(10-27-2014 03:54 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

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(10-25-2014 12:53 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 09:10 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:50 AM)Monarch_Pride Wrote:  Yes, C-USA is a mid-major conference and has been all along.

Hasn't been all along. But definitely since 2006.

Original CUSA was one of the best conferences in basketball: Memphis, Louisville, Cincy, St. Louis, and Marquette were perennial tournament teams. Even UH and UAB were only 10-15 years removed from Final Four trips. CUSA got 4+ bids per year consistently back then. I guess you have to forget how far the conference has fallen to maintain a sense of optimism about it...?

Your point is valid, but from 1995-2005 who won more conference games than Memphis, Louisville, St Louis, and Marquette? Charlotte. We went to the NCAAs seven times and once to the NIT in those ten years.

We are pretty much mid-major these days.

Didn't we beatch about being called mid major even back in the CUSA 1.0 days as well?

I don't think that was a problem when the conference was formed with the above bolded programs as members. It later became a problem when the BE took a good number of the better programs.

A little happy news. Seth Davis's (overall) top 25:

22. La Tech
25. UTEP

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/statu...0422995968

(10-26-2014 09:09 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 04:59 PM)stanman505 Wrote:  Here is a little bit from a piece written for ESPN

Louisiana Tech should be better than it was last season, including the return of a healthy Raheem Appleby, but UTEP will also be improved, and the Miners will have more than enough bodies this time around. Many people have the league as a one-bid conference, but don't be surprised if C-USA sends two to the NCAA tourney come March.

Is CUSA a mid major if we send two teams to the NCAA tournament?

I remember when ODU was in the CAA and we sent 3 to the NCAA tournament and the CAA was still considered a mid major.

That was an anomaly. lol. However we were starting to become a solid two-bid league though. You know, before the apoCAAlypse. lol.

The top teams need to win OOC games like the football side is doing. Plus, with these wins coinciding with conference games we might turn some heads. You all know that those idiots who do the talking have a love affair with the Cabal and will try to downplay our conference.

As for Memphis, UTEP is 2-2 against them so they don't have a majority of wins, Dallas.

(10-28-2014 08:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  The top teams need to win OOC games like the football side is doing. Plus, with these wins coinciding with conference games we might turn some heads. You all know that those idiots who do the talking have a love affair with the Cabal and will try to downplay our conference.

As for Memphis, UTEP is 2-2 against them so they don't have a majority of wins, Dallas.

All of that was after Calapari though. He mentioned Calapari's Memphis teams but then UTEP in that sentence. UTEP beat Memphis the season we lost Calapari, our recruiting class and some of our players. Was a rough year for us.

Then the following season UTEP CRUSHED Memphis @ UTEP by freaking 27-30 or something like that off the top of my head when the Joe Jackson/Will Barton class were freshmen.

Not to take anything away but a few programs beat us those 2 seasons.

When Cal was here once he got it rolling we still had some tough games. We won @ UAB by 1 point when we were #1 in the country. In 2005-2006 season UAB actually beat us @ UAB when we were #3 and they were our only conference loss, they also made the tourney that season! A few other teams gave us some battles even during that 4 year run. The problem is asshats at ESPN, CBS Sports etc... DO NOT give teams or anyone outside of the Power conferences the respect it deserves.

The current C-USA could be a multibid league. I see 2 teams right now that SHOULD make the NCAA's with another potential bubble team. Problem is the bubble team will have to win against the sure fire 2 and that'll knock them down. It's a sad game these punks are playing behind the scenes. I'm personally fed up with it.

Power conferences getting 6-7 bids but only 1-2 of their teams win their first game... **Caugh ACC*** It's an F'ing joke.

A cusa team will have to win 25 to 27 games to get an at large bid. That's going to be really tough.

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Didn't we have two 27 win teams left out last year? I'm not sure C-USA will ever be a multi-bid league again.

(10-29-2014 03:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  A cusa team will have to win 25 to 27 games to get an at large bid. That's going to be really tough.

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And that's not true. Quantity of wins is not as important as quality wins. It has been repeated over and over again but simply put, the top teams in CUSA needs to win a couple of quality OOC games and not lose to the bottom level teams in the conference. Do that and CUSA can get multiple bids.

From the schedules I have seen, the opportunity to win some nice OOC games are there for the taking. These programs just have to go out there and win a couple of them.

(10-29-2014 03:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 03:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  A cusa team will have to win 25 to 27 games to get an at large bid. That's going to be really tough.

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And that's not true. Quantity of wins is not as important as quality wins. It has been repeated over and over again but simply put, the top teams in CUSA need to wins a couple of quality OOC games and not lose to the bottom level teams in the conference. Do that and CUSA can get multiple bids.

