http://sports.yahoo.com/news/probe-revea...--spt.html

Ouch. A more comprehensive investigation than previously conducted reveals pretty serious issues at UNC's African and Afro-American Studies department. 188 "lecture-classified paper" classes with minimal attendance requirements and fraudulent grading practices. These classes were created by the department to circumvent maximum independent study limitations. "In all, athletes made up about 47 percent of the enrollments in the 188 lecture-classified paper classes. Of that group, 51 percent were football players"

Yikes...

10 of 15 on the 2005 National champions

It's a clear case of academic frogs.

fortunately my credit card comes with frog protection.

The "Carolina Way" indeed.

I remember ecuacc4ever telling me that this was going to be huge. I kinda shrugged him aside... But lawd this is insane. 20 years of academic fraud. Incredible.

I am a soldier. In the Army we have a saying; If you ain't cheatin' you ain't trying! UNC TBTF!!!

(10-22-2014 07:16 PM)samandrea Wrote:  I am a soldier. In the Army we have a saying; If you ain't cheatin' you ain't trying! UNC TBTF!!!

Rubbin's racin'

(10-22-2014 06:35 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I remember ecuacc4ever telling me that this was going to be huge. I kinda shrugged him aside... But lawd this is insane. 20 years of academic fraud. Incredible.

That's funny because I remember our unc posters saying the opposite. (Not saying that ecuacc was one of those unc posters)

(10-22-2014 06:35 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I remember ecuacc4ever telling me that this was going to be huge. I kinda shrugged him aside... But lawd this is insane. 20 years of academic fraud. Incredible.

dUNCe has been THE dirtiest players in the game for at LEAST 20 years. You're just seeing what folks in NC have always know. It probably goes back well beyond that based on some of the clowns we saw come through their football program earlier than that. Lawrence Taylor comes to mind.

This is the kind of the ex-Big East schools are getting into. Hopefully it sheds some light on why Duke, State, ECU, Clemson and SC fans HATE UNC so much. It really wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't rub our faces in it saying they've do things by the book (the Carolina Way). We've always known (or had an idea) about this but there wasn't a mechanism to prove it until now in the age of information and social media. I'm very thankful for our Wolfpack friends that have finally brought this to light. It's way past time for them to pay. Most likely ALL of their championship banners should come down, starting with 1984.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/unc-academi...ncaaf.html

Quote:The level of academic fraud exposed is staggering: 3,100 students benefitted from the AFAM class scam; of that number, more than 47 percent were athletes – disproportionately high for the student population as a whole. And of that 47 percent, more than half were football players. Men's basketball made up 12 percent of the athlete population that was given gift grades.

Some simple math... 3100 x 0.47 were athletes x 0.12 of athletes were basketball players = 175 basketball players involved in this scam for the past 20 years. That averages out to 8 players PER YEAR on this program. Bring down the banners, NOW!

It seems so unnecessary too. There are thousands of brilliant kids on campus that could be paid to be tutors instead of having these lame classes. I just don't understand it. I highly doubt the 1993 team was affected, but I guess we'll see.

(10-23-2014 10:19 AM)esayem Wrote:  It seems so unnecessary too. There are thousands of brilliant kids on campus that could be paid to be tutors instead of having these lame classes. I just don't understand it. I highly doubt the 1993 team was affected, but I guess we'll see.

George Lynch was an African Studies major. So there's at least one from that roster.

This is bad. Worst case of athletic cheating and academic fraud I've ever heard of. And I thought it was bad prior to these new revelations. But if it's true, why did UNC hide this when they did their own internal investigation? If these faculty/staff members were they're for 20-30 years but your saying they only had these sham courses for the last couple years... I mean, you HAVE to know people are going to look into that who don't have UNC's image in mind.

The industrial scale cheating began in the late 80's when NC State's and Duke's basketball programs had re-eclipsed UNC's.

NC State and Duke had the two dominate programs from the end of WWII to the mid 1950's in the SoCon/ACC. After the point shaving scandal at UNC (mobsters moved from UNC to NC State and NC State Coach Case reported it to the SBI) UNC's program stunk from 61 to 67 but then Dean recruited Larry Miller and Duke shot itself in the head with the Adolph Rupp/Bucky Waters affair.

