(10-26-2014 02:22 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 02:15 PM)therockets046 Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 07:39 AM)PTLROCK Wrote:  It seems so easy sometimes, but think about it. Toledo's running game is built on mixing up the play calls. I am really impressed with how even the run and pass yards are every week. If Toledo didn't take this approach, the run game would be much less effective facing 8 in the box, in spite of having 5 Seniors on the O-Line, and couple great backs. I think we need to go down field more, but it is working well otherwise. The plays have been more down and distance related this year compared to the last several seasons. That is an improvement that merits mentioning. Otherwise, Toledo simply needs to execute better. Thankfully the week off is behind them.

I agree with this 100% and I'm glad somebody made this point because it it seems like people seriously think we should be running the ball as often as The Navy and that it would make our offense unstoppable. I think it's pretty clear that we need to show the pass often enough for defenses to realize that it can come at any time and that we did that to near perfection yesterday. Otherwise the defense will sell out to stop the run, which still doesn't always work, but we do get stuffed often enough on goal line/short yardage situations where anything other than a run is highly improbable.

I like Woodside but I think the reason we don't throw more downfield is because we can't. Anything over 15 yards falls into the following categories: overthrown, wobbly, or behind.

Very true; I don't think we should throw downfield any more often than we do, and our short passing game is enough to keep defenses honest, as frustrating as it is to watch us waste a down on a poorly thrown 3-yard out route, or a drop.

(10-26-2014 11:04 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 10:58 AM)owen Wrote:  I like how he went onto the field to argue a penalty, but the flag was actually against UMASS, and in turn he cost UT a sideline infraction penalty.

May not have ever seen a coach argue with the officials on a favorable call. And it was fairly obvious what the original flag was for.

There was no flag thrown by the side judge (or whatever the ref is called who stands on the LOS). So Campbell probably thought there was no penalty. So that's why he went nuts. I never saw a flag thrown for 12 men on the field, but someone says the backjudge threw it??? The only flag I saw was the one thrown on Campbell after/at the end of the play. So it was not fairly obvious what the flag was for. Everyone sitting around me was going nuts, yelling for a flag because we didn't see one for 12 men.

Sorry.
From my vantage point it was fairly obvious. And Campbell had a better view than me.

I would love to see this team continue its undefeated roll through the conference.

Arguably the best team from my era, the 2000 Rockets, did not win a championship. So it would be foolish not to celebrate an achievement like that even when I don't consider it among our most talented teams. And Pinkel didn't go unscathed through the MAC. That 2000 WMU game was another played under terrible weather conditions at Waldo Stadium I recall.

(10-26-2014 04:55 PM)owen Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 11:04 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 10:58 AM)owen Wrote:  I like how he went onto the field to argue a penalty, but the flag was actually against UMASS, and in turn he cost UT a sideline infraction penalty.

May not have ever seen a coach argue with the officials on a favorable call. And it was fairly obvious what the original flag was for.

There was no flag thrown by the side judge (or whatever the ref is called who stands on the LOS). So Campbell probably thought there was no penalty. So that's why he went nuts. I never saw a flag thrown for 12 men on the field, but someone says the backjudge threw it??? The only flag I saw was the one thrown on Campbell after/at the end of the play. So it was not fairly obvious what the flag was for. Everyone sitting around me was going nuts, yelling for a flag because we didn't see one for 12 men.

Sorry.
From my vantage point it was fairly obvious. And Campbell had a better view than me.

I would love to see this team continue its undefeated roll through the conference.

Arguably the best team from my era, the 2000 Rockets, did not win a championship. So it would be foolish not to celebrate an achievement like that even when I don't consider it among our most talented teams. And Pinkel didn't go unscathed through the MAC. That 2000 WMU game was another played under terrible weather conditions at Waldo Stadium I recall.

The 2004 Rockets started out with two completely embarrassing routes (63-whatever) and yet to their credit they won a MACC, the most recent one that the Rockets own and they are rightfully remembered and credited with that accomplishment and I agree that the 2014 team has a similar opportunity for a similar feat this year and the recognition that goes with it.

My experience with the Rockets is post-Ealy era so I also agree that the 2000 Rockets was the best Rocket team I remember although 1995 was also right up there too---in fact the 1995 team had more accomplishments on their resume than did the 2000 team, but I have never seen a rocket team so well coached to execute all facets of the game consistently so near to perfection as did the 2000 Rockets.

My memory is far from what it once was but I don't remember the weather at Waldo being all that bad that night. It was chilly but not bitterly cold and their wasn't any rain that I recall. For whatever reason the Rockets came out flat for really the only time that entire season and although they sort of woke up in the 4th quarter, WMU also had a very good team that year and it was too little too late. A bitter, bitter disappointment.