From the schedules I have seen, the opportunity to win some nice OOC games are there for the taking. These programs just have to go out there and win a couple of them.

Are you starting off your post saying Fitbud is wrong? That's unheard of!

(10-29-2014 03:23 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Didn't we have two 27 win teams left out last year? I'm not sure C-USA will ever be a multi-bid league again.

One had no eye grabbing wins and the other had an RPI in the 60's.

La Tech, WKU, Charlotte, UTEP, and UAB all have very at large worthy OOC schedules this year.

ODU's doesn't really have much in the way of big time opponents, but they do have a lot of solid opponents from top 12 conferences, so I doubt they get USM'd either if they take care of business OOC.

(10-29-2014 03:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  the top teams in CUSA need to wins a couple of quality OOC games and not lose to the bottom level teams in the conference. Do that and CUSA can get multiple bids.

It really is that simple.

(10-29-2014 04:23 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 03:23 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Didn't we have two 27 win teams left out last year? I'm not sure C-USA will ever be a multi-bid league again.

One had no eye grabbing wins and the other had an RPI in the 60's.

La Tech, WKU, Charlotte, UTEP, and UAB all have very at large worthy OOC schedules this year.

ODU's doesn't really have much in the way of big time opponents, but they do have a lot of solid opponents from top 12 conferences, so I doubt they get USM'd either if they take care of business OOC.

Exactly. I think CUSA can put 2 or 3 in the tournament this year.

Don't forget about MT's OOC schedule this year. We have Cincinnati, Ole Miss/Creighton, OK State, Murray State, Belmont, and Auburn highlighting ours. It should be a good slate.

I think if other teams have that kind of schedule - which I'm pretty sure they do - we should be able to have a great showing at the NCAAs.

(10-29-2014 04:58 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 03:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  the top teams in CUSA need to wins a couple of quality OOC games and not lose to the bottom level teams in the conference. Do that and CUSA can get multiple bids.

It really is that simple.

That's true. The top teams do need to pull off some big wins. However, we also can't have a full quarter of the conference hanging around 300+ RPI.

(10-29-2014 05:27 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  Don't forget about MT's OOC schedule this year. We have Cincinnati, Ole Miss/Creighton, OK State, Murray State, Belmont, and Auburn highlighting ours. It should be a good slate.

I think if other teams have that kind of schedule - which I'm pretty sure they do - we should be able to have a great showing at the NCAAs.

That's solid too. I didn't know who you guys had off the top of my head and didn't want to go through every team while I was at work.

Marshall has a nice schedule too, but I seriously doubt it'll matter for them.

Hope you guys get multiple bids, it will help with media negotiations. The big thing thou is that you've been hitting it out of the park with Football.

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No reason we should not have 2 teams dancing in tournament and possibly a third if we have a really good year....

(10-29-2014 03:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 03:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  A cusa team will have to win 25 to 27 games to get an at large bid. That's going to be really tough.

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And that's not true. Quantity of wins is not as important as quality wins. It has been repeated over and over again but simply put, the top teams in CUSA needs to win a couple of quality OOC games and not lose to the bottom level teams in the conference. Do that and CUSA can get multiple bids.

From the schedules I have seen, the opportunity to win some nice OOC games are there for the taking. These programs just have to go out there and win a couple of them.

I disagree. I think the last ten games will be more important than OOC games. Given that we beat eachother up at the end of the season, it's all the excuse they need to keep us a one bid league.

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I wouldn't be so sure of that. They left out a consensus top 25 SMU team last year based on a weak OOC. If the conference is not well respected as a whole, then OOC games become that more important. Granted, the threshold for +1 to +4/5 may differ some.

(11-02-2014 01:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 03:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 03:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  A cusa team will have to win 25 to 27 games to get an at large bid. That's going to be really tough.

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And that's not true. Quantity of wins is not as important as quality wins. It has been repeated over and over again but simply put, the top teams in CUSA needs to win a couple of quality OOC games and not lose to the bottom level teams in the conference. Do that and CUSA can get multiple bids.

From the schedules I have seen, the opportunity to win some nice OOC games are there for the taking. These programs just have to go out there and win a couple of them.

I disagree. I think the last ten games will be more important than OOC games. Given that we beat eachother up at the end of the season, it's all the excuse they need to keep us a one bid league.

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So what does the last ten games has to do with winning 25-27 games to get an at large bid? Going off your argument, the last ten games would be meaningless if a team hasn't won at least 15 games before that last ten game stretch.

Furthermore, if you have a stronger OOC SOS than your last 10 games the OOC schedule would be just as important if not more than your last ten games. Now, you do have to finish strong down the stretch no doubt. But if you haven't done anything before that the last ten games means squat from an at-large bid perspective.