So glad we didn't have to pay CUSA anything to leave...after 18 years, we should't owe anything.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/tig...erence-usa

Memphis in Basketball...UCF, Houston, Tulsa and ECU in Football fully deserved the transition. I'm still frankly missing the match-ups.

I'm still not sold that SMU or Tulane deserved anything, and have gained the move solely on location.

Doesn't change the fact that the final AAC product is truly any better in football terms to merit the prices paid. Ultimately, it might, but for many of those who made the transition, doesn't change the fact that the price to move cost much more than the real estate ultimately acquired.

The Tulane pick is still mind boggling.

I attempted to watch Boise/BYU and USF/Cincinnati the other night. The pregame show leading up to the individual games was absolutely nauseating. There was very, very little talk about the actual participants of the teams playing and 98% of the conversation was on the playoffs and P-5 programs. After 5 mins I couldn't take it anymore.

ESPN does the AAC a great disservice because the conference deserves more than simply showing a conference game with talk focus on the P5. So as of now, I don't know why anyone in the G-5 would be jealous of each other unless you're the Sun Belt.

(10-27-2014 01:42 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  The Tulane pick is still mind boggling.

(10-27-2014 01:17 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  5. Marshall is a legit football school but budget wise, we have a ways to go with our Olympic sports. Marshall can compete top to bottom in football, though, and would regularly challenge every team in the AA imo. Sadly, our worst decade off football in 30 years was in C-USA but under Doc Holliday, things have started to come back together.

Actually we have some decent Olympic sports. Our volleyball is decent most years under Jacobs and we have had some really good years, Tennis under Mercer has thrived. Mercer over the summer pulled in Marshall's 1st ever 5 star recruit in Maddie Silver. There was no ranking services when Randy Moss come to Marshall, if there was he would have been the #1 recruit in the nation. Both Volleyball and Tennis have beat WVU 13 of the last 14 years.

Maddie Silver's Recruiting Page

Also our softball is in great hands with Shonda Stanton. Marshall has been to the CUSA championship game the last 3 years. Sorry UAB we have to keep beating you to get there. The Dot has started some renovations just today and after this season coming up there will be a new fence going up.

Hopefully both soccer programs start to become more successful with the new soccer stadium. And the track team finally has a place to run. Only thing left is a baseball stadium and Ive head its coming soon.

Do I feel left behind, not a bit. You can come look at my cookies on my computer, I never venture over to the AACk board or any of their message boards.

(10-27-2014 01:42 PM)herdftblfan1 Wrote:  The Tulane pick is still mind boggling.

Yes it is.

I have no hostility about what conference we are in or where we are, etc. The only hostility comes from those that have gone being allowed to come and interject into every single thread on OUR board. It is not their home board anymore. It is frankly tiring that they are allowed to come say whatever they please on any subject, invited or not. I think a little more moderation would have gone a long way to keep the peace. It's to the point where even if they are mentioned in passing or not at all they are still jabbing at everyone on the board.

If they would just let go and quit hanging around here the transition would be complete and we could go on about our merry way. We see ECU fans and a few of the others as the obsessed fans. I don't go post on their boards. I don't care about their thoughts on anything. We are not going to be able to move on as long as they are still infiltrating every discussion here. And if CUSA fans are going there to do the same thing then they should be stopped as well.

I don't buy the argument that "we were in CUSA so we can come and go as we please." Wrong! Your schools gave up that right for you and like it or not this isn't your home anymore. If you're in such a better place now, why would you want to come back? It's fun to visit the old neighborhood once in a while, but staying there means you are either unhappy with your new place or you have a serious separation anxiety.

If I'm hostile on the boards it is to "encourage" them to get out of our face and let us move on. Not because I want to be them. That is ridiculous. If I want to know how team X fans are dealing with the loss to team Y, I go read the game thread. I am NOT rude enough to interject my thoughts on their conference board. I don't see how that can be translated to wishing I was a fan of the school in the AAC. I find their posturing to be more of a joke, especially given results of this year.

I'd just like to wash my hands of the whole realignment thing and move on. Realignment totally wiped out our schedule for this year. It has done irreparable damage to our perception in a year we could have done it all. I'm happy where we are. I like this conference and I will be happy to be a fan here forever if that is our destiny. But let us be us for a while. I'd like the chance to get to know the the new fans without stumbling over pages of arguements that wouldn't be there if AAC fans were on the AAC board. Stay the **** off our boards and mind your own business. Your opinions are not needed nor asked for, no matter what subject we broach. If you read something you find intriguing, start a thread on your board and ask for opinions there. Marshall has been here 10 years now. We've earned the right to stake our claim and protect it. Those that left forfeited any claim to CUSA. It's time to show the stragglers the door.

"I don't buy the argument that "we were in CUSA so we can come and go as we please." Wrong!"

Uh, that's EXACTLY how it is...as long as you follow the AUP, you can post where you like.

(10-27-2014 04:56 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  "I don't buy the argument that "we were in CUSA so we can come and go as we please." Wrong!"

Uh, that's EXACTLY how it is...as long as you follow the AUP, you can post where you like.

No matter if you're accused of trolling or not right? AUP isn't fullproof when it comes to inciting posters. If I went to the AAC Board and started a thread that said "CUSA is undefeated vs the AAC this season", it would be considered trolling and many AAC posters would request to have me banned even though no AUP rules were broken.

Why do some of you former members like to come to the CUSA board? A few of you like to come and chat intelligently about football. Most of you just like to be disrespectful.

(10-27-2014 05:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 04:56 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  "I don't buy the argument that "we were in CUSA so we can come and go as we please." Wrong!"

Uh, that's EXACTLY how it is...as long as you follow the AUP, you can post where you like.

No matter if you're accused of trolling or not right?

I leave that to the MODS...( Trolling is in the AUP)

(10-27-2014 05:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 05:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 04:56 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  "I don't buy the argument that "we were in CUSA so we can come and go as we please." Wrong!"

Uh, that's EXACTLY how it is...as long as you follow the AUP, you can post where you like.

No matter if you're accused of trolling or not right?

I leave that to the MODS...( Trolling is in the AUP)

Exactly.

(10-27-2014 05:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 05:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 04:56 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  "I don't buy the argument that "we were in CUSA so we can come and go as we please." Wrong!"

Uh, that's EXACTLY how it is...as long as you follow the AUP, you can post where you like.

No matter if you're accused of trolling or not right?

I leave that to the MODS...( Trolling is in the AUP)

Which is why I also said more moderation at the beginning of this fiasco would have headed off a lot of the problem. But if trolling is in the AUP you are not following it when you troll, whether or not it is enforced. And your statement was "as long as you follow the AUP..." So, these AAC posters will continue to push the limits till they are called out and removed. They wouldn't consider policing themselves just for common courtesy. Funniest part? As soon as someone gets removed, they will be the first ones crying that the mods here are too sensitive, they didn't do anything wrong, etc etc.

Just the fact that one of our posters had to preemptively move a thread to the smack board, that was directed to the fanbase of a CUSA school, says volumes about the infestation here. Bama should not have had to do that to a thread marked "Marshall fans" in the subject. And all you guys can think to do is look for loopholes to be ********.