[EDIT---Not trusting my memory, I looked it up. It was actually 64 and overcast (but no rain) with a wind of 10 mph. UT outscored WMU 14-0 in the 4th quarter but lost 21-14]

I also remember that the MAC had rearranged schedules the year before for whatever reason and UT got WMU at the Glass Bowl back to back in 1998 and 1999 otherwise the 1999 game would have been at Waldo and the 2000 game would have been at UT where the Rockets would have had an excellent chance of winning. Maybe I am just being petty, but although it was totally inadvertent, I view it as just another disservice to UT by the MAC that in effect (with the help of WMU coach Gary Darnell) gave yet another homer MACC to the same Marshall team that had lost to the same Rocket team in October by a score of 42-0, a delightful game with "balanced scoring---i.e. 21 points scored by the offense and 21 points scored by the defense.

I know nothing anymore about the selection process of the bowl games we'd be involved in but I was looking the other day and noticed that the MAC and USA are supposed to meet in that bowl game in Boca Raton and I would LOVE if we could get one more piece of Marshall in that game. You can't ask for a better possible matchup among the 2 conferences. We'd be the toughest team they'd play all year by far and they might even have an interim coach at that point, and even if we get beat, they could show some seriously awesome past highlights.

(10-26-2014 06:50 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 04:55 PM)owen Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 11:04 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 10:58 AM)owen Wrote:  I like how he went onto the field to argue a penalty, but the flag was actually against UMASS, and in turn he cost UT a sideline infraction penalty.

May not have ever seen a coach argue with the officials on a favorable call. And it was fairly obvious what the original flag was for.

There was no flag thrown by the side judge (or whatever the ref is called who stands on the LOS). So Campbell probably thought there was no penalty. So that's why he went nuts. I never saw a flag thrown for 12 men on the field, but someone says the backjudge threw it??? The only flag I saw was the one thrown on Campbell after/at the end of the play. So it was not fairly obvious what the flag was for. Everyone sitting around me was going nuts, yelling for a flag because we didn't see one for 12 men.

Sorry.
From my vantage point it was fairly obvious. And Campbell had a better view than me.

I would love to see this team continue its undefeated roll through the conference.

Arguably the best team from my era, the 2000 Rockets, did not win a championship. So it would be foolish not to celebrate an achievement like that even when I don't consider it among our most talented teams. And Pinkel didn't go unscathed through the MAC. That 2000 WMU game was another played under terrible weather conditions at Waldo Stadium I recall.

The 2004 Rockets started out with two completely embarrassing routes (63-whatever) and yet to their credit they won a MACC, the most recent one that the Rockets own and they are rightfully remembered and credited with that accomplishment and I agree that the 2014 team has a similar opportunity for a similar feat this year and the recognition that goes with it.

My experience with the Rockets is post-Ealy era so I also agree that the 2000 Rockets was the best Rocket team I remember although 1995 was also right up there too---in fact the 1995 team had more accomplishments on their resume than did the 2000 team, but I have never seen a rocket team so well coached to execute all facets of the game consistently so near to perfection as did the 2000 Rockets.

My memory is far from what it once was but I don't remember the weather at Waldo being all that bad that night. It was chilly but not bitterly cold and their wasn't any rain that I recall. For whatever reason the Rockets came out flat for really the only time that entire season and although they sort of woke up in the 4th quarter, WMU also had a very good team that year and it was too little too late. A bitter, bitter disappointment.

I also remember that the MAC had rearranged schedules the year before for whatever reason and UT got WMU at the Glass Bowl back to back in 1998 and 1999 otherwise the 1999 game would have been at Waldo and the 2000 game would have been at UT where the Rockets would have had an excellent chance of winning. Maybe I am just being petty, but although it was totally inadvertent, I view it as just another disservice to UT by the MAC that in effect (with the help of WMU coach Gary Darnell) gave yet another homer MACC to the same Marshall team that had lost to the same Rocket team in October by a score of 42-0, a delightful game with "balanced scoring---i.e. 21 points scored by the offense and 21 points scored by the defense.

Don't know how I forgot the 1995 rockets. That tie against Miami sucked.

But the 2004 team, it doesn't rank high with me.
I went to Minneapolis for that opener and was absolutely humiliated by that beating.
Glad we won the conference.
But the loss in the Motor City bowl against UCONN really cinched it for me as being a prime example how even a championship season can be a bitter disappointment.

The 2005 season was awesome and the gradkowski game vs. utep was an excellent way to end a career. 2012 was the year I thought we were the best in the last 5 seasons. A bad 3rd qtr vs. NIU and BSU and we fell off the map. Molls got hurt in the bowl game right away...flu was banged up. Could have been a wonderful MACC year. The MAC was also very good, with 7 bowl teams.

The 2000 team was the best in my 25+ years of watching UT football. That was as dominating a team as I've seen in the Glass Bowl and the adjustments we'd make at halftime were phenomenal. One hiccup vs. WMU and we stay home. I think T. Bolden doesn't get enough credit for being one of our legendary quarterbacks. He was solid in all phases of the game.

Close second is the 1995 team. That was a fun ride with a lot of skill players on both sides of the ball, and lead by Tait.