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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
Hare's averaging 7.6 YPC. Maddie's running has been as advertised, it's just hard to be more effective running than Hare has been this year. He picks his spots to take off really well. He usually is pretty good in the read/option game too, although he did have a mistake in that against EMU.
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
(10-28-2014 08:33 AM)GCD70 Wrote: (10-26-2014 08:32 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (10-26-2014 02:13 AM)KMR_NIU_13 Wrote: I'm not sure what the big advantage of Hare is if he can't make the passing game work. Lynch made the offense work with minimal throws down the field. Throwing was Hare's upside over maddie wasn't it? The offense looks the best when maddie/hare are running the ball. Maddie gets the advantage there, so why not try him for an extended session?
Yes, he's made a few poor decisions that could've been INT's, but that should go away with game reps.
Agree or disagree?
Does Maddie really have the advantage in running? When Hare gets some running room he seems to have some vision and gets extra yards. Maddie has not really had much running room but that's partly because none of our opponents are convinced he can throw, so they just worry about the run.
Maddie is not as good as I thought he would be. He obviously is not a good thrower so I though his running ability would be high. As it turns out Hare is a much better runner. I can see palying Maddie one series in the first half just in case Hare goes down. At least Maddie will not be a deer in headlights. Offensively, I would like to see us throw more vertically and use the middle of the field. Also, have to get more of out offensive players involved. Bourgeran had 2 carries in 1st half vs EMU.
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10-28-2014 08:37 AM |
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
(10-28-2014 08:01 AM)NIU8484 Wrote: (10-28-2014 05:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (10-26-2014 10:41 PM)7 Wrote: Jesus, stop comparing Maddie to Grady. It's stupid. Grady STARTED 4 games and played the entire game in 3 games in 2009 and threw a total of 43 passes for the entire season. Whenever Grady played, it was an extremely dumbed down version of the offense. Maddie is a better player than Grady was.
And NIU's run game doesn't consist of any outside runs because they have no speed on offense, not because it's the design of the offense. Both Hare and Maddie have proven to be effective runners. Hare is the clear starting QB and Maddie will continue to play.
There really isn't much of a difference between the two. Hare's the starter because he has proven to be a really good decision maker and he's great at taking care of the ball. That's his strength. He's also ungodly inaccurate and has a long throwing motion.
HE ALSO THREW FOR 44 YARDS YESTERDAY. FORTY-FOUR. He's not a very good QB. The only thing that's changed since his Kent State and CMU debacles is they've gone back to running QB power (thank God) and the offensive line has protected better. If NIU gets in a game where they're not blowing the opposing team off the line like they have the past two weeks, NIU's in deep doodoo. The good news is, there's really no reason this offensive line shouldn't be able to bully every defensive line left on the schedule. They've already proven they can do it.
The Hare/Harnish comparisons are foolish, but Grady and Maddie are the same QB, actually pretty eerie how similar they are. I actually think Grady might be a bit better though just because he probably had the stronger arm of the two. I would not read much into passing numbers Saturday, nobody was going to throw the ball well in that kind of wind. Heck, EMU only had 125 yards I think.
Cue the 7 head explosion in 3...2...1
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Nope. Here's the thing about MD, he's really not dumb. If you sort through his nonsense, he actually makes good observations one time. An example of that is I actually agree with him that Maddie does have a tendancy run east/west too often. When Hare decides to take off, he gets his yards and gets down.
I'm pretty sure MD is trolling me with the Grady stuff just to try to get me pissed off haha.
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10-28-2014 08:39 AM |
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
(10-25-2014 05:01 PM)7 Wrote: (10-25-2014 04:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: Hare might be bad, but he is far far far and away the best option to win right now.
Who here has said Hare shouldn't be starting? I complimented the coaches on how they used both QBs today. I know you have some weird dislike for Maddie, but nobody has said Hare shouldn't be starting.
MD said nothing about who should & should not be starting. 7, You too have a tendency to just reply to MD without thinking.
As for MD's "weird dislike for Maddie" you refer to, perhaps the same could be said for you having a "weird dislike" for Hare & an obsession for Maddie?
Come on - lets stop beating up on each other. We are all on the same fan wagon here guys.
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10-28-2014 10:44 AM |
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
Reginald Bell is fun to watch. It's great for EMU to have an exciting difference maker like him.
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10-28-2014 11:11 AM |
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
(10-28-2014 08:39 AM)7 Wrote: (10-28-2014 08:01 AM)NIU8484 Wrote: (10-28-2014 05:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (10-26-2014 10:41 PM)7 Wrote: Jesus, stop comparing Maddie to Grady. It's stupid. Grady STARTED 4 games and played the entire game in 3 games in 2009 and threw a total of 43 passes for the entire season. Whenever Grady played, it was an extremely dumbed down version of the offense. Maddie is a better player than Grady was.
And NIU's run game doesn't consist of any outside runs because they have no speed on offense, not because it's the design of the offense. Both Hare and Maddie have proven to be effective runners. Hare is the clear starting QB and Maddie will continue to play.
There really isn't much of a difference between the two. Hare's the starter because he has proven to be a really good decision maker and he's great at taking care of the ball. That's his strength. He's also ungodly inaccurate and has a long throwing motion.
HE ALSO THREW FOR 44 YARDS YESTERDAY. FORTY-FOUR. He's not a very good QB. The only thing that's changed since his Kent State and CMU debacles is they've gone back to running QB power (thank God) and the offensive line has protected better. If NIU gets in a game where they're not blowing the opposing team off the line like they have the past two weeks, NIU's in deep doodoo. The good news is, there's really no reason this offensive line shouldn't be able to bully every defensive line left on the schedule. They've already proven they can do it.
