(10-22-2014 09:11 AM)MU42 Wrote:  FAU will bring a crowd about the size of my family, which at this time is 3 (me, my wife, and daughter). Not a bash against them, but I bet few if any ppl graduate from FAU and move to Ohio, WV, or Kentucky area. Also no one wants to travel from sunny Florida to WV in the fall or winter. Just saying.

Hey I think it's already snowing up at Snowshoe, they could come up for a game and give skiing a try lol.

(10-22-2014 05:16 AM)HD76 Wrote:  I think what they want to hear Mike is a fan base that lives up to its reputation. A group of fans that are humble, welcoming, and carry the game of football in its proper prospective - as a GAME.

We could be right and fair by saying that we have a complete football team that is greatly favored for a reason. We are fortunate to have them. Hope for a good game and good luck this Saturday. Those of you coming up have a safe trip and stop by our tailgate for some food and a cold beverage.

All of this chest thumping and bravado aggravates Marshall fans to death when WVU fans do this to us... Just telling us the "truth about how much better they are than us." We sound just like them. As a matter of fact, we have one fan on here that thinks he is the only one in the world that has it all figured out. Winning always brings out the crazies and it appears they all gather on sports message boards. jmo.

In the last year and half Ive only said it to one school that we would beat them convincingly and that started the summer of 2013. That was telling ECU they wouldn't leave Huntington with a win last year and that it would be a 14 point loss or more.

Do I know what will happen Sat, no, do I think this game will go like the last 6, yes. Little Miami was an anomaly, their QB threw 2 passes in the endzone in tripe coverage that should have never been thrown. That their receivers just happen to come down with.

Ive tried not to sound like a jerk and be reasonable by just saying we have more weapons than anyone can cover. If that is a knee jerk reaction and sounds like Im chest thumping then I might as well leave this board now.

(10-21-2014 09:46 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-21-2014 07:32 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  Isn't this the Marshall University that needed a last second FG to beat FAU last season? I know that was last year and Marshall is another animal this year, especially at home, but God y'all have become some pompous jerks. Picking up right where ECU left off IMHO. I mean, when Herd24 is being one of the more reasonable fans, that's when you know...

Marshall has an 11 game winning streak at home as we speak. The last time they lost at home was Oct 27th, 2012.

I reread my posts and I don't see where I was being disrespectful or pompous... I merely responded to the OP with what I thought the end result would be. But I also said in the same post that if we didn't come to play that you all had the talent to kick us in the nuts and punch us in the mouth...

Personally, I am not worried much about Cato. i think FAU can (and may) contain him. We have done it once. I am more worried about rushing defense, which has not stopped many people this season. Also, FAU can put points on the board, unlike FIU, for example. In bunches. We have proven that.

I do not think this is going to end 63-10 or 56-10 as someone here suggested. Highly unlikely. 45-24 is more likely. FAU may well put up 450 yards on Marshall (while allowing 600 or more). So, this is going to be an interesting game to watch from the standpoint of offensive play. Whether or not this game will remain competitive late - depends on whether FAU can get over our early game blues. For some reason, game after game, we fall behind early and then have to make a concerted effort to get back. This happened against Wyoming, UTSA, WKU, and FIU (to a certain extent). Only in one game (against Tulsa) did we start well and ended up running them over. So, if FAU manages to stay within 14 at the half, this game will have a competitive ending.

I feel like grown men on a sports forum can talk to each other without singing cumbaya... its not like marshall has lost 3 games and barely scraping by and fans are predicting 30 point wins... Marshall is a legit top 15 team, and the fans are acting like any other top 15 teams fanbase would. They are confident in their team. When you predict 56-14 type wins and are serious, you better thank the football gods because thats not gonna happen very often that you have a team capable of such wins.

(10-22-2014 12:15 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  I feel like grown men on a sports forum can talk to each other without singing cumbaya... its not like marshall has lost 3 games and barely scraping by and fans are predicting 30 point wins... Marshall is a legit top 15 team, and the fans are acting like any other top 15 teams fanbase would. They are confident in their team. When you predict 56-14 type wins and are serious, you better thank the football gods because thats not gonna happen very often that you have a team capable of such wins.

Are you sure Marshall is a "legit top 15 team"? How would you know? Marshall is an excellent team and they may well finish in top 15 (or even top 10). But they will not have any victories against any top 15 teams to show how they are a LEGIT top 15 team. Right now, about 30 teams would like to make that statement. But they can not all be top 15. What about WVU, for example? Can Marshall guarantee that they are better than WVU?

