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RE: Justice is served
(10-26-2014 02:49 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  We've been over this DB. You picked lots of wins, so that when they didn't materialize (which you were sure they would'nt) you could gloat and say, "See, we should have won those games, but we didn't. He's incompetent."

It was your fall back position.

It didn't pan out. At this point he's exceeded expectations. You have no choice but to pretend you want him to win, and throw in that stupid qualifier, that "If he wins he's gone, and we couldn't keep him anyway."

You deposited all of your WMU football capital in believing he'd fail miserably, and now you're account is tapped out, and you're trying to hang on to a few investors (suckers) who want to stay on board with you. Each day, your fellow investors are jumping ship.

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10-26-2014 03:49 PM
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RE: Justice is served
DB timeline:

Invested in bad hire
December, 2012: Joke of a hire! Fire Dunn and Kathy! 01-lauramac2
February, 2013: He's embarrassing our university with all of these stupid slogans! 01-lauramac2
June, 2013: These recruits will never stick. 03-phew
August, 2013: He's all talk, bet he can't coach. 03-shhhh

New narrative/positioning begins in case recruiting class holds
September, 2013: Fleck can't coach. He better win, and win fast. 04-high5
April, 2014: Amazing hires by Miami and EMU. Man, they totally schooled us! 02-13-banana
February, 2014: Recruiting class doesn't mean anything because he can't coach. He still has to develop talent! 01-lauramac2
April, 2014: If by chance he can coach, I hope he wins and wins fast. 03-confused
July, 2014: We should win six games this year. I hope we win 9 and he leaves, though. 03-phew

Oh crap, he can actually coach
October, 2014: I told you guys this would happen. What'd you expect! 01-wingedeagle

Can't wait to see what's next...
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2014 04:06 PM by Hoekjeness.)
10-26-2014 04:04 PM
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Post: #43
RE: Justice is served
(10-26-2014 04:04 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  DB timeline:

Invested in bad hire
December, 2012: Joke of a hire! Fire Dunn and Kathy! 01-lauramac2
February, 2013: He's embarrassing our university with all of these stupid slogans! 01-lauramac2
June, 2013: These recruits will never stick. 03-phew
August, 2013: He's all talk, bet he can't coach. 03-shhhh

New narrative/positioning begins in case recruiting class holds
September, 2013: Fleck can't coach. He better win, and win fast. 04-high5
April, 2014: Amazing hires by Miami and EMU. Man, they totally schooled us! 02-13-banana
February, 2014: Recruiting class doesn't mean anything because he can't coach. He still has to develop talent! 01-lauramac2
April, 2014: If by chance he can coach, I hope he wins and wins fast. 03-confused
July, 2014: We should win six games this year. I hope we win 9 and he leaves, though. 03-phew

Oh crap, he can actually coach
October, 2014: I told you guys this would happen. What'd you expect! 01-wingedeagle

Can't wait to see what's next...

Did you make this up? LOL
10-26-2014 04:28 PM
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RE: Justice is served
I don't see any of the 2013 season in there, and this one has yet to fully play out. 03-shhhh

Seems HJ's biggest fear is Fleck leaving, more so than wanting us to win. How sad is that?
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10-26-2014 05:02 PM
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RE: Justice is served
(10-26-2014 04:28 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  
(10-26-2014 04:04 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  DB timeline:

Invested in bad hire
December, 2012: Joke of a hire! Fire Dunn and Kathy! 01-lauramac2
February, 2013: He's embarrassing our university with all of these stupid slogans! 01-lauramac2
June, 2013: These recruits will never stick. 03-phew
August, 2013: He's all talk, bet he can't coach. 03-shhhh

New narrative/positioning begins in case recruiting class holds
September, 2013: Fleck can't coach. He better win, and win fast. 04-high5
April, 2014: Amazing hires by Miami and EMU. Man, they totally schooled us! 02-13-banana
February, 2014: Recruiting class doesn't mean anything because he can't coach. He still has to develop talent! 01-lauramac2
April, 2014: If by chance he can coach, I hope he wins and wins fast. 03-confused
July, 2014: We should win six games this year. I hope we win 9 and he leaves, though. 03-phew

Oh crap, he can actually coach
October, 2014: I told you guys this would happen. What'd you expect! 01-wingedeagle

Can't wait to see what's next...

