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Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
At the game this week, the security staff refused to let me into the game with my plastic cone megaphone, similar to what is pictured.
They told me they were considered "artificial noisemakers" and not allowed in the stadium. I ran it by someone in the athletic department and told them I had been bringing it into games for years and had never been stopped before. They told me it was an American Athletic Conference rule that these sorts of "artificial noisemakers" were not allowed at conference games.
Anyone else think it's BS? Do you consider this an artificial noisemaker?
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 01:37 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: At the game this week, the security staff refused to let me into the game with my plastic cone megaphone, similar to what is pictured.
They told me they were considered "artificial noisemakers" and not allowed in the stadium. I ran it by someone in the athletic department and told them I had been bringing it into games for years and had never been stopped before. They told me it was an American Athletic Conference rule that these sorts of "artificial noisemakers" were not allowed at conference games.
Anyone else think it's BS? Do you consider this an artificial noisemaker?
No idea, but buy a program and then turn it in to a "megaphone." Problem solved.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
According to the NCAA it is.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
Seems like really twisting the intention of the rule. I would think air horns, whistles, bells, etc would be considered artificial noise not your own voice in a plastic tube.
I did see BYU students turned their phone flash lights on during the game. Genius! That would be awesome to see at ucf events on a field goal attempt. Waving the lights back and forth.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 01:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: According to the NCAA it is.
Link? It's not in any rulebook I've seen.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 01:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: According to the NCAA it is.
How does Mississippi State get away with a stadium full of cow bells?
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 01:53 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: Seems like really twisting the intention of the rule. I would think air horns, whistles, bells, etc would be considered artificial noise not your own voice in a plastic tube.
I did see BYU students turned their phone flash lights on during the game. Genius! That would be awesome to see at ucf events on a field goal attempt. Waving the lights back and forth.
I remember going to an ECU/UCF game at the Citrus Bowl, and there were several fans there with Air Horns. Man I hate those things.
Can Missy State no longer bring in the cow bells?
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
Yet MSU is allowed to have 70K fans ring cow bells.
Rules are rules. Except for the SEC.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
Sounds like BS to me. Like others said, your own voice is not an artificial noise maker. Probably a newb who takes his job too seriously.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
Technically it’s a device with the expressed design to make or amplify a loud noise so I can see why they would have a problem.
Does it seem picky or trivial….yes but if they permit one school to do something like this then it will allow other schools to take advantage of the gray area or lack of enforcement.
During the early days of the program, USF fans were allowed to bring in Bull Bells to Tampa Stadium and the first couple years at RJS. That made for some really loud environment during big games…and while it was a fun time I can see why it was an unfair home field advantage. When we joined C-USA in 2003 they started clamping down on enforcement and folks were ejected from games for sneaking bells into the game.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 01:54 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (10-21-2014 01:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: According to the NCAA it is.
How does Mississippi State get away with a stadium full of cow bells?
That's the first think I thought about. Those things were loud as crap on TV. I can't believe the SEC permits it.
(This post was last modified: 10-21-2014 02:16 PM by blunderbuss.)
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
That's a miniphone, lol. ECU is famous for the leftfield megaphones in baseball. And I know the school is going to allow us to continue. The only time we've been told no is during the 09 Greenville regional. Think you just ran into some newbs.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 02:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: Technically it’s a device with the expressed design to make or amplify a loud noise so I can see why they would have a problem.
Does it seem picky or trivial….yes but if they permit one school to do something like this then it will allow other schools to take advantage of the gray area or lack of enforcement.
During the early days of the program, USF fans were allowed to bring in Bull Bells to Tampa Stadium and the first couple years at RJS. That made for some really loud environment during big games…and while it was a fun time I can see why it was an unfair home field advantage. When we joined C-USA in 2003 they started clamping down on enforcement and folks were ejected from games for sneaking bells into the game.
I wouldn't be so pissed, but they sell the damn things IN THE STADIUM for crying out loud.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 02:19 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: (10-21-2014 02:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: Technically it’s a device with the expressed design to make or amplify a loud noise so I can see why they would have a problem.
Does it seem picky or trivial….yes but if they permit one school to do something like this then it will allow other schools to take advantage of the gray area or lack of enforcement.
During the early days of the program, USF fans were allowed to bring in Bull Bells to Tampa Stadium and the first couple years at RJS. That made for some really loud environment during big games…and while it was a fun time I can see why it was an unfair home field advantage. When we joined C-USA in 2003 they started clamping down on enforcement and folks were ejected from games for sneaking bells into the game.
