(10-25-2014 03:38 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You guys must be young. You should have been here in the mid 80's for Rey Dempsey. He took a team poised to bust out that was 6-4-1 when Dockery died and managed to make them unwatchable, run off good players, and sent things into a death spiral that you have never seen here. Porter's teams were not near as bad as what Dempsey turned the program into.

Oh my!! That had to be bad!

Yeah, we were that bad.

(10-25-2014 02:41 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  No, but I feel their pain.

I guess you didn't go that Arkansas St game

(10-25-2014 03:38 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You guys must be young. You should have been here in the mid 80's for Rey Dempsey. He took a team poised to bust out that was 6-4-1 when Dockery died and managed to make them unwatchable, run off good players, and sent things into a death spiral that you have never seen here. Porter's teams were not near as bad as what Dempsey turned the program into.

We were worse than that Rex's first year after the walkout from the Williamson years

(10-25-2014 03:11 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  During Porter's second season, I left almost every home game at halftime. Left one game after the 1st quarter, we were equally as bad. Many blowout losses.

I would even say that we were worse. Sadly.

To make matters worse, most of those guys that we have in the NFL now...played for Porter.

(10-25-2014 03:43 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 03:38 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You guys must be young. You should have been here in the mid 80's for Rey Dempsey. He took a team poised to bust out that was 6-4-1 when Dockery died and managed to make them unwatchable, run off good players, and sent things into a death spiral that you have never seen here. Porter's teams were not near as bad as what Dempsey turned the program into.

Oh my!! That had to be bad!

Dempsey was a strange guy.

(10-25-2014 04:01 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 03:43 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 03:38 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You guys must be young. You should have been here in the mid 80's for Rey Dempsey. He took a team poised to bust out that was 6-4-1 when Dockery died and managed to make them unwatchable, run off good players, and sent things into a death spiral that you have never seen here. Porter's teams were not near as bad as what Dempsey turned the program into.

Oh my!! That had to be bad!

Dempsey was a strange guy.

We all thought he was a good hire at first too. Had won a division 1AA national title. But when he and Sparkman got into it ..... Boom it was OVA fast

(10-25-2014 04:01 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 03:43 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 03:38 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You guys must be young. You should have been here in the mid 80's for Rey Dempsey. He took a team poised to bust out that was 6-4-1 when Dockery died and managed to make them unwatchable, run off good players, and sent things into a death spiral that you have never seen here. Porter's teams were not near as bad as what Dempsey turned the program into.

Oh my!! That had to be bad!

Dempsey was a strange guy.

I think he missed his calling to the Ministry and somehow ended up coaching football.

Yes

We've been as bad as SMU maybe 3 different times

(10-25-2014 02:51 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Rey Dempsey's final games and The Larry Porter era were our low points. And they were SMU bad.

We lost 49-7 at Army, in the several inches of snow, with astro-turf cleats, and no jackets, at about 20 degrees. Yes Dempsey was narcissistic, delusional and paranoid, but that team was not bad. Go back and look at the draft picks. About five or so were drafted, Harris, Walker, Long, Elder, Burroughs, and a few others that I can think of that came very close. Hooper, Oliver, Lovelady, Jerry Harris, (Wasn't Eric "Cocaine" Fairs drafted as well?) very stacked team. Great athletes, crazy a$$ coach.

(10-25-2014 03:28 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 03:26 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 03:13 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 02:41 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  I would have to say no...

Dude, we were way worst than SMU under Porter. Today, SMU put 10 points on the board on us. No way, we would have put up 10 under Porter. I sat out there at the LB with Porter games and half time we were always 3 to 4 touchdowns behind at half time.

We were in a couple of games with porter at least...

49-3 at half to ASU?

Nothing can be worse than that...

Even recently yes...bottom stretch had to be:

Middle of 2010 season...in order...

Tulsa 7-48
At Louisville 0-56
Southern Miss 19-41
Houston 17-56
Tennessee 14-50

Team finished that year stronger and actually improved quite a bit the following year, although the were a few really bad games.

The above five game stretch was as bad as it gets.

Porter's worst games were worse than smu today. Some games he couldn't even get a play run or the team to line up right.

Add to that our roster of zero and one stars. And our amazing lack of depth. If we could match up with talent, it didn't last into the 3rd quarter. Bloody awful.

The Tigers at their best have never been as as good as the Mustangs at theirs.

(10-25-2014 03:38 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You guys must be young. You should have been here in the mid 80's for Rey Dempsey. He took a team poised to bust out that was 6-4-1 when Dockery died and managed to make them unwatchable, run off good players, and sent things into a death spiral that you have never seen here. Porter's teams were not near as bad as what Dempsey turned the program into.

I remember both....I think the Porter team of 2010 was by far the worst. Dempsey's teams were somewhat competitive anyway.

(10-25-2014 02:58 PM)KendallC Wrote:  When we lost 47-3 to Arkansas State when Porter was at the helm, I knew we were going to be in deep trouble for awhile. But luckily, things have change.

But SMU is just horrible. I feel sorry for their next head coach.

We were badly coached but the players were skilled enough to play much better. Several are key for us this year.

(10-25-2014 04:36 PM)SNF6 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 02:51 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Rey Dempsey's final games and The Larry Porter era were our low points. And they were SMU bad.

We lost 49-7 at Army, in the several inches of snow, with astro-turf cleats, and no jackets, at about 20 degrees. Yes Dempsey was narcissistic, delusional and paranoid, but that team was not bad. Go back and look at the draft picks. About five or so were drafted, Harris, Walker, Long, Elder, Burroughs, and a few others that I can think of that came very close. Hooper, Oliver, Lovelady, Jerry Harris, (Wasn't Eric "Cocaine" Fairs drafted as well?) very stacked team. Great athletes, crazy a$$ coach.

I remember those guys. But, that team self destructed at the end of the season. There wasn't really a team to speak of at the end. Coach got fired. Bad times.

(10-25-2014 03:28 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 02:58 PM)KendallC Wrote:  When we lost 47-3 to Arkansas State when Porter was at the helm, I knew we were going to be in deep trouble for awhile. But luckily, things have change.

But SMU is just horrible. I feel sorry for their next head coach.

Yep, that humiliating debacle in Jonesboro almost made me give up.

Almost.

But I realized then that beatdown was the nail in Porter's coaching coffin. The truth is Larry just wasn't ready, and several assistants sandbagged his regime.

Comparing Porter to Fuente is like comparing Mr. Rogers to Conan the Barbarian.

Now his buddy, Capt. Kangaroo was one bad dude.