Notre Dame's affiliation with the ACC is a slam dunk for the conference. Almost every single game involving Notre Dame will get higher ratings than if that ACC team were playing any other team in the conference. And they were able to do it without giving up any of their conference games. It's a good deal for Notre Dame as well, as they get to maintain their independence and east coast presence while gaining bowl tie-ins. The fact that Brian Kelly was crying about it earlier this year just makes me detest him even more than I already did.

(10-20-2014 02:37 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Notre Dame's affiliation with the ACC is a slam dunk for the conference. Almost every single game involving Notre Dame will get higher ratings than if that ACC team were playing any other team in the conference. And they were able to do it without giving up any of their conference games. It's a good deal for Notre Dame as well, as they get to maintain their independence and east coast presence while gaining bowl tie-ins. The fact that Brian Kelly was crying about it earlier this year just makes me detest him even more than I already did.

my point is like this year if the game was say Oklahoma @ Florida St- it would have gotten nearly the exact same rating that Notre Dame @ Florida St did. None of the other Notre Dame @ ACC outside of maybe Clemson and 1-2 others will get knock out ratings. And- it's questionable if Notre Dame @ say Duke would get as good of ratings as the Notre Dame @ Pittsburgh or Boston College games that it's ostensibly replacing.

(10-20-2014 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my point is like this year if the game was say Oklahoma @ Florida St- it would have gotten nearly the exact same rating that Notre Dame @ Florida St did.

You can say that, but that is simply not true. Florida State played Oklahoma State earlier this year. Exact same time slot and network. Drew exactly half the fans (6 million). They played Clemson earlier this year, exact same timeslot and network: drew only 7 million fans. For that matter, Texas vs. Oklahoma, drew 4.25 million fans, Oklahoma's highest rated game of the year. In fact so far, by a wide margin, this was the highest rated game of the year, unless SMW's numbers are all in error. In fact it has been double the viewership of EVERY game to date but four: Alabama/Florida and Clemson/FSU, each clocking in a t just under 8 million viewers, and UGA/SC and USC/Stanford which came in at just under 7 million. So it really doesn't support your argument.

It's also worth noting that so far, the three ND/ACC games have been ND's 1st, 3rd, and 4th highest ranked games to date for them (Michigan was number 2). So it's been good for them too, at least so far.

(10-20-2014 03:41 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my point is like this year if the game was say Oklahoma @ Florida St- it would have gotten nearly the exact same rating that Notre Dame @ Florida St did.

You can say that, but that is simply not true. Florida State played Oklahoma State earlier this year. Exact same time slot and network. Drew exactly half the fans (6 million). They played Clemson earlier this year, exact same timeslot and network: drew only 7 million fans. For that matter, Texas vs. Oklahoma, drew 4.25 million fans, Oklahoma's highest rated game of the year. In fact so far, by a wide margin, this was the highest rated game of the year, unless SMW's numbers are all in error. In fact it has been double the viewership of EVERY game to date but four: Alabama/Florida and Clemson/FSU, each clocking in a t just under 8 million viewers, and UGA/SC and USC/Stanford which came in at just under 7 million. So it really doesn't support your argument.

It's also worth noting that so far, the three ND/ACC games have been ND's 1st, 3rd, and 4th highest ranked games to date for them (Michigan was number 2). So it's been good for them too, at least so far.

That's pretty damn comical. Oklahoma St does not equal Oklahoma in any fashion at all. And you know it. Oklahoma/Texas was a noon kickoff. Not going to get good ratings for a noon kickoff ever. Heaven help if it had been something like Alabama/Florida St.

And if was said earlier the ND/FSU game got 12 million- those other games are not DOUBLE at all.

Wow Oklahoma St= Oklahoma to ACC fans. Maybe explains why the ACC is where they are in football.

(10-20-2014 03:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  And if was said earlier the ND/FSU game got 12 million- those other games are not DOUBLE at all.

Ahem. Would you care to read that again? I said it was double every game "except." You do know what "except" means, right?

(10-20-2014 03:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Wow Oklahoma St= Oklahoma to ACC fans. Maybe explains why the ACC is where they are in football.

