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Toledo 3-0
10/25 vs Massachusetts
11/4 @ Kent State
11/11 @ N Illinois
11/19 vs Bowling Green
11/28 @ EMU

Toledo overlooks Kent St. in a classic trap game with NIU ahead on the schedule. Kent St. gets fired up to play televised Tuesday night game and stuns the Rockets. Toledo goes on the road and gets beat by NIU. Bowling Green won't be a gimme either.


Northern Illinois 2-1
10/25 @ E. Michigan
11/5 @ Ball St.
11/11 vs. Toledo
11/18 @ Ohio
11/28 @ W. Mich.

The Huskies are reeling a bit, and eeking out wins. With 4 straight weekday games in November, this really messes with their heads. They finish the year squeaking by Toledo at home, but drop road games at WMU and at Ball St.


Central Michigan 2-2
10/25 @ Buffalo
11/1 @ E. Michigan
11/15 vs. Miami (OH)
11/22 vs. W Michigan

CMU could conceivably lose out the way this sets up. The felon becomes a distraction, CMU loses to Buffalo on the road, WMU goes to Mt. P and puts the final stamp on Enos. The Chips go 6-6 (again), don't receive a bowl bid, but Enos gets another extension through 2022.

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The Broncos win out.

Well, IF we were to win out (which is NOT going to happen)...

- Toledo losing to NIU and BGSU or Kent (2 L)

That's all we'd need. We'd have 1 Loss, NIU would then have 2L, Toledo would have 2L -- and us beating CMU -- would give them 3L. No need for NIU to lose another one.

Our real problem is that since we lost to Toledo, we'd need them to lose *2* games -- which is decently possible.

However, a much bigger longshot is us winning out the rest of the way. We won't. At all.

- BGSU's QB was mildly hurt -- that really helped us win. Not enough of an excuse for them to only score 14 pts -- but enough to keep them out of rhythm, especially with our O eating up clock. I have to be fair: BGSU's O was NOT great -- while yes, our D stepped up.

- That's what really won it for us. We can't expect that against good offensive teams (NIU, @CMU) -- or even @Miami who can get into rhythm to put pts on the board.

We'll lose 2 more games (most likely these):
@CMU
NIU

We'll win 1 more game:
EMU

We could lose either of these games, but if we are in fact rolling, we very well may go 2-0:
@Miami
Ohio

IMO, of the remaining 5 games: 3-2 at best (7-5 overall) -- which isn't a longshot. But rising about that? It becomes a longshot going 4-1 or 5-0 the rest of the way (8-4, 9-3).

(10-20-2014 01:27 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  However, a much bigger longshot is us winning out the rest of the way. We won't. At all.

I'm not saying we "should" win out, but it's not impossible if we play the way we did against BGSU.

I think CMU is the hardest game left on our schedule, NIU being a close second. By then, NIU may have very little to play for so you just never know. But like you said, none of this matters if Toledo doesn't lose 2 games though.

Todd, your wrong on NIU. NIU was floundering at the end of last year with Mr. Jet Sweep. Lynch was one of those players like Tebow, LeFevour, and Manziel. He could make up for a lot of holes in the team. Drew Hare is in a league with Sprague at OU, whom I rate as the worst QB in the MAC. If you watched the NIU CMU game you saw how far they've fallen. UT will destroy them, and I think we will win as well.

As for CMU I think it will come down to emotion. Which team is playing for what (bowl bid, chance for a MAC West title, etc.). Pretty similar teams although I think the Chimps have too many fat, slow, guys.

Lastly, your right that Knapke being hurt slowed BUGS down. But he got hurt because freshmen DE Andre Turner blew him up. After that they just kept abusing him with hits. So yeah, he got hurt, but he got hurt because their Oline couldn't contain our pass rush, which at this point is still a work in progress.

Quote:I'm not saying we "should" win out, but it's not impossible if we play the way we did against BGSU.

It's not impossible, no. The MAC is wacky this year. However, given that, and it being a rebuilding/gelling year for us -- we Also can't count on consistency. Look at the BSU game, tale of two halves. Against BGSU, our D was impressive -- but to be honest, our O was not. Maybe BGSU's D really stepped up because of their mildly aching QB (that definitely helped us)? Dunno. And it's also a BGSU team that got DESTROYED by W Kentucky, yet beat Indiana. I can say we COULD beat any team -- but except for EMU, we COULD lose to any team. I don't think "we're there" quite yet.

