A little drunk, so bare with me, but here we go...

55 carries, 433 yards, 7.9 YPC, 6 TDs. Hello, offensive line. For as disappointing as that group has been this year, that was great to see. That was what we all expected out of this offense all year. Well done, hogs.

It's amazing how much better the QB looks when you're running the ball well, eh? In all seriousness though, good for Hare. After a couple of rough outings, he was damn near flawless today. 365 total yards, 3 TDs. That was the guy we saw against UNLV and Northwestern.

We talked about all week that Hare wasn't a fit for this offense. How did they fix that today? The offensive staff said **** it and just ran the offense anyways. Welcome back QB power! The best play in the playbook last year was the best play in the playbook today. For whatever reason, the offensive line just blocks QB power so much better than they do traditional runs. Hare is no Lynch obviously, but he has enough wheels to make that play effective. Kudos to the offensive coaching staff for going back and making the adjustments from what they had been doing that wasn't working.

It's going to be interesting to watch the playcalling and how Hare handles running the QB power against better teams.

With that being said...2 drives, 2 TDs for Maddie. Still think he's a better fit to run the offense, but Hare played great today and should obviously get the start against EMU. That throw to Huff in the endzone though...haha. I would continue to play both QBs.

I have no idea what the hell is going on with the defense right now. I think Hendrix is a good player, but to give up 41 points and 500 yards to a now 1-7 team is unacceptable. What has happened to the defense line? It has just completely disappeared. The tackling today was terrible. Also, Brandon Mayes is a better option at safety than Marlon Moore and should be starting over him.

THROW IT TO THE TE SO HE CAN FUMBLE IT!!!!11

I'm pretty sure NIU lost all it's communication from the press box to the field at some point. Cole and Niemann were both calling plays from the sidelines and nobody had on headsets.

Look, that game wasn't a work of art, but overall I am way more optimistic about the offense than I am pessimistic about the defense. I don't think that was as much as who they played as the plays they run and how they executed it.

With CMU flopping today, we now control our own destiny to Detroit. This is 2011 territory now. Style points out the window, just post W's and we'll go from there.

(10-19-2014 03:38 AM)7 Wrote:  A little drunk, so bare with me, but here we go...

We can BEAR with you, but please, please don't ever ask us to BARE with you. That's going a little too far!

(10-19-2014 03:38 AM)7 Wrote:  It's going to be interesting to watch the playcalling and how Hare handles running the QB power against better teams.

Exactly. But this was a great day for Hare on his learning curve. I don't care who he did it against.

You're right about the communications. Rod also said in the postgame that Da'Ron Brown didn't practice all week.

I have nothing against hare, but my thinking is that miami is no good against the run, which made him look very good running the ball and then passing. Against faster d's he will not be able to run it and they will have one less guy in the box and he struggles. Glad he played good today and looked better running, but i hope he can continue to look that good consistently.

Still...good job to hare and the offense!

(10-19-2014 07:36 AM)JB04 Wrote:  I have nothing against hare, but my thinking is that miami is no good against the run, which made him look very good running the ball and then passing. Against faster d's he will not be able to run it and they will have one less guy in the box and he struggles. Glad he played good today and looked better running, but i hope he can continue to look that good consistently.

Still...good job to hare and the offense!

Probably right that Miami is no good against the run. NIU went all out to establish the run early.

At least we don't have to hear about how it was all Hare's fault for a week. The defense has gotten run all over the last two weeks. But i'm sure if we lost today many people on here would have still found a way to blame it all on Hare.

When our run-game is going our offense dominates. Hare will thrive as long as the run game continues to do well, which has been a staple of NIU football since i've been following. Hare is not Lynch, he's not going to do it all when the OL and RBs aren't doing their their thing. No offense should be that reliant on the QB to do that much heavy lifting anyway. The RBs should always do the heavy lifting in the running game.

(10-19-2014 03:38 AM)7 Wrote:  ...