(10-22-2014 12:12 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Personally, I am not worried much about Cato. i think FAU can (and may) contain him. We have done it once. I am more worried about rushing defense, which has not stopped many people this season. Also, FAU can put points on the board, unlike FIU, for example. In bunches. We have proven that.

I do not think this is going to end 63-10 or 56-10 as someone here suggested. Highly unlikely. 45-24 is more likely. FAU may well put up 450 yards on Marshall (while allowing 600 or more). So, this is going to be an interesting game to watch from the standpoint of offensive play. Whether or not this game will remain competitive late - depends on whether FAU can get over our early game blues. For some reason, game after game, we fall behind early and then have to make a concerted effort to get back. This happened against Wyoming, UTSA, WKU, and FIU (to a certain extent). Only in one game (against Tulsa) did we start well and ended up running them over. So, if FAU manages to stay within 14 at the half, this game will have a competitive ending.

I respect your opinion. However i disagree. I do not see FAU scoring more than 14 in this one. And Marshall can easily get over 50. FAU can score against soft defenses like WKU, but how does it do against nebraska? Against FIU? Against wyoming? Out of All 3 of those, I believe marshall has a better defense.

That being said. Come up and enjoy a good game and atmosphere. Hopefully a few owl fans make the trip.

(10-22-2014 12:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:15 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  I feel like grown men on a sports forum can talk to each other without singing cumbaya... its not like marshall has lost 3 games and barely scraping by and fans are predicting 30 point wins... Marshall is a legit top 15 team, and the fans are acting like any other top 15 teams fanbase would. They are confident in their team. When you predict 56-14 type wins and are serious, you better thank the football gods because thats not gonna happen very often that you have a team capable of such wins.

Are you sure Marshall is a "legit top 15 team"? How would you know? Marshall is an excellent team and they may well finish in top 15 (or even top 10). But they will not have any victories against any top 15 teams to show how they are a LEGIT top 15 team. Right now, about 30 teams would like to make that statement. But they can not all be top 15. What about WVU, for example? Can Marshall guarantee that they are better than WVU?

I think WVU is a good offensive football team. I do not think they are as complete as marshall however, and i believe MU would win that game this season at home, probably be a 3 point game either way in morgantown.

But yes. I believe Marshall, based on the team in all phases and how it performs, and how it does the little things, compared to other top teams, it is a fair assessment to say is a top 15 team. One doesn't have to beat a top 15 team to be one, when not given an opportunity. Marshall very well may get that opportunity in the access bowl. That being said, FAU offers some common opponents to compare to. 47-0 and 55-7 vs nebraska and bama. I think we do just as good in that regard and let us know what you think after we play the gamr based on what you see.

(10-22-2014 12:21 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:12 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Personally, I am not worried much about Cato. i think FAU can (and may) contain him. We have done it once. I am more worried about rushing defense, which has not stopped many people this season. Also, FAU can put points on the board, unlike FIU, for example. In bunches. We have proven that.

I do not think this is going to end 63-10 or 56-10 as someone here suggested. Highly unlikely. 45-24 is more likely. FAU may well put up 450 yards on Marshall (while allowing 600 or more). So, this is going to be an interesting game to watch from the standpoint of offensive play. Whether or not this game will remain competitive late - depends on whether FAU can get over our early game blues. For some reason, game after game, we fall behind early and then have to make a concerted effort to get back. This happened against Wyoming, UTSA, WKU, and FIU (to a certain extent). Only in one game (against Tulsa) did we start well and ended up running them over. So, if FAU manages to stay within 14 at the half, this game will have a competitive ending.

I respect your opinion. However i disagree. I do not see FAU scoring more than 14 in this one. And Marshall can easily get over 50. FAU can score against soft defenses like WKU, but how does it do against nebraska? Against FIU? Against wyoming? Out of All 3 of those, I believe marshall has a better defense.

That being said. Come up and enjoy a good game and atmosphere. Hopefully a few owl fans make the trip.

FAU did score 41 against UTSA. And Nebraska was a tough sledding for us as we lost our QB midway through the second quarter.

If we don't have three red zone turnovers, like we did against FIU, the Owls will score quite a bit. A much weaker FIU offense scored 13 on Marshall. FAU could score twice that much.

