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RE: Marshall moves up to #23 AP, #22 Coaches.
(10-19-2014 09:32 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:29 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 05:22 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:11 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Movin on up! Big opportunity to move this week a couple more spots as well. Top 20 very soon.

Who do you see as losing ahead of you? USC vs. UTAH is one guaranteed, but other than that WVU vs. OSU is the only other one I could see.

You just named the couple.

Also to the poster that brought up sagarin SOS...

Why dont you bring up all the computers actual rankings? I believe youll find Marshall ahead of ECU in 5 out of 6, including Massey and Sagarin
That's not a "big" opportunity though. I don't see WVU losing personally.

You are arguing for the sake of arguing now. Im tuning out.

To everyone else, and the ECU fan who tried to stop the hijack, thanks!
10-19-2014 09:43 PM
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RE: Marshall moves up to #23 AP, #22 Coaches.
(10-19-2014 09:42 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:25 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:06 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  [quote='randaddyminer' pid='11268309' dateline='1413769603']
marshall will most likely end up jumping ecu in the human polls if they win out. The computers already have Marshall in the driver's seat.

How do you figure? Just want to see what you're thinking.

Lets look at facts... these are polls the committee DOES consider *they do not consider polls who have a preseason ranking*

Bil - Marshall 27 ECU 30
Col - Marshall 10 ECU 29
Mas - Marshall 27 ECU 32* updated today
Sag - Marshall 35 ECU 45
Wol - Marshall 44 ECU 32

CFCC composite has Marshall at 26 and ECU 34.

All but massey is last week, however, last weeks win boosted marshall way up in massey, id expect the same in most others.

Wrong, they aren't going to consider any polls period, that why they will do their own and have been given IPads to watch games of the teams they would be looking at.07-coffee3
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RE: Marshall moves up to #23 AP, #22 Coaches.
For an access bowl.
The first top 25 ranking from the College Football Playoff selection committee will be released Tuesday, Oct. 28, and will then update weekly.
So, beginning at the end of this month, we need only to follow the publicly released rankings.

Assuming the CFP has both ECU and Marshall in their top 25 at the end of the season, the highest ranked G5 team is in.
If only one is ranked, it is in.
If both teams falter and drop from the CFP top #25, and in seasons whereby no G5 team is ranked (by the CFP); trying to figure out "who" will likely be much more problematic.
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RE: Marshall moves up to #23 AP, #22 Coaches.
(10-19-2014 09:43 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:25 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:06 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 08:46 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  marshall will most likely end up jumping ecu in the human polls if they win out. The computers already have Marshall in the driver's seat.

How do you figure? Just want to see what you're thinking.

tulane, uconn, tulsa, temple are 4 of your last 6 games. The other 2 are ucf and cinci

So? If we win, it's no worse than if Marshall wins.

yeah but those four schools are pretty bad, no way you move up by beating those schools. You need to hope that ucf wins out, and even then, Marshall going undefeated in a better conference will turn more heads than ecu going 11-1 in the American

Wtf C-USA is a better conference than the AAC? What is that based on?? Marshall is a legit top 25 team but the rest of Conf USA is less than impressive
10-20-2014 08:30 AM
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RE: Marshall moves up to #23 AP, #22 Coaches.
(10-20-2014 08:30 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:43 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:25 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:06 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  How do you figure? Just want to see what you're thinking.

tulane, uconn, tulsa, temple are 4 of your last 6 games. The other 2 are ucf and cinci

So? If we win, it's no worse than if Marshall wins.

yeah but those four schools are pretty bad, no way you move up by beating those schools. You need to hope that ucf wins out, and even then, Marshall going undefeated in a better conference will turn more heads than ecu going 11-1 in the American

Wtf C-USA is a better conference than the AAC? What is that based on?? Marshall is a legit top 25 team but the rest of Conf USA is less than impressive

Probably based on our record against them this year.
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RE: Marshall moves up to #23 AP, #22 Coaches.
Meanwhile, WVU moves up to #22 in the AP. 04-coffee
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Grats to Marshall, It is very important for CUSA to have a top 25 team every year. If we want to be the best G5 confrence that is a must have. Now for FAU this week I sincerly hope we win, but if we do it will severly hurt CUSA's rep the battle of the midgets.
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(10-20-2014 08:49 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Meanwhile, WVU moves up to #22 in the AP. 04-coffee

WVU deserved to jump us. They will lose this week so it doesn't matter anyways. Congrats to them. But we're still ahead in the coaches poll.
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If anyone thinks that the committee will not at least consult both the human and computer polls, then I'd say you're crazy...I'm not saying that they will follow them, but I feel that the committee will want to gather as much information as possible...Except for Oliver SCMUCK...He'll try to job us just for the sake of jobbing us...
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Even if the polls are consulted, it will be of little consequence. If both teams win out, they will max out in the polls very close to one another. It will likely be one or two spots difference. Power conferences are not going to allow two G5 schools to rise to the top of the poll. Additionally, there is little SOS difference between Marshall and ECU in the remaining games. Marshall will play an extra championship game. At most, they will be separated by two poll places. It will not be enough difference to impact a final decision.
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Maybe so, but I still think ECU will trip up somewhere down the line...Colorado State might be our biggest worry...All of this is assuming WE don't stomp it flat...
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(10-20-2014 09:37 AM)WEARE Wrote:  Even if the polls are consulted, it will be of little consequence. If both teams win out, they will max out in the polls very close to one another. It will likely be one or two spots difference. Power conferences are not going to allow two G5 schools to rise to the top of the poll. Additionally, there is little SOS difference between Marshall and ECU in the remaining games. Marshall will play an extra championship game. At most, they will be separated by two poll places. It will not be enough difference to impact a final decision.