I'm pretty sure NIU lost all it's communication from the press box to the field at some point. Cole and Niemann were both calling plays from the sidelines and nobody had on headsets.

...

We had the same issue last week too. Media services said they fixed this issue last week...looks like they have more trouble shooting to do.

Coaches were all on the sideline for. 2nd half due to headsets not working.

At least they had Cont plan in place from last week. Need to get that right...unacceptable. I've been hard on Rod but he handled that one postgame very well.

I agree with the post, congrats to Hare and the coach's on putting a super effective gameplan together. Some of it was being committed to the run and some of it was the blocking. However, I also want to point out the reads were better by Hare. he's still not fantastic at it, but he kept it or gave it right more yesterday. For all the talk about the playcalling, that's not really what this offense is about, most plays have 2-3 options, so the QB needs to make the right choice based on the D, Hare did that yesterday. He's still not as good at Harnish at it, but he shouldn't be as a sophomore. He showed he has the potential yesterday.

I was 50/50 Maddie/Hare going into yesterday, I'd say I'm 65/35 Hare over Maddie at this point. Although I'm still fine with Maddie getting a series each half.

At WR, Canada is just so darn inconsistent. D. Brown should get so much darn credit, kid FIGHTS for the ball better than any WR in memory (yes more than Hurd or Tel).

RB's, great, Stingily looked fantastic, I don't get the hate on ACRB, he showed he had the speed on that run down the sidelines. I also want to see more Huff...but who exactly are you going to take carries away from? I think the mix we had yesterday was perfect. I feel bad for Akeem, but he's not really needed here (although we do miss his pass-catching a bit).

Congrats to the O-line as well, but they still don't get great push on clear running downs (at the goal line)

The D...that was gross. Where the heck has the D-line gone? Meehan/Ford...these two need to step up and stop getting manhandled. I'd like to see us blitz with the LB's a little bit more to help out, however, even when we did that, we didn't really get there.

With zero pressure, I can't blame our secondary too much, they at least keep the majority of the plays in front of them. Logan and Moore are bad though. And Durante...I think I just had too high of expectations after Ward, he's fine.

Orne continues to look good enough with kick-off duties...however, it hasn't helped Wedel's kicking...

(10-19-2014 10:23 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  I agree with the post, congrats to Hare and the coach's on putting a super effective gameplan together. Some of it was being committed to the run and some of it was the blocking. However, I also want to point out the reads were better by Hare. he's still not fantastic at it, but he kept it or gave it right more yesterday. For all the talk about the playcalling, that's not really what this offense is about, most plays have 2-3 options, so the QB needs to make the right choice based on the D, Hare did that yesterday. He's still not as good at Harnish at it, but he shouldn't be as a sophomore. He showed he has the potential yesterday.

I was 50/50 Maddie/Hare going into yesterday, I'd say I'm 65/35 Hare over Maddie at this point. Although I'm still fine with Maddie getting a series each half.

At WR, Canada is just so darn inconsistent. D. Brown should get so much darn credit, kid FIGHTS for the ball better than any WR in memory (yes more than Hurd or Tel).

RB's, great, Stingily looked fantastic, I don't get the hate on ACRB, he showed he had the speed on that run down the sidelines. I also want to see more Huff...but who exactly are you going to take carries away from? I think the mix we had yesterday was perfect. I feel bad for Akeem, but he's not really needed here (although we do miss his pass-catching a bit).

Congrats to the O-line as well, but they still don't get great push on clear running downs (at the goal line)

The D...that was gross. Where the heck has the D-line gone? Meehan/Ford...these two need to step up and stop getting manhandled. I'd like to see us blitz with the LB's a little bit more to help out, however, even when we did that, we didn't really get there.

With zero pressure, I can't blame our secondary too much, they at least keep the majority of the plays in front of them. Logan and Moore are bad though. And Durante...I think I just had too high of expectations after Ward, he's fine.

Orne continues to look good enough with kick-off duties...however, it hasn't helped Wedel's kicking...

Meehan & Ford are undersized for D-Line. Their strength is quickness.