I doubt Marshall can score over 50 on even our soft defense. But that is why they actually play the games. Good luck. let's hope both teams avoid heavy injuries.

(10-22-2014 12:28 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:21 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:12 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Personally, I am not worried much about Cato. i think FAU can (and may) contain him. We have done it once. I am more worried about rushing defense, which has not stopped many people this season. Also, FAU can put points on the board, unlike FIU, for example. In bunches. We have proven that.

I do not think this is going to end 63-10 or 56-10 as someone here suggested. Highly unlikely. 45-24 is more likely. FAU may well put up 450 yards on Marshall (while allowing 600 or more). So, this is going to be an interesting game to watch from the standpoint of offensive play. Whether or not this game will remain competitive late - depends on whether FAU can get over our early game blues. For some reason, game after game, we fall behind early and then have to make a concerted effort to get back. This happened against Wyoming, UTSA, WKU, and FIU (to a certain extent). Only in one game (against Tulsa) did we start well and ended up running them over. So, if FAU manages to stay within 14 at the half, this game will have a competitive ending.

I respect your opinion. However i disagree. I do not see FAU scoring more than 14 in this one. And Marshall can easily get over 50. FAU can score against soft defenses like WKU, but how does it do against nebraska? Against FIU? Against wyoming? Out of All 3 of those, I believe marshall has a better defense.

That being said. Come up and enjoy a good game and atmosphere. Hopefully a few owl fans make the trip.

FAU did score 41 against UTSA. And Nebraska was a tough sledding for us as we lost our QB midway through the second quarter.

If we don't have three red zone turnovers, like we did against FIU, the Owls will score quite a bit. A much weaker FIU offense scored 13 on Marshall. FAU could score twice that much.

I doubt Marshall can score over 50 on even our soft defense. But that is why they actually play the games. Good luck. let's hope both teams avoid heavy injuries.

That soft FIU offense put 38 on you.

True 13. 7 vs 1st and 2nd string however. Again, you under estimate our defense. But thats your right. We will see who is correct in a few days. If i am wrong, ill be the first to admit it.

(10-22-2014 12:30 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:28 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:21 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:12 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Personally, I am not worried much about Cato. i think FAU can (and may) contain him. We have done it once. I am more worried about rushing defense, which has not stopped many people this season. Also, FAU can put points on the board, unlike FIU, for example. In bunches. We have proven that.

I do not think this is going to end 63-10 or 56-10 as someone here suggested. Highly unlikely. 45-24 is more likely. FAU may well put up 450 yards on Marshall (while allowing 600 or more). So, this is going to be an interesting game to watch from the standpoint of offensive play. Whether or not this game will remain competitive late - depends on whether FAU can get over our early game blues. For some reason, game after game, we fall behind early and then have to make a concerted effort to get back. This happened against Wyoming, UTSA, WKU, and FIU (to a certain extent). Only in one game (against Tulsa) did we start well and ended up running them over. So, if FAU manages to stay within 14 at the half, this game will have a competitive ending.

I respect your opinion. However i disagree. I do not see FAU scoring more than 14 in this one. And Marshall can easily get over 50. FAU can score against soft defenses like WKU, but how does it do against nebraska? Against FIU? Against wyoming? Out of All 3 of those, I believe marshall has a better defense.

That being said. Come up and enjoy a good game and atmosphere. Hopefully a few owl fans make the trip.

FAU did score 41 against UTSA. And Nebraska was a tough sledding for us as we lost our QB midway through the second quarter.

If we don't have three red zone turnovers, like we did against FIU, the Owls will score quite a bit. A much weaker FIU offense scored 13 on Marshall. FAU could score twice that much.

I doubt Marshall can score over 50 on even our soft defense. But that is why they actually play the games. Good luck. let's hope both teams avoid heavy injuries.

That soft FIU offense put 38 on you.

True 13. 7 vs 1st and 2nd string however. Again, you under estimate our defense. But thats your right. We will see who is correct in a few days. If i am wrong, ill be the first to admit it.

The FIU score does not tell the story. We out played them in everything expect turnovers we will that game 99 out of a 100 we turned the ball over 3 times inside their 20 we beat our selfs. FIU couldn't move the ball for most of that game they had a 100 yard finale return and a garbage touchdown at the end.

(10-22-2014 02:12 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:30 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:28 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:21 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:12 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Personally, I am not worried much about Cato. i think FAU can (and may) contain him. We have done it once. I am more worried about rushing defense, which has not stopped many people this season. Also, FAU can put points on the board, unlike FIU, for example. In bunches. We have proven that.