I didn't say that. I sued them because it was the other big game. I then included the fact that Oklahoma, has had exactly Zero games all year long that have had even half the rating of that game, which again does not support the argument. BTW, Oklahoma played Notre Dame last year, and again, it drew LESS than 1/3 the fans - Oklahoma had no game this year or last draw even half the viewers this game did, for the record. And for that matter, no game that drew as much as OSU vs. FSU. Still want to claim that argument, with absolutely ZERO to back it up? Or maybe, just maybe, you can acknowledge what everyone else here knows. Yes a matchup of undefeateds helped (but we've had a few of those this year and last without the same result), but the meeting of those two particular programs, was the drawing card.

WOW, the ECU fan who has reading comprehension issues, and can't understand basic mathematics. I mean, since you want to go there...

(10-20-2014 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 02:37 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Notre Dame's affiliation with the ACC is a slam dunk for the conference. Almost every single game involving Notre Dame will get higher ratings than if that ACC team were playing any other team in the conference. And they were able to do it without giving up any of their conference games. It's a good deal for Notre Dame as well, as they get to maintain their independence and east coast presence while gaining bowl tie-ins. The fact that Brian Kelly was crying about it earlier this year just makes me detest him even more than I already did.

my point is like this year if the game was say Oklahoma @ Florida St- it would have gotten nearly the exact same rating that Notre Dame @ Florida St did. None of the other Notre Dame @ ACC outside of maybe Clemson and 1-2 others will get knock out ratings. And- it's questionable if Notre Dame @ say Duke would get as good of ratings as the Notre Dame @ Pittsburgh or Boston College games that it's ostensibly replacing.

As much as I hate to say it Notre Dame will always draw big ratings. There isn't a team in the country that is going to draw significantly bigger ratings than Notre Dame. There is a reason NBC is willing to pay ND as much for 6 or 7 football games a year as the rest of the P5 teams get for TV rights to all sports.

(10-20-2014 03:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 03:41 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 02:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my point is like this year if the game was say Oklahoma @ Florida St- it would have gotten nearly the exact same rating that Notre Dame @ Florida St did.

You can say that, but that is simply not true. Florida State played Oklahoma State earlier this year. Exact same time slot and network. Drew exactly half the fans (6 million). They played Clemson earlier this year, exact same timeslot and network: drew only 7 million fans. For that matter, Texas vs. Oklahoma, drew 4.25 million fans, Oklahoma's highest rated game of the year. In fact so far, by a wide margin, this was the highest rated game of the year, unless SMW's numbers are all in error. In fact it has been double the viewership of EVERY game to date but four: Alabama/Florida and Clemson/FSU, each clocking in a t just under 8 million viewers, and UGA/SC and USC/Stanford which came in at just under 7 million. So it really doesn't support your argument.

It's also worth noting that so far, the three ND/ACC games have been ND's 1st, 3rd, and 4th highest ranked games to date for them (Michigan was number 2). So it's been good for them too, at least so far.

That's pretty damn comical. Oklahoma St does not equal Oklahoma in any fashion at all. And you know it. Oklahoma/Texas was a noon kickoff. Not going to get good ratings for a noon kickoff ever. Heaven help if it had been something like Alabama/Florida St.

And if was said earlier the ND/FSU game got 12 million- those other games are not DOUBLE at all.

Wow Oklahoma St= Oklahoma to ACC fans. Maybe explains why the ACC is where they are in football.

Calm down Stever. Don't put all ACC fans in one bucket.

You can get good ratings for a noon slot. Just depends on the matchup. Tenn/UGA had better ratings at noon than Tex/OK.

Just saw the final numbers were 7.9 rating and 13.3 million viewers....

3rd most viewers for a Saturday Night Football ABC game- behind 06 and 12 ND/USC games... 4th best rating behind those 2 and Ohio St/Texas in 2006.

One thing that is interesting- ESPN/ABC now has aired the 8 most watched Notre Dame games since 2005(the USC/ND Bush Push game). Kind of interesting that NBC has none.