We have no BEEF at all for a push up the middle. Miami QB just stood there and picked where he wanted to throw most of the day.

Ken Bishop is sorely missed.

(10-19-2014 10:49 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 10:23 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  I agree with the post, congrats to Hare and the coach's on putting a super effective gameplan together. Some of it was being committed to the run and some of it was the blocking. However, I also want to point out the reads were better by Hare. he's still not fantastic at it, but he kept it or gave it right more yesterday. For all the talk about the playcalling, that's not really what this offense is about, most plays have 2-3 options, so the QB needs to make the right choice based on the D, Hare did that yesterday. He's still not as good at Harnish at it, but he shouldn't be as a sophomore. He showed he has the potential yesterday.

I was 50/50 Maddie/Hare going into yesterday, I'd say I'm 65/35 Hare over Maddie at this point. Although I'm still fine with Maddie getting a series each half.

At WR, Canada is just so darn inconsistent. D. Brown should get so much darn credit, kid FIGHTS for the ball better than any WR in memory (yes more than Hurd or Tel).

RB's, great, Stingily looked fantastic, I don't get the hate on ACRB, he showed he had the speed on that run down the sidelines. I also want to see more Huff...but who exactly are you going to take carries away from? I think the mix we had yesterday was perfect. I feel bad for Akeem, but he's not really needed here (although we do miss his pass-catching a bit).

Congrats to the O-line as well, but they still don't get great push on clear running downs (at the goal line)

The D...that was gross. Where the heck has the D-line gone? Meehan/Ford...these two need to step up and stop getting manhandled. I'd like to see us blitz with the LB's a little bit more to help out, however, even when we did that, we didn't really get there.

With zero pressure, I can't blame our secondary too much, they at least keep the majority of the plays in front of them. Logan and Moore are bad though. And Durante...I think I just had too high of expectations after Ward, he's fine.

Orne continues to look good enough with kick-off duties...however, it hasn't helped Wedel's kicking...

Meehan & Ford are undersized for D-Line. Their strength is quickness.

We have no BEEF at all for a push up the middle. Miami QB just stood there and picked where he wanted to throw most of the day.

Ken Bishop is sorely missed.

The 2 guys in the middle are 300 lbs, so they're big enough. Just not good enough it appears. Our DEs are typically small, like Meehan's size, and we've still had success with that. Ford is definitely way undersized.

(10-19-2014 11:21 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 10:49 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 10:23 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  I agree with the post, congrats to Hare and the coach's on putting a super effective gameplan together. Some of it was being committed to the run and some of it was the blocking. However, I also want to point out the reads were better by Hare. he's still not fantastic at it, but he kept it or gave it right more yesterday. For all the talk about the playcalling, that's not really what this offense is about, most plays have 2-3 options, so the QB needs to make the right choice based on the D, Hare did that yesterday. He's still not as good at Harnish at it, but he shouldn't be as a sophomore. He showed he has the potential yesterday.

I was 50/50 Maddie/Hare going into yesterday, I'd say I'm 65/35 Hare over Maddie at this point. Although I'm still fine with Maddie getting a series each half.

At WR, Canada is just so darn inconsistent. D. Brown should get so much darn credit, kid FIGHTS for the ball better than any WR in memory (yes more than Hurd or Tel).

RB's, great, Stingily looked fantastic, I don't get the hate on ACRB, he showed he had the speed on that run down the sidelines. I also want to see more Huff...but who exactly are you going to take carries away from? I think the mix we had yesterday was perfect. I feel bad for Akeem, but he's not really needed here (although we do miss his pass-catching a bit).

Congrats to the O-line as well, but they still don't get great push on clear running downs (at the goal line)

The D...that was gross. Where the heck has the D-line gone? Meehan/Ford...these two need to step up and stop getting manhandled. I'd like to see us blitz with the LB's a little bit more to help out, however, even when we did that, we didn't really get there.