Quote:I think CMU is the hardest game left on our schedule, NIU being a close second.

I agree. Mainly because it's @CMU -- and when CMU brings their A game, they can beat anyone in the MAC -- on any field, this year.

Quote:By then, NIU may have very little to play for so you just never know.

Oh, NIU will most likely have something to play for. :) They're right in the thick of it, Hare has some confidence back, and they know how to score like a senior in a frat house. The only way I see them being "blah" about the game is if they lose to Toledo & Ohio right before us and lose all steam. I can't expect that to happen.

Quote:But like you said, none of this matters if Toledo doesn't lose 2 games though.

Yeah. I think Toledo will lose 1 game -- very possibly 2 (50/50 shot, IMO).

I think our goal (as fans looking in) would be to go 3-2 the rest of the way, 7-5, and go bowling. That would be a BIG season victory.

ANALOGY OF OUR REMAINING GAMES RECORD - TO SUCCESS IN A NIGHT-TIME OUTING, PICKING UP GIRLS:
0-5 : I soil myself, and ridiculous attempts at large obese women fail to convert because of it (ain't going to happen)
1-4 : I get over-intoxicated and end up being Kermit to a Piggy (most likely Not Happening)
2-3 : The ball doesn't bounce my way so well, but I get #s from OK looking gal(s) (most likely scenario)
3-2 : Good opportunities, and I capitalize on them moderately well. Kiss & # exchange with a Cute Gal (decently possible)
4-1 : The Bar Ratio is Golden. I get multiple #s from girls out of my league, and take one home (not going to happen; but hey, it has happened before)
5-0 : The Bar Ratio is Golden. I somehow have two Hot Babes vying for me and I have to choose one to take home (ain't going to happen)

Todd is either a huge stud or he's been reading too many Penthouse forums. Hey Todd, you ever get it with an amputee? (This one liner can only be understood by Seinfeld fans, or people who read Penthouse in the 80's).

(10-20-2014 02:46 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd, your wrong on NIU. NIU was floundering at the end of last year with Mr. Jet Sweep. Lynch was one of those players like Tebow, LeFevour, and Manziel. He could make up for a lot of holes in the team. Drew Hare is in a league with Sprague at OU, whom I rate as the worst QB in the MAC. If you watched the NIU CMU game you saw how far they've fallen. UT will destroy them, and I think we will win as well.

As for CMU I think it will come down to emotion. Which team is playing for what (bowl bid, chance for a MAC West title, etc.). Pretty similar teams although I think the Chimps have too many fat, slow, guys.

Lastly, your right that Knapke being hurt slowed BUGS down. But he got hurt because freshmen DE Andre Turner blew him up. After that they just kept abusing him with hits. So yeah, he got hurt, but he got hurt because their Oline couldn't contain our pass rush, which at this point is still a work in progress.

Jesus dude, NIU is 5-2 with a win over Northwestern. Also, NIU has been playing 4 November weeknight games for a long time now. Not sure how that's going to mess with their head. Yeesh, lose a home game for the first time in 5 years and all of a sudden you suck. Rough crowd.

As for Hare:

He's completing 61% of his passes, for 1182 yards (8.2 Y/A), with 11 TDs and only 1 INT.

He's also rushed 63 times for 415 yards (6.6 YPC), and 4 TDs.

If that's the worst QB in the MAC, we have a hell of a league.

Hare blows. You know it, I know it, even weak sauce Anthony Maddie knows it.

When I saw you clowns yapping about leaving the MAC again I knew your program was heading south again.

Quote:If you watched the NIU CMU game you saw how far they've fallen. UT will destroy them, and I think we will win as well.

Again, WOW. I think you're making us out to be the hot stud at the bar, and NIU being the obese gal in the corner eating chocolate cake. I'm excited about the good possibilities that can be had this year, but I'm not That tipsy on Bronco Beer yet. :) Yes, NIU looked BAD against Kent & CMU. They rebounded against Miami -- well, their Offense did, so you can't trash Hare -- he performed Very Well. Their D is in question, but at the same time, Miami has the ability to score points. Yes, NIU has improvement ahead of them. But to say Toledo will Destroy them @NIU, and we should mark it down as a W as well? Whoah! :)

Quote:As for Hare:

He's completing 61% of his passes, for 1182 yards (8.2 Y/A), with 11 TDs and only 1 INT.