The Hare/Harnish comparisons are foolish, but Grady and Maddie are the same QB, actually pretty eerie how similar they are. I actually think Grady might be a bit better though just because he probably had the stronger arm of the two. I would not read much into passing numbers Saturday, nobody was going to throw the ball well in that kind of wind. Heck, EMU only had 125 yards I think.
Cue the 7 head explosion in 3...2...1
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Nope. Here's the thing about MD, he's really not dumb. If you sort through his nonsense, he actually makes good observations one time. An example of that is I actually agree with him that Maddie does have a tendancy run east/west too often. When Hare decides to take off, he gets his yards and gets down.
I'm pretty sure MD is trolling me with the Grady stuff just to try to get me pissed off haha.
MD makes so many posts that some have to be valid. It's kind of funny if he is comparing Maddie to Grady just to piss people off. But it is also completely frustrating that he writes Maddie off as being bad when he doesn't get the chance to play more than 1 series in a row. And when you make a point to counter his, he just ignores it and keeps posting his crap. He's kind of like a politician.
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10-28-2014 01:23 PM |
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
I re-watched some of the EMU game and it was better than I thought the first time. If we don't get two short field goals blocked and Olootu and Mays don't drop easy interceptions it's a 41 - 14 game.
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10-29-2014 10:47 PM |
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
(10-29-2014 10:47 PM)NIU1981 Wrote: I re-watched some of the EMU game and it was better than I thought the first time. If we don't get two short field goals blocked and Olootu and Mays don't drop easy interceptions it's a 41 - 14 game.
He is one player that I think has improved each week. He's going to get a pick before the seasons over.
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RE: EMU Game Thoughts
(10-28-2014 01:23 PM)NIU17 Wrote: (10-28-2014 08:39 AM)7 Wrote: (10-28-2014 08:01 AM)NIU8484 Wrote: (10-28-2014 05:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (10-26-2014 10:41 PM)7 Wrote: Jesus, stop comparing Maddie to Grady. It's stupid. Grady STARTED 4 games and played the entire game in 3 games in 2009 and threw a total of 43 passes for the entire season. Whenever Grady played, it was an extremely dumbed down version of the offense. Maddie is a better player than Grady was.
And NIU's run game doesn't consist of any outside runs because they have no speed on offense, not because it's the design of the offense. Both Hare and Maddie have proven to be effective runners. Hare is the clear starting QB and Maddie will continue to play.
There really isn't much of a difference between the two. Hare's the starter because he has proven to be a really good decision maker and he's great at taking care of the ball. That's his strength. He's also ungodly inaccurate and has a long throwing motion.
HE ALSO THREW FOR 44 YARDS YESTERDAY. FORTY-FOUR. He's not a very good QB. The only thing that's changed since his Kent State and CMU debacles is they've gone back to running QB power (thank God) and the offensive line has protected better. If NIU gets in a game where they're not blowing the opposing team off the line like they have the past two weeks, NIU's in deep doodoo. The good news is, there's really no reason this offensive line shouldn't be able to bully every defensive line left on the schedule. They've already proven they can do it.
The Hare/Harnish comparisons are foolish, but Grady and Maddie are the same QB, actually pretty eerie how similar they are. I actually think Grady might be a bit better though just because he probably had the stronger arm of the two. I would not read much into passing numbers Saturday, nobody was going to throw the ball well in that kind of wind. Heck, EMU only had 125 yards I think.
Cue the 7 head explosion in 3...2...1
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Nope. Here's the thing about MD, he's really not dumb. If you sort through his nonsense, he actually makes good observations one time. An example of that is I actually agree with him that Maddie does have a tendancy run east/west too often. When Hare decides to take off, he gets his yards and gets down.
I'm pretty sure MD is trolling me with the Grady stuff just to try to get me pissed off haha.
MD makes so many posts that some have to be valid. It's kind of funny if he is comparing Maddie to Grady just to piss people off. But it is also completely frustrating that he writes Maddie off as being bad when he doesn't get the chance to play more than 1 series in a row. And when you make a point to counter his, he just ignores it and keeps posting his crap. He's kind of like a politician.
Something something about a broken clock.....
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EMU Game Thoughts
(10-30-2014 12:56 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote: (10-28-2014 01:23 PM)NIU17 Wrote: (10-28-2014 08:39 AM)7 Wrote: (10-28-2014 08:01 AM)NIU8484 Wrote: (10-28-2014 05:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: The Hare/Harnish comparisons are foolish, but Grady and Maddie are the same QB, actually pretty eerie how similar they are. I actually think Grady might be a bit better though just because he probably had the stronger arm of the two. I would not read much into passing numbers Saturday, nobody was going to throw the ball well in that kind of wind. Heck, EMU only had 125 yards I think.
Cue the 7 head explosion in 3...2...1
Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App
Nope. Here's the thing about MD, he's really not dumb. If you sort through his nonsense, he actually makes good observations one time. An example of that is I actually agree with him that Maddie does have a tendancy run east/west too often. When Hare decides to take off, he gets his yards and gets down.
I'm pretty sure MD is trolling me with the Grady stuff just to try to get me pissed off haha.
MD makes so many posts that some have to be valid. It's kind of funny if he is comparing Maddie to Grady just to piss people off. But it is also completely frustrating that he writes Maddie off as being bad when he doesn't get the chance to play more than 1 series in a row. And when you make a point to counter his, he just ignores it and keeps posting his crap. He's kind of like a politician.
Something something about a broken clock.....
Even a blind squirrel.......
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