With zero pressure, I can't blame our secondary too much, they at least keep the majority of the plays in front of them. Logan and Moore are bad though. And Durante...I think I just had too high of expectations after Ward, he's fine.

Orne continues to look good enough with kick-off duties...however, it hasn't helped Wedel's kicking...

Meehan & Ford are undersized for D-Line. Their strength is quickness.

We have no BEEF at all for a push up the middle. Miami QB just stood there and picked where he wanted to throw most of the day.

Ken Bishop is sorely missed.

The 2 guys in the middle are 300 lbs, so they're big enough. Just not good enough it appears. Our DEs are typically small, like Meehan's size, and we've still had success with that. Ford is definitely way undersized.

Yes. Your statement is more accurate.

(10-19-2014 10:23 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  I agree with the post, congrats to Hare and the coach's on putting a super effective gameplan together. Some of it was being committed to the run and some of it was the blocking. However, I also want to point out the reads were better by Hare. he's still not fantastic at it, but he kept it or gave it right more yesterday. For all the talk about the playcalling, that's not really what this offense is about, most plays have 2-3 options, so the QB needs to make the right choice based on the D, Hare did that yesterday. He's still not as good at Harnish at it, but he shouldn't be as a sophomore. He showed he has the potential yesterday.

I was 50/50 Maddie/Hare going into yesterday, I'd say I'm 65/35 Hare over Maddie at this point. Although I'm still fine with Maddie getting a series each half.

At WR, Canada is just so darn inconsistent. D. Brown should get so much darn credit, kid FIGHTS for the ball better than any WR in memory (yes more than Hurd or Tel).

RB's, great, Stingily looked fantastic, I don't get the hate on ACRB, he showed he had the speed on that run down the sidelines. I also want to see more Huff...but who exactly are you going to take carries away from? I think the mix we had yesterday was perfect. I feel bad for Akeem, but he's not really needed here (although we do miss his pass-catching a bit).

Congrats to the O-line as well, but they still don't get great push on clear running downs (at the goal line)

The D...that was gross. Where the heck has the D-line gone? Meehan/Ford...these two need to step up and stop getting manhandled. I'd like to see us blitz with the LB's a little bit more to help out, however, even when we did that, we didn't really get there.

With zero pressure, I can't blame our secondary too much, they at least keep the majority of the plays in front of them. Logan and Moore are bad though. And Durante...I think I just had too high of expectations after Ward, he's fine.

Orne continues to look good enough with kick-off duties...however, it hasn't helped Wedel's kicking...

Sorry for being clueless...but please tell me who ACRB is? Having a hell of a time figuring it out .

Joel Bouagnon

(10-19-2014 11:28 AM)NIUBub Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 10:23 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  I agree with the post, congrats to Hare and the coach's on putting a super effective gameplan together. Some of it was being committed to the run and some of it was the blocking. However, I also want to point out the reads were better by Hare. he's still not fantastic at it, but he kept it or gave it right more yesterday. For all the talk about the playcalling, that's not really what this offense is about, most plays have 2-3 options, so the QB needs to make the right choice based on the D, Hare did that yesterday. He's still not as good at Harnish at it, but he shouldn't be as a sophomore. He showed he has the potential yesterday.

I was 50/50 Maddie/Hare going into yesterday, I'd say I'm 65/35 Hare over Maddie at this point. Although I'm still fine with Maddie getting a series each half.

At WR, Canada is just so darn inconsistent. D. Brown should get so much darn credit, kid FIGHTS for the ball better than any WR in memory (yes more than Hurd or Tel).

RB's, great, Stingily looked fantastic, I don't get the hate on ACRB, he showed he had the speed on that run down the sidelines. I also want to see more Huff...but who exactly are you going to take carries away from? I think the mix we had yesterday was perfect. I feel bad for Akeem, but he's not really needed here (although we do miss his pass-catching a bit).

Congrats to the O-line as well, but they still don't get great push on clear running downs (at the goal line)

The D...that was gross. Where the heck has the D-line gone? Meehan/Ford...these two need to step up and stop getting manhandled. I'd like to see us blitz with the LB's a little bit more to help out, however, even when we did that, we didn't really get there.