He's also rushed 63 times for 415 yards (6.6 YPC), and 4 TDs.

Very true. Hare looked pretty sub-par against Kent & CMU, but he has lit things on fire against others. He's one of the better QBs in the MAC -- but he does have the ability to play sub-par, which is what I think Dip was focusing on too much. I think Hare will have his sh!t together & more solidified and consistent by the end of the year -- unfortunately, when we play them.

Quote:Todd is either a huge stud or he's been reading too many Penthouse forums. Hey Todd, you ever get it with an amputee?

I don't think I'm promoting myself as a Stud when I say that our most realistic but promising scenario combo (going 3-2) would me getting a Cute gal's # and a kiss. :) Certainly wouldn't make Penthouse forums! More like something from a teeny-bopper magazine. :)

Oh, 4-1 and 5-0? Yeah, see -- I DON'T think that will happen. :) Not impossible -- I've had my moments, but even going out with charged testosterone would be a Very small chance of raking those last two in.

No, no amputees. However, there is a story back in the WMU days where a gal had something somewhat comparable to that -- not getting into it -- but No, Nothing Happened.

Better QBs than Hare.
Pooper Rush
Any UT QB
Milas
Licata
Flapple or whatever his name is
Reardon
Both BG QBs
Terrel
Hendrix
Pohl
Bell

It's a toss up between Hare and Sprague

Todd, Hare dinked and dunked for 186 yards passing against the worst pass defense I the league

(10-20-2014 03:40 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd, Hare dinked and dunked for 186 yards passing against the worst pass defense I the league

He averaged 16 yards a completion and ran for another 180 yards. I'm not sure exactly how good he is yet either, but the worst QB in the MAC? C'mon now.

(10-20-2014 03:40 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd, Hare dinked and dunked for 186 yards passing against the worst pass defense I the league

Have you ever watched an NIU game, especially the one you are referencing? Why does he need to pass for 300+ yards when NIU runs for 433 including 180 from Hare himself?

You are quite stupid, and your posts have proven that time and time again.

(10-20-2014 03:48 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:40 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd, Hare dinked and dunked for 186 yards passing against the worst pass defense I the league

Have you ever watched an NIU game, especially the one you are referencing? Why does he need to pass for 300+ yards when NIU runs for 433 including 180 from Hare himself?

You are quite stupid, and your posts have proven that time and time again.

He was too busy posting on Ball State's message board about CMU's RB.

(10-20-2014 02:57 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd is either a huge stud or he's been reading too many Penthouse forums.

(10-20-2014 03:51 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 02:57 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd is either a huge stud or he's been reading too many Penthouse forums.

Hey, they all look good at last call.

(10-20-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:48 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:40 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd, Hare dinked and dunked for 186 yards passing against the worst pass defense I the league

Have you ever watched an NIU game, especially the one you are referencing? Why does he need to pass for 300+ yards when NIU runs for 433 including 180 from Hare himself?

You are quite stupid, and your posts have proven that time and time again.

He was too busy posting on Ball State's message board about CMU's RB.

They're not usually as easy as you 7. Is Dekalb the Northern Lower if Illinois?

(10-20-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:48 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:40 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Todd, Hare dinked and dunked for 186 yards passing against the worst pass defense I the league

Have you ever watched an NIU game, especially the one you are referencing? Why does he need to pass for 300+ yards when NIU runs for 433 including 180 from Hare himself?

You are quite stupid, and your posts have proven that time and time again.

He was too busy posting on Ball State's message board about CMU's RB.

Hare doesn't pass because, he's not good at it. He runs because that's the only thing his coach knows............besides the fact that Miami couldn't stop a wheelchair football team.

Is Beebe one of THE Beebe's??

Quote:Hare doesn't pass because, he's not good at it.

He throws for 61.1% -- roughly the same % as Connor Cook for MSU (61.4%), where Cook averages an extra yard per throw. Cook's better IMO, but Hare can do well (and do not so well, too). His main problem is consistency, IMO. But to say he "sucks at QB" -- no, he has sucked in some games, but overall, and including the last one -- he's been more than just fine, dude.

Hare: 61.1%, 11 TD, 1 INT. He's not good at passing?

Hare is #23 in the Nation in QB Rating (153.9)

Terrell is #26 in the Nation in QB Rating (151.9)

If you say Hare sucks, you pretty much have to say Terrell sucks. :)