This is a good post. If both Marshall and ECU win out they will be extremely close to each other in the polls by seasons end, its a total crapshoot as to who will get the spot.

As for you guys being a better conference than the American how many of your wins against them come from teams not named Tulane, Tulsa and SMU? 1?
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(10-19-2014 03:24 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Why should we leave ECU out of this thread? The positions of Marshall and ECU in the polls are of paramount importance with respect to the G5 access bowl representative.
01-wingedeagle

It's not a 01-wingedeagle. Some posters just get tired of ECU posters coming over here talking about Marshall's weak schedule and blah blah blah.

Add to that, the chances of Marshall overtaking ECU are slim to none if both teams win out. Keep in mind ECU did not play this weekend and they did not drop in the polls.
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(10-20-2014 10:40 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  As for you guys being a better conference than the American how many of your wins against them come from teams not named Tulane, Tulsa and SMU? 1?

What does it matter who CUSA beat in the AAC? Fact of the matter is the AAC promote themselves to be the best of the G-5 conference and therefore should not be losing to teams from CUSA regardless of who play who. If the roles were reversed, the AAC would accused CUSA of making excuses.

So stop making excuses for the AAC. Futhermore, how do you feel about the Big 12 being left out of the playoffs this year?
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(10-20-2014 05:18 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:42 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:25 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:06 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  [quote='randaddyminer' pid='11268309' dateline='1413769603']
marshall will most likely end up jumping ecu in the human polls if they win out. The computers already have Marshall in the driver's seat.

How do you figure? Just want to see what you're thinking.

Lets look at facts... these are polls the committee DOES consider *they do not consider polls who have a preseason ranking*

Bil - Marshall 27 ECU 30
Col - Marshall 10 ECU 29
Mas - Marshall 27 ECU 32* updated today
Sag - Marshall 35 ECU 45
Wol - Marshall 44 ECU 32

CFCC composite has Marshall at 26 and ECU 34.

All but massey is last week, however, last weeks win boosted marshall way up in massey, id expect the same in most others.

Wrong, they aren't going to consider any polls period, that why they will do their own and have been given IPads to watch games of the teams they would be looking at.07-coffee3


When will you learn to listen.....

"While it is understood that committee members will take into consideration all kinds of data including polls, committee members will be required to discredit polls wherein initial rankings are established before competition has occurred;"

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/se...e-protocol

Polls without preseason rankings will be considered.
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Adding to my post. This will be interesting. If the committee analyzes data and statistics, comparing all the criteria they say they will, Marshall should be higher. The SOS has proved to be marginal. ECU has a bad loss vs an average SC team that may not make a bowl or barely does. Statistically, Marshall owns ECU. In all the computer polls, minus 1, Marshall is ahead. Marshall will play a championship game, AND being undefeated will carry weight. All we can do is wait for october 28th. I don't see how ECU is ahead objectively after looking at all the factors. Wins over VT and UNC are not good wins, if you remove the names and just post the resumes of the two teams.
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(10-20-2014 10:52 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 10:40 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  As for you guys being a better conference than the American how many of your wins against them come from teams not named Tulane, Tulsa and SMU? 1?

What does it matter who CUSA beat in the AAC? Fact of the matter is the AAC promote themselves to be the best of the G-5 conference and therefore should not be losing to teams from CUSA regardless of who play who. If the roles were reversed, the AAC would accused CUSA of making excuses.

So stop making excuses for the AAC. Futhermore, how do you feel about the Big 12 being left out of the playoffs this year?

I'll happily take my teams win over the #4 team in the country over the conference making the playoff. I cheer for WVU not my conference. I'm not a SEC fan so I don't beat my chest over what my conference does.

I don't think any rational college football fan would say that C-USA is stronger than the AAC and really believe it. It's asinine.
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I think what the argument is here is that the AAC bottom feeders are worse than ours...On the top, I'd say they are stronger overall... So does their bottom half drag them down enough to fall below CUSA??? Probably not.
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(10-20-2014 12:14 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  I think what the argument is here is that the AAC bottom feeders are worse than ours...On the top, I'd say they are stronger overall... So does their bottom half drag them down enough to fall below CUSA??? Probably not.

Agreed. Their bottom feeders are really scrapping the bottom.
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2 of the 3 teams on East Carolina's October schedule are worse than any team on Marshall's schedule save Rhode Island. The other one would finish near the bottom of C-USA.
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