With zero pressure, I can't blame our secondary too much, they at least keep the majority of the plays in front of them. Logan and Moore are bad though. And Durante...I think I just had too high of expectations after Ward, he's fine.

Orne continues to look good enough with kick-off duties...however, it hasn't helped Wedel's kicking...

Sorry for being clueless...but please tell me who ACRB is? Having a hell of a time figuring it out .

Aurora Christian Running Back

aka: Joel Bouganamomanonamon

(10-19-2014 11:33 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 11:28 AM)NIUBub Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 10:23 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  I agree with the post, congrats to Hare and the coach's on putting a super effective gameplan together. Some of it was being committed to the run and some of it was the blocking. However, I also want to point out the reads were better by Hare. he's still not fantastic at it, but he kept it or gave it right more yesterday. For all the talk about the playcalling, that's not really what this offense is about, most plays have 2-3 options, so the QB needs to make the right choice based on the D, Hare did that yesterday. He's still not as good at Harnish at it, but he shouldn't be as a sophomore. He showed he has the potential yesterday.

I was 50/50 Maddie/Hare going into yesterday, I'd say I'm 65/35 Hare over Maddie at this point. Although I'm still fine with Maddie getting a series each half.

At WR, Canada is just so darn inconsistent. D. Brown should get so much darn credit, kid FIGHTS for the ball better than any WR in memory (yes more than Hurd or Tel).

RB's, great, Stingily looked fantastic, I don't get the hate on ACRB, he showed he had the speed on that run down the sidelines. I also want to see more Huff...but who exactly are you going to take carries away from? I think the mix we had yesterday was perfect. I feel bad for Akeem, but he's not really needed here (although we do miss his pass-catching a bit).

Congrats to the O-line as well, but they still don't get great push on clear running downs (at the goal line)

The D...that was gross. Where the heck has the D-line gone? Meehan/Ford...these two need to step up and stop getting manhandled. I'd like to see us blitz with the LB's a little bit more to help out, however, even when we did that, we didn't really get there.

With zero pressure, I can't blame our secondary too much, they at least keep the majority of the plays in front of them. Logan and Moore are bad though. And Durante...I think I just had too high of expectations after Ward, he's fine.

Orne continues to look good enough with kick-off duties...however, it hasn't helped Wedel's kicking...

Sorry for being clueless...but please tell me who ACRB is? Having a hell of a time figuring it out .

Aurora Christian Running Back

aka: Joel Bouganamomanonamon

Funny. Thanks!

(10-19-2014 08:18 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 03:38 AM)7 Wrote:  ...

I'm pretty sure NIU lost all it's communication from the press box to the field at some point. Cole and Niemann were both calling plays from the sidelines and nobody had on headsets.

...

We had the same issue last week too. Media services said they fixed this issue last week...looks like they have more trouble shooting to do.

How about a couple of smart phones?

I don't think NIU's D is special, even for the MAC. I do think it can be better than the last two weeks, but they clearly aren't good enough to shut down what the other team is really good at. Gonna be some shootouts, I think (hope is the word, I guess. One good game does not make me trust the offense).

I don't think Hare is special runner and I know Miami sucks on D but he showed some elusiveness that was encouraging.

(10-19-2014 08:18 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 03:38 AM)7 Wrote:  ...

I'm pretty sure NIU lost all it's communication from the press box to the field at some point. Cole and Niemann were both calling plays from the sidelines and nobody had on headsets.

...

We had the same issue last week too. Media services said they fixed this issue last week...looks like they have more trouble shooting to do.

They could've just yelled down to the sidelines from the press box it was so empty and quiet in the stadium.

Orne is terrible. Kickoffs to the 10. Wedel is worse. I like Brooks, Smalls?, Oluttu, Mayes.
I don't like Durante, Moore. Logan is ok. Future is bright for the secondary.