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Don't Duke students do that outside Cameron Indoor Stadium? JMU students are too cool for something like this. Without alcohol you wouldn't find any students who would want to do it.

I thought the article was going to about the Kirk Cameron Crawl....where Liberty students hop from coffee shop to coffee shop in Lynchburg and read different bible verses at each shop.

LOL! That is funny, niner! And true. If that was tried at JMU the SS, I mean the cops, would tear gas and rubber bullet the campers into submission, before beating them and charging them each with multiple felonies.

Laugh if you will, but Liberty is a sleeping giant. They are flush with cash, are building one heck of a program there and are likely to go FBS before we do, because they lack a hang up about the Sun Belt.


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(10-26-2014 08:28 PM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote:  Laugh if you will, but Liberty is a sleeping giant. They are flush with cash, are building one heck of a program there and are likely to go FBS before we do, because they lack a hang up about the Sun Belt.

This would/will be a full tilt march on the quad melt down event.

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First time I have seen "cool" and "Liberty" in the same sentence.

It's pretty lame that the only jokes we, and other fan bases, throw at Liberty are about their faith and politics. Meanwhile, like someone already stated, they have great athletic facilities, better student support than JMU, an overall fan base that continues to show up against much worse competition than we get at JMU, tons of money, and most of all, a strategic plan and vision that our fans can only dream of having. Kudos to Liberty for all they have accomplished in a very short amount of time.

(10-26-2014 08:31 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  This would/will be a full tilt march on the quad melt down event.

Well, get ready to march, then. It became inevitable the day we rejected the Sunbelt.


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(10-26-2014 08:57 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  It's pretty lame that the only jokes we, and other fan bases, throw at Liberty are about their faith and politics. Meanwhile, like someone already stated, they have great athletic facilities, better student support than JMU, an overall fan base that continues to show up against much worse competition than we get at JMU, tons of money, and most of all, a strategic plan and vision that our fans can only dream of having. Kudos to Liberty for all they have accomplished in a very short amount of time.

You forgot to mention being one of the worst academically ranked va universities.
That's certainly something to put on the brochures.

(10-26-2014 08:28 PM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote:  Laugh if you will, but Liberty is a sleeping giant. They are flush with cash, are building one heck of a program there and are likely to go FBS before we do, because they lack a hang up about the Sun Belt.


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I don't think anyone is doubting what Touchdown Jesus has in their back pocket.

Liberty knows a thing or two about promotion, others schools could learn from them..

Dolley - you nailed it here. Great athletic facilities and great support. I don't care if they worship an ant and teach that the world is flat. I'm impressed with them from an athletic standpoint and won't be suprised (although sad) if they pass up by. In many ways we speak about them and look down upon them like UVA and UR do JMU which is pretty sad.

(10-26-2014 08:57 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  It's pretty lame that the only jokes we, and other fan bases, throw at Liberty are about their faith and politics. Meanwhile, like someone already stated, they have great athletic facilities, better student support than JMU, an overall fan base that continues to show up against much worse competition than we get at JMU, tons of money, and most of all, a strategic plan and vision that our fans can only dream of having. Kudos to Liberty for all they have accomplished in a very short amount of time.

(10-26-2014 08:57 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  It's pretty lame that the only jokes we, and other fan bases, throw at Liberty are about their faith and politics.

..and "Academics"

(10-27-2014 07:42 AM)Dukie95 Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 08:57 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  It's pretty lame that the only jokes we, and other fan bases, throw at Liberty are about their faith and politics.

..and "Academics"

... and that their online course offerings is a cash cow for them.

As a long-time educator in higher education, I can tell you that online courses are the dirty little secret in higher ed. While there are some quality programs and for the right courses, it may make sense, but the vast majority of online courses are just there for institutions to collect fees from students ... "Quantity vs. Quality" is the argument that is often debated now and Quantity ($$$$) is winning big time right now.

(10-27-2014 07:15 AM)91Dawg Wrote:  Dolley - you nailed it here. Great athletic facilities and great support. I don't care if they worship an ant and teach that the world is flat. I'm impressed with them from an athletic standpoint and won't be suprised (although sad) if they pass up by. In many ways we speak about them and look down upon them like UVA and UR do JMU which is pretty sad.

(10-26-2014 08:57 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  It's pretty lame that the only jokes we, and other fan bases, throw at Liberty are about their faith and politics. Meanwhile, like someone already stated, they have great athletic facilities, better student support than JMU, an overall fan base that continues to show up against much worse competition than we get at JMU, tons of money, and most of all, a strategic plan and vision that our fans can only dream of having. Kudos to Liberty for all they have accomplished in a very short amount of time.

Bingo....the folks at Liberty have great facilities and are not ashamed to promote themselves and make it clear what they want.

(10-27-2014 08:17 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(10-27-2014 07:15 AM)91Dawg Wrote:  Dolley - you nailed it here. Great athletic facilities and great support. I don't care if they worship an ant and teach that the world is flat. I'm impressed with them from an athletic standpoint and won't be suprised (although sad) if they pass up by. In many ways we speak about them and look down upon them like UVA and UR do JMU which is pretty sad.

(10-26-2014 08:57 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  It's pretty lame that the only jokes we, and other fan bases, throw at Liberty are about their faith and politics. Meanwhile, like someone already stated, they have great athletic facilities, better student support than JMU, an overall fan base that continues to show up against much worse competition than we get at JMU, tons of money, and most of all, a strategic plan and vision that our fans can only dream of having. Kudos to Liberty for all they have accomplished in a very short amount of time.

Bingo....the folks at Liberty have great facilities and are not ashamed to promote themselves and make it clear what they want.

And they can do this because they don't get 1/3 of their budget from the GA and are only accountable to themselves.

Liberty, ODU, and VCU all rank in the bottom 5 among the 21 universities in Virginia ranked in the Forbes "America's Top Colleges" list. I think we can all agree we would not hold VCU and ODU's academics against them if we had the opportunity to be in a conference with them.

Furthermore, here are some other universities that we may end up in a conference with that rank below Liberty:

Bowling Green
Boise State
Central Michigan
Toledo
Troy
Eastern Michigan
UTSA

Yes, JMU is far superior to Liberty in terms of academic rankings. But considering all Liberty has accomplished in a very short period of time...how about we let our personal biases against the school not get in the way of realizing they have some good things happening in Lynchburg, especially in terms of athletics.

http://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

I don't think this "Tradition" is cool, they stole it from Duke, they're lame, Liberty's lame, blah blah blah.

(10-27-2014 09:20 AM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  Furthermore, here are some other universities that we may end up in a conference with that rank below Liberty:

Bowling Green
Boise State
Central Michigan
Toledo
Troy
Eastern Michigan
UTSA

Using the rankings that matter most, US News and World Report, they fall as follows:
Bowling Green - 173 National
Central Michigan - 194 National
Toledo - Unranked National
Texas-San Antonio - Unranked National
Boise State - 63 West Regional (we wouldn't be in the MWC btw)
Troy - 76 South Regional (we wouldn't be in the SBC or it would've already happened)
Eastern Michigan - 77 Midwest Regional
Liberty - 80 South Regional

It's safe to say that a ranked national is better than all but the top 20 regional schools. Unranked schools are a complete unknown, but it is known that they aren't good.
Any regional school past the top 20 is typically a bad school, and it only gets worse the further back they fall.
You could say Troy and Eastern Michigan are barely better, which they are. All other schools are clearly ahead of Liberty.

So no... they don't rank as worse.