(10-20-2014 02:37 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Notre Dame's affiliation with the ACC is a slam dunk for the conference. Almost every single game involving Notre Dame will get higher ratings than if that ACC team were playing any other team in the conference. And they were able to do it without giving up any of their conference games. It's a good deal for Notre Dame as well, as they get to maintain their independence and east coast presence while gaining bowl tie-ins. The fact that Brian Kelly was crying about it earlier this year just makes me detest him even more than I already did.

Not that much. They were already playing 3 or 4 games a year vs. ACC schools. Since half are on the road, all they really did was guarantee that and add 1 game every year or two to their contract (from 1.5 to 2 on their network to 2.5). And they gave up part of that contract and lots of bowl games.

The payout is if they get them in full in the next 10 years.

(10-23-2014 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw the final numbers were 7.9 rating and 13.3 million viewers....

3rd most viewers for a Saturday Night Football ABC game- behind 06 and 12 ND/USC games... 4th best rating behind those 2 and Ohio St/Texas in 2006.

One thing that is interesting- ESPN/ABC now has aired the 8 most watched Notre Dame games since 2005(the USC/ND Bush Push game). Kind of interesting that NBC has none.

Sounds kind of like the Fox effect. Casual fans aren't as used to looking for games on Fox.

(10-23-2014 04:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw the final numbers were 7.9 rating and 13.3 million viewers....

3rd most viewers for a Saturday Night Football ABC game- behind 06 and 12 ND/USC games... 4th best rating behind those 2 and Ohio St/Texas in 2006.

One thing that is interesting- ESPN/ABC now has aired the 8 most watched Notre Dame games since 2005(the USC/ND Bush Push game). Kind of interesting that NBC has none.

Sounds kind of like the Fox effect. Casual fans aren't as used to looking for games on Fox.

kind of an interesting thought. I guess part of it is the 2012 and now 2014 years where ND was real good- NBC didn't have many real good games- while ABC had a lot. 2 of the 8 are for sure the USC game in 12 and this game this year and I would guess a 3rd would be the Oklahoma game in 2012.

Those were all also all primetime games. Whereas most of the NBC games are at 3:30. Plus ESPN promos those primetime games all week.

Still want to hold onto your comment that any other big name opponent would draw the same rating?

(10-23-2014 04:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw the final numbers were 7.9 rating and 13.3 million viewers....

3rd most viewers for a Saturday Night Football ABC game- behind 06 and 12 ND/USC games... 4th best rating behind those 2 and Ohio St/Texas in 2006.

One thing that is interesting- ESPN/ABC now has aired the 8 most watched Notre Dame games since 2005(the USC/ND Bush Push game). Kind of interesting that NBC has none.

Sounds kind of like the Fox effect. Casual fans aren't as used to looking for games on Fox.

That, and also that Fox's promotion of games on Fox broadcast and FS1 is puny compared to ESPN's promotion of anything. The Fox people have no clue and should probably hire some folks from ESPN to show them how to properly advance-promote their game telecasts.

Notre Dame is special - especially in the east - and anyone who fails/refuses to acknowledge that fact is just whistling Dixie.

Haters gonna hate.

Most were probably, like me, watching hoping notre dame would win.
Everyone loves an upset also fsu is not loved this year due to there coddling of a sex offender.

(10-24-2014 09:49 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Notre Dame is special - especially in the east - and anyone who fails/refuses to acknowledge that fact is just whistling Dixie.

True. Most Notre Dame fans prefer to whistle "The Battle Hymn of the Republic". (Side note: you can hate the SEC and still be a true Southerner.)

(10-26-2014 10:36 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Most were probably, like me, watching hoping notre dame would win.
Everyone loves an upset also fsu is not loved this year due to there coddling of a sex offender.

alleged sex offender

(10-26-2014 11:02 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:49 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Notre Dame is special - especially in the east - and anyone who fails/refuses to acknowledge that fact is just whistling Dixie.

True. Most Notre Dame fans prefer to whistle "The Battle Hymn of the Republic". (Side note: you can hate the SEC and still be a true Southerner.)

True. 31 years in the Deep South and I am still an unrepentant Yankee. :)