Did you make this up? LOL

Nope, it was ALL SAID. DB should run for office.
10-26-2014 07:31 PM
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RE: Justice is served
(10-26-2014 07:31 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(10-26-2014 04:28 PM)BCBronco Wrote:  
(10-26-2014 04:04 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  DB timeline:

Invested in bad hire
December, 2012: Joke of a hire! Fire Dunn and Kathy! 01-lauramac2
February, 2013: He's embarrassing our university with all of these stupid slogans! 01-lauramac2
June, 2013: These recruits will never stick. 03-phew
August, 2013: He's all talk, bet he can't coach. 03-shhhh

New narrative/positioning begins in case recruiting class holds
September, 2013: Fleck can't coach. He better win, and win fast. 04-high5
April, 2014: Amazing hires by Miami and EMU. Man, they totally schooled us! 02-13-banana
February, 2014: Recruiting class doesn't mean anything because he can't coach. He still has to develop talent! 01-lauramac2
April, 2014: If by chance he can coach, I hope he wins and wins fast. 03-confused
July, 2014: We should win six games this year. I hope we win 9 and he leaves, though. 03-phew

Oh crap, he can actually coach
October, 2014: I told you guys this would happen. What'd you expect! 01-wingedeagle

Can't wait to see what's next...

Did you make this up? LOL

Nope, it was ALL SAID. DB should run for office.

You should retire. Oh wait...
10-26-2014 07:34 PM
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RE: Justice is served
It's like a time machine back to junior high. I disappeared for years on end because II was living on line, started having my private life aired out online because of my now ex-wife and eventually lost my ways to get online. I thought people older than I weresupposed to be more mature than me. When I finally decided to come back and start posting again, I have noticed that the maturity level has actually decreased. All topics are mutated into a junior high display of "I'm right, your wrong" by both the pro Fleck and anti Fleck crowds. The one good thing is that as the team continues to win games more people are jumping back into supporting the team to win and not rooting for them to fail so the coach will get fired. Narratives on both sides have changed but their attitudes have not. As for me, I didn't like having an alum of a rival MAC west division school as our head coach, but my love of all things Western (there is not a team at WMU I don't root for. I also root for the Sky Broncos ever since I found out they have a team that competes for a National Championship) keeps me from rooting for failure just so someone would get fired.

Instead of the backhanded compliments and the rehashing of the same old garbage to deteriorate every topic maybe we should celebrate the team winning again and one win away from being guaranteed a .500 season (something that hasn't happened in 4+ seasons.
10-26-2014 10:42 PM
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RE: Justice is served
I wouldn't call myself "Pro-Fleck"

I'm pro-WMU.

Fleck is our coach. His success = our success. I saw something in the beginning that I liked. Therefore, yes I'm a Fleck fan now.

If he leaves WMU, he's dead to me and I'll be rooting for the next guy... unless he proves not to be a good coach.
10-27-2014 05:49 AM
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Post: #49
RE: Justice is served
It has never been as simplistic as pro or anti Fleck.

There has been lots of varied opinion about HOW Coach approached things. Ironically, HOW is now a Fleck mantra.

My stance has always been he is young, talented, and learning.

Well, it appears he is getting more mature, more respectful of tradition, and all of that is leading to positive results. I for one, although I didn't like the initial HOW, am Ready to Row.

Suggest those who liked things from the beginning, please don't put the rest of us in a "Hater" box. We wanted to see some growth and maturity, he listened and adjusted, now we are happy.

The cheerleaders, take a couple weeks and gloat about it for a couple weeks if it makes you feel better. The rest of us are just happy to finally see some better football on the field!
10-27-2014 06:35 AM
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