UNC had an equal program to NC State and MD for most of the 70's but in the late 70's through the mid 80's, UNC had established itself as the best overall program, but by the late 80's and early 90's UNC was again behind Duke and NC State.

UNC was able to use the UNC BOG to get Jim Valvano over a few players selling their shoes and to embarrass State for admitting Chris Washburn (who flunked out after 3 semesters - not given a degree mind you). NC State responded by deemphasizing their sports programs for a decade and the damage still shows. There was no way to get to K, so to out compete K, UNC basketball players that could not begin to graduate from UNC suddenly had their own classes.

Prior to this time, UNC cheated like many other programs - individual athletes getting help on individual classes, the $50 hand shakes, the job for a relative, etc.

Remember, UVa almost did not rejoin the group in 1954 because they were concerned about UNC's cheating in the past - it's in their faculty minutes. IIRC one magazine called Choo Choo Justice the highest paid professional football player in America, when he was at UNC not while he was in the NFL.

Dick Crum warned about this - he took over after Bill Dooley (a cheatn' rascal in the spirit of Jim Tatum)- Crum told the press that UNC wanted to be Harvard six days a week and Oklahoma on Saturday and that it just couldn't be done.

And that is the issue - you can't be Harvard and OU, but UNC wanted it both ways. You could hide the special curriculum for basketball players because there are so few, but once the football and baseball team came on board, it mushroomed.

If you have 15 kids on the basketball team, you have 12 players and 3 scrub walk-on that are good students. Perhaps half your real players should not be at the University so that is only 6 kids a year you have to figure out how to keep eligible.

They are balanced out by good students playing soccer, lacrosse, field hockey, swimming, etc., and you can aggregate the metrics and pat yourself on the back.

That can be controlled, but once it goes to 40-50 kids a year, you can't keep it under wraps.

(10-22-2014 06:35 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I remember ecuacc4ever telling me that this was going to be huge. I kinda shrugged him aside... But lawd this is insane. 20 years of academic fraud. Incredible.

That'll learn ya.

In a perfect world, the NCAA steps in and has North Carolina forfeit the '05 Men's Basketball Championship.

If, as blunder points out, George Lynch was in those classes back in '93, ut oh. And that 'ut oh' should (in theory) expand to the Women's B-ball title from '94.

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Of course, what the NCAA will likely do is put Campbell University's football program on probation.

(10-23-2014 11:49 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 06:35 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I remember ecuacc4ever telling me that this was going to be huge. I kinda shrugged him aside... But lawd this is insane. 20 years of academic fraud. Incredible.

That'll learn ya.

In a perfect world, the NCAA steps in and has North Carolina forfeit the '05 Men's Basketball Championship.

If, as blunder points out, George Lynch was in those classes back in '93, ut oh. And that 'ut oh' should (in theory) expand to the Women's B-ball title from '94.

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Of course, what the NCAA will likely do is put Campbell University's football program on probation.

And the UNC BOG will then take scholarships from ECU, NC State, APP State, and Charlotte.

(10-23-2014 11:49 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 06:35 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I remember ecuacc4ever telling me that this was going to be huge. I kinda shrugged him aside... But lawd this is insane. 20 years of academic fraud. Incredible.

That'll learn ya.

In a perfect world, the NCAA steps in and has North Carolina forfeit the '05 Men's Basketball Championship.

If, as blunder points out, George Lynch was in those classes back in '93, ut oh. And that 'ut oh' should (in theory) expand to the Women's B-ball title from '94.

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Of course, what the NCAA will likely do is put Campbell University's football program on probation.

The majors are right here. Not all players listed but George Lynch is definitely in there as an AFAM major.
http://www.carolinaonmymind.org/tar-heel...asketball/

And more from 1993 here.....
http://www.statefansnation.com/2012/07/m...-targeted/

Quote: Lynch (Sr): African American Studies
Reese (Jr): Communications (minor in African American Studies)
D. Williams (So): African American Studies
Phelps (Jr): African American Studies
Montross (Jr): Communications

It seems worth pointing out that in the first year a curriculum for African American Studies existed at UNC (1992) 4 of 5 members of the starting lineup of the National Championship Basketball team immediately majored/minored in the brand new curriculum with Dr. Nyang’oro at the helm. In just one year, an almost entire team happened to migrate to one particular, and brand new, curriculum?

Amazing.