(10-27-2014 12:57 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 11:23 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Well it went all the way to post 19 before we got a troll post. You people are slipping.

.....says the undisputed king of trolling.

It's sad that someone has to hate on a fine young man that's a graduate of the university. But that seems to be par for the course with you and your ilk. Have a nice day sir.

(10-27-2014 10:21 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 10:20 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 10:14 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  @JohnMartin929: How about that RT @HoopsNBAdotcom: Tarik Black Likely Makes Houston Rockets Roster http://t.co/5B4E71ZHK7 …

"skills similar to Dorsey"? John Martin-stick to something you are knowledgeable of.

Haters gonna hate doe. That article was not written by Martin but continue with your agenda it's entertaining

Not a Martin article. Point remains, I can't think of many bigs that are as different as Joey (energy, defense, glass eater, enforcer, limited offensive player) and Black (weak on boards, poor hands, gifted scorer in the post).

Ta-Joey DorsBlack would be a first ballot hall of fame NBA player. It's a great thing to have two Tigers playing for Houston.

(10-27-2014 10:28 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Could be one of those odd situations were Tarik turns out the be the same guy he was in college but at the next level.

A strong, talented backup with some offensive game. Average rebounded with questionable defensive ability.

Yep. A role player who contributes. And collects a big check. Good for him.

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

Sometimes the coach and player don't gel. No shame on either. It was time for Tarik to move on and we did very well with our bigs last year (and will play through them a ton this year).

A good coach and a good player don't always end up on the same page. Happens. Glad the story is on such a high note for Tarik!

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

Josh never embraced the 2 post lineup until last year with Austin and Shaq. I'm hoping a year in the American has changed his philosophy.

(10-27-2014 12:16 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:15 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:11 PM)TIGER7880 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 11:34 AM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  it was always an automatic two points when we could actually feed him the ball.

Tarik Black?

Yup.

Yeah he shot like nearly 70% from the field that one year


Edit 68.9 % his sophomore year

One year here he led the nation in shots taken inside of 3 feet-all but 2 of his shots were inside 3 feet for a whole season.

My biggest issue with Tarik was his hands. He just missed a lot of passes he shoulda caught. Also could be why he lost a lot of rebounds. Kevin McHale will make him better at his post play. He may have been one of the top 5 post players of all time.

I'm shocked any of our kids made it this far. Good for him.

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

Agree about his hands being the non connected part of the picture. His chest was a bit too thrust out, too, at times---at least for the purpose of integrated movement. But that seems to have improved. I'm happy for Tarik. He endured quite a bit of fan bashing from us and them.

Oh yea.... so much for Tarik and Football.

(10-27-2014 12:48 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 10:12 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen 29m29 minutes ago
With Rockets final cuts, Tarik Black went from a training camp invitee with a non-guaranteed contract to making team, likely as b/up center.

WHO ?

Page 4. You're slipping.

LOL

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

How do you utilize a guy who in any big game gets 2 fouls in first 45 seconds-happened time and time again? mediocre in other facets except catch and dunk. really no go to post move.

(10-27-2014 12:48 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 10:12 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen 29m29 minutes ago
With Rockets final cuts, Tarik Black went from a training camp invitee with a non-guaranteed contract to making team, likely as b/up center.

WHO ?

Page 4. You're slipping.

Page 4? Nickel you need to up that posts per page option. (50 posts per page).

(10-27-2014 02:02 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

How do you utilize a guy who in any big game gets 2 fouls in first 45 seconds-happened time and time again? mediocre in other facets except catch and dunk. really no go to post move.

Shaq was the same way. When your guards constantly get best off the dribble the bigs get into foul trouble. I'm glad that allegedly defense is being emphasized this season.

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

I Agree with that too. But that's when the coach kicks some azz. Josh didn't do that. I thought he pandered to the guards, specifically Joe. That's another subject...
I do think Josh will change for the better this year though.

(10-27-2014 02:28 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

I Agree with that too. But that's when the coach kicks some azz. Josh didn't do that. I thought he pandered to the guards, specifically Joe. That's another subject...
I do think Josh will change for the better this year though.

Everyone is blaming our guards for all deficiencies now they are gone. Did they make Black eat until he was FAT too?

(10-27-2014 02:02 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

How do you utilize a guy who in any big game gets 2 fouls in first 45 seconds-happened time and time again? mediocre in other facets except catch and dunk. really no go to post move.

You find a way to keep him in the game or you get productive minutes out of him when you can.

As for a "go-to-post move", the guy scored 70% of his shots mostly by backing down his defender and then dunking on him. What other sort of "post moves" would you like to see? The f-ing Dream Hook?

(10-27-2014 02:32 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 02:28 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

I Agree with that too. But that's when the coach kicks some azz. Josh didn't do that. I thought he pandered to the guards, specifically Joe. That's another subject...
I do think Josh will change for the better this year though.

Everyone is blaming our guards for all deficiencies now they are gone. Did they make Black eat until he was FAT too?

So when did Tarik have a weight problem? WTF are you talking about?

(10-27-2014 02:28 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

I Agree with that too. But that's when the coach kicks some azz. Josh didn't do that. I thought he pandered to the guards, specifically Joe. That's another subject...
I do think Josh will change for the better this year though.

It wasn't just Joe he pandered to

(10-27-2014 02:39 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 02:02 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 01:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 12:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  I thought Josh did a lousy job utilizing TB. Especially when Shaq got here.
Absolutely, Black has his faults and limitations but job misused him. I've said that since he was a sophomore.

I'd agree with that.

I thought Black was not utilized but I thought that had more to do with our guards than Josh...But Black wouldn't have played much if I had other options either...Dude wouldn't rebound or defend to save his life...Apparently he is fixing that issue.

How do you utilize a guy who in any big game gets 2 fouls in first 45 seconds-happened time and time again? mediocre in other facets except catch and dunk. really no go to post move.

You find a way to keep him in the game or you get productive minutes out of him when you can.

As for a "go-to-post move", the guy scored 70% of his shots mostly by backing down his defender and then dunking on him. What other sort of "post moves" would you like to see? The f-ing Dream Hook?

How many charges did he pick up trying to back his guy in? A lot. How about a drop step or spin move that 80 of decent college big men use. Or even a head or ball fake? When you are out of shape and your body fat is over 20% easy to reach and grab on D. Foul trouble=less minutes played. FACTS.