I do not think this is going to end 63-10 or 56-10 as someone here suggested. Highly unlikely. 45-24 is more likely. FAU may well put up 450 yards on Marshall (while allowing 600 or more). So, this is going to be an interesting game to watch from the standpoint of offensive play. Whether or not this game will remain competitive late - depends on whether FAU can get over our early game blues. For some reason, game after game, we fall behind early and then have to make a concerted effort to get back. This happened against Wyoming, UTSA, WKU, and FIU (to a certain extent). Only in one game (against Tulsa) did we start well and ended up running them over. So, if FAU manages to stay within 14 at the half, this game will have a competitive ending.

I respect your opinion. However i disagree. I do not see FAU scoring more than 14 in this one. And Marshall can easily get over 50. FAU can score against soft defenses like WKU, but how does it do against nebraska? Against FIU? Against wyoming? Out of All 3 of those, I believe marshall has a better defense.

That being said. Come up and enjoy a good game and atmosphere. Hopefully a few owl fans make the trip.

FAU did score 41 against UTSA. And Nebraska was a tough sledding for us as we lost our QB midway through the second quarter.

If we don't have three red zone turnovers, like we did against FIU, the Owls will score quite a bit. A much weaker FIU offense scored 13 on Marshall. FAU could score twice that much.

I doubt Marshall can score over 50 on even our soft defense. But that is why they actually play the games. Good luck. let's hope both teams avoid heavy injuries.

That soft FIU offense put 38 on you.

True 13. 7 vs 1st and 2nd string however. Again, you under estimate our defense. But thats your right. We will see who is correct in a few days. If i am wrong, ill be the first to admit it.

The FIU score does not tell the story. We out played them in everything expect turnovers we will that game 99 out of a 100 we turned the ball over 3 times inside their 20 we beat our selfs. FIU couldn't move the ball for most of that game they had a 100 yard finale return and a garbage touchdown at the end.

I'm so sick of hearing this... No, FIU beat you. Just like Middle, Ohio, and Rice beat us last year. Good teams force turnovers. Good teams don't turn the ball over 3 time inside the 10 when the game is on the line...If we lose to you, it will be because you beat us. It will be because you forced mistakes or got us to make bad decisions.

(10-22-2014 12:12 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  I do not think this is going to end 63-10 or 56-10 as someone here suggested. Highly unlikely. 45-24 is more likely. FAU may well put up 450 yards on Marshall (while allowing 600 or more). So, this is going to be an interesting game to watch from the standpoint of offensive play.

Marshall hasn't give up 450 yards in a single game this season. The most The Herd has give up was against Little Miami with 417. The closet anyone else has come was FIU with 385.

Because of our offense and the production it puts out our defense doesn't get the love from anyone. But our defense has only give up 20 or more points twice this year, to Little Miami with 27 and to MTSU with 24. Our defense is allowing 16.6 points per game. Our 1st team defense is allowing 8.2 points per game if you want to put that in perspective.

(10-22-2014 12:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Are you sure Marshall is a "legit top 15 team"? How would you know? Marshall is an excellent team and they may well finish in top 15 (or even top 10). But they will not have any victories against any top 15 teams to show how they are a LEGIT top 15 team. Right now, about 30 teams would like to make that statement. But they can not all be top 15. What about WVU, for example? Can Marshall guarantee that they are better than WVU?

Marshall is a more complete team than the Who, we have more offensive WRs, TEs that can catch, in Holgerson's offense he doesn't use TEs and a better backfield. You take Kevin White out of their receiving core and they suck.

I know for a fact Marshall is a better and more complete team than #18 ECU and #15 Arizona.

I would line this Marshall team up with anyone in the country. Would we win them all, no. Would we be embarrassed at all, maybe in one or two games. We would go toe to toe with almost anyone. I haven't said that about a Marshall team since 1999.

(10-21-2014 03:26 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(10-21-2014 03:03 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

Yeah...Okay Bub...

I just don't see how being undefeated gives fans the right to belittle others just because they're fans of lesser teams. Don't Marshall fans hate that when WVU and other P5 programs do that to 'em? If so, then why do it to others?