I wouldn't be so pissed, but they sell the damn things IN THE STADIUM for crying out loud.
Next time just tell them that you bought it at the Stadium and that it doesn't work. So you're returning it as a defective item for replacement or your money back. They'll look at you oddly but, I'm sure they'll appreciate the genius behind your plot.
(This post was last modified: 10-21-2014 02:34 PM by USFRamenu.)
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 02:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: (10-21-2014 01:54 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (10-21-2014 01:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: According to the NCAA it is.
How does Mississippi State get away with a stadium full of cow bells?
That's the first think I thought about. Those things were loud as crap on TV. I can't believe the SEC permits it.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-etiquette
They were banned at one time, but the SEC voted to allow them at home games, provided they didn't interfere with the visiting teams' offensive signals.
The link above details a request by the AD to use proper decorum with those artificial noisemakers.
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 02:36 PM)oldtiger Wrote: (10-21-2014 02:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: (10-21-2014 01:54 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (10-21-2014 01:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: According to the NCAA it is.
How does Mississippi State get away with a stadium full of cow bells?
That's the first think I thought about. Those things were loud as crap on TV. I can't believe the SEC permits it.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-etiquette
They were banned at one time, but the SEC voted to allow them at home games, provided they didn't interfere with the visiting teams' offensive signals.
The link above details a request by the AD to use proper decorum with those artificial noisemakers.
That's interesting, in that it implies that the officials calling the games at the Mississippi State games are SEC officials. If they played Notre Dame, and to level the playing field ND insisted that the visiting team supplies the officiating crew, that crew could call penalties. Correct?
EDIT: What about bowl games? Do they bring them to bowl games?
(This post was last modified: 10-21-2014 02:56 PM by SublimeKnight.)
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 02:54 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote: (10-21-2014 02:36 PM)oldtiger Wrote: (10-21-2014 02:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: (10-21-2014 01:54 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (10-21-2014 01:52 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: According to the NCAA it is.
How does Mississippi State get away with a stadium full of cow bells?
That's the first think I thought about. Those things were loud as crap on TV. I can't believe the SEC permits it.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-etiquette
They were banned at one time, but the SEC voted to allow them at home games, provided they didn't interfere with the visiting teams' offensive signals.
The link above details a request by the AD to use proper decorum with those artificial noisemakers.
That's interesting, in that it implies that the officials calling the games at the Mississippi State games are SEC officials. If they played Notre Dame, and to level the playing field ND insisted that the visiting team supplies the officiating crew, that crew could call penalties. Correct?
EDIT: What about bowl games? Do they bring them to bowl games?
Well, they brought/bring them everywhere, even during the ban; it just wasn't as obvious. You could still hear them scattered throughout the stadiums on TV.
I don't know what it's like at all stadiums, but at the LB, you can sneak a dozen 5ths of Jack Daniels, a case of beer, etc in your clothing, but you can't get 1 small folding umbrella past the eagle eye guys at the gates. :)
It's amazing what they put emphasis on.
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Re: RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 01:37 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: At the game this week, the security staff refused to let me into the game with my plastic cone megaphone, similar to what is pictured.
They told me they were considered "artificial noisemakers" and not allowed in the stadium. I ran it by someone in the athletic department and told them I had been bringing it into games for years and had never been stopped before. They told me it was an American Athletic Conference rule that these sorts of "artificial noisemakers" were not allowed at conference games.
Anyone else think it's BS? Do you consider this an artificial noisemaker?
You take a megaphone to the game. Am I the only one that snickered
Are you 12 years old or something?
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RE: Need a ruling - are megaphones "artificial noisemakers?"
(10-21-2014 02:19 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: (10-21-2014 02:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote: Technically it’s a device with the expressed design to make or amplify a loud noise so I can see why they would have a problem.
Does it seem picky or trivial….yes but if they permit one school to do something like this then it will allow other schools to take advantage of the gray area or lack of enforcement.
During the early days of the program, USF fans were allowed to bring in Bull Bells to Tampa Stadium and the first couple years at RJS. That made for some really loud environment during big games…and while it was a fun time I can see why it was an unfair home field advantage. When we joined C-USA in 2003 they started clamping down on enforcement and folks were ejected from games for sneaking bells into the game.
I wouldn't be so pissed, but they sell the damn things IN THE STADIUM for crying out loud.
Ok...now I see why you are pissed. That is some crazy crap if they are selling them at the stadium and then telling you can't bring them in. Obviously someone missed the memo...
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