Yeah, I'm being a little oversensitive. But every single fan base we've played the past year but one said they would beat us by 30-50 points, and I'm just tired of it. I saw WKU fans say it, UTSA fans, Wyoming fans, Marshall fans last year, and so on and so forth. Yet, God forbid a P5 program ever make such prediction against their team like that, what disrespect! It's gotten to the point where one cannot even speak his mind about the likely result of Marshall opening a can on FAU without being belittled right away. I know the final score won't go in our favor, but that doesn't make my opinions any less valuable than yours, nor does it legitimize any reasoning for disrespecting other fans.

Well, I wasn't trying to belittle you...my apologies for not being clear. What I should have said was "agree to disagree"..

But you also have to see the other side of it. Week after week after week teams have said "you won't put 40+ up on us" or you've not played a defense like ours...and look at the result. I think that's why you get that attitude from some.

What I said was I thought that it would be a 28 pt game BUT (notice the BUT)...if we didn't come to play FAU has the talent to and punch us in the mouth.

(10-22-2014 02:33 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

(10-21-2014 03:26 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(10-21-2014 03:03 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

Yeah...Okay Bub...

I just don't see how being undefeated gives fans the right to belittle others just because they're fans of lesser teams. Don't Marshall fans hate that when WVU and other P5 programs do that to 'em? If so, then why do it to others?

Yeah, I'm being a little oversensitive. But every single fan base we've played the past year but one said they would beat us by 30-50 points, and I'm just tired of it. I saw WKU fans say it, UTSA fans, Wyoming fans, Marshall fans last year, and so on and so forth. Yet, God forbid a P5 program ever make such prediction against their team like that, what disrespect! It's gotten to the point where one cannot even speak his mind about the likely result of Marshall opening a can on FAU without being belittled right away. I know the final score won't go in our favor, but that doesn't make my opinions any less valuable than yours, nor does it legitimize any reasoning for disrespecting other fans.

Again, no one was trying to belittle you in a thread an FAU fan started. Most here stated the obvious. That Marshall has more weapons that FAU can cover right now. Will it always be that way, probably not. If you are going to be pissed at anyone be pissed at goliath74 the FAU fan that started this thread.

You better grow some thick skin if you are going to stick around here. And you talk about maybe being over sensitive, because ppl talking about you getting beat by 30-50 points. In your 4 losses you have lost by an avg of 29 points. Nebraska 55-7, Alabama 41-0, Wyoming 20-19 and FIU 28-10....That's 117 points divided by 4 and it comes to 29.25.

(10-22-2014 02:33 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

(10-21-2014 03:26 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(10-21-2014 03:03 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

Yeah...Okay Bub...

I just don't see how being undefeated gives fans the right to belittle others just because they're fans of lesser teams. Don't Marshall fans hate that when WVU and other P5 programs do that to 'em? If so, then why do it to others?

Yeah, I'm being a little oversensitive. But every single fan base we've played the past year but one said they would beat us by 30-50 points, and I'm just tired of it. I saw WKU fans say it, UTSA fans, Wyoming fans, Marshall fans last year, and so on and so forth. Yet, God forbid a P5 program ever make such prediction against their team like that, what disrespect! It's gotten to the point where one cannot even speak his mind about the likely result of Marshall opening a can on FAU without being belittled right away. I know the final score won't go in our favor, but that doesn't make my opinions any less valuable than yours, nor does it legitimize any reasoning for disrespecting other fans.

It is not disrespecting someone to tell them they will lose by 30 or 40 pts in a football game. It would be disrespextful to say something like "FAU is such a terrible football team, and they have crappy attendance. It is a ****** school with bad fans. I dont know why they are division 1". That would be a stupid disrespectful comment. Us saying we will win by 40, is not disrespecting FAU, it is respecting how good Marshall is. You ptobably have a bowl team, ? or close to it. No disrespext intended

(10-21-2014 10:53 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, will we put a fight or be another stepping stone on Marshall's road to 13-0?

There is optimism in the FAU ranks that we can lock Cato down for a while, at least. FAU defense hopes to contain Cato as it is not likely to totally stop him.

I think you should try stopping Johnson... how'd that work for FIU?

(10-22-2014 08:03 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I think you should try stopping Johnson... how'd that work for FIU?

Johnson is a bowling ball and the more contact you give him the harder he runs. SI just done a piece on Devon Johnson, Cato isn't the only one receiving attention on this team.

You don't see to many 6'1 248 RBs that can shoot the gaps and keep running. I still think he is a Mike Alstott (Tampa Bay 96-07) clone. Alstott was also 6'1 248.

SI: Converted RB Devon Johnson