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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
Marshall can't even draw 30k fans a game. They do look a lot like the better D1aa's.
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 01:46 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The sooner Marshall loses, the better for the AAC board.

The CUSA homers will go away, yet those same posters would take a AAC invite immediately.

And they can keep the butt kissers from the AAC who go over there trying to pat CUSA in the back. Marshall fans just need to focus on their winning the FCS. That is an accomplishment they should be proud of.
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 01:19 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 12:52 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:43 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  According to objective sources, ECU has a much stronger SOS than Marshall. Sagarin gives ECU and Marshall a 89th and 147th rank while ESPN shows a 81st and 126th rank, respectively.

Assuming each squad wins out, the Committee will have to weigh ECU's tougher schedule with Marshall's unblemished record. It would be interesting to read or hear the expert view of the merits of each team. For example, how would Vegas set the opening line for a Marshall / ECU game?

According to every other objective source, ECU's schedule is only a few spots slightly less terrible than Marshall's. Sagarin is the only popular poll I can think of that shows ECU's schedule a lot higher than Marshall's. RealtimeRPI, warren nolan, ESPN power index, etc all show ECU as having one of the worst schedules in the country with Marshall due to UCONN, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, USF being bad and UNC, Vtech, USC not performing as well as expected. And regardless of how Sagarin comes up with SOS formulas, he still has Marshall ranked higher. Marshall is ranked higher in 48 of 50 computers pools by an average of 13 places.

If you're going to use someones SOS formulas then you kind of have to go with their actual rankings of teams as well, since that is how they form everyone's SOS.

UNC just lost to ND by 7 and beat GT.

Don't let that get in the way of everyone's opinion that us crushing UNC meant nothing. They aren't a great team by any means, but they are more talented than any team on Marshall's schedule by a long shot.
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 01:49 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:46 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The sooner Marshall loses, the better for the AAC board.

The CUSA homers will go away, yet those same posters would take a AAC invite immediately.

And they can keep the butt kissers from the AAC who go over there trying to pat CUSA in the back. Marshall fans just need to focus on their winning the FCS. That is an accomplishment they should be proud of.

01-wingedeagle ECU fans need to worry about ECU, and stop obsessing over Marshall...
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 01:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:49 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:46 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The sooner Marshall loses, the better for the AAC board.

The CUSA homers will go away, yet those same posters would take a AAC invite immediately.

And they can keep the butt kissers from the AAC who go over there trying to pat CUSA in the back. Marshall fans just need to focus on their winning the FCS. That is an accomplishment they should be proud of.

01-wingedeagle ECU fans need to worry about ECU, and stop obsessing over Marshall...

Touché
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 01:51 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:19 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 12:52 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:43 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  According to objective sources, ECU has a much stronger SOS than Marshall. Sagarin gives ECU and Marshall a 89th and 147th rank while ESPN shows a 81st and 126th rank, respectively.

Assuming each squad wins out, the Committee will have to weigh ECU's tougher schedule with Marshall's unblemished record. It would be interesting to read or hear the expert view of the merits of each team. For example, how would Vegas set the opening line for a Marshall / ECU game?

According to every other objective source, ECU's schedule is only a few spots slightly less terrible than Marshall's. Sagarin is the only popular poll I can think of that shows ECU's schedule a lot higher than Marshall's. RealtimeRPI, warren nolan, ESPN power index, etc all show ECU as having one of the worst schedules in the country with Marshall due to UCONN, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, USF being bad and UNC, Vtech, USC not performing as well as expected. And regardless of how Sagarin comes up with SOS formulas, he still has Marshall ranked higher. Marshall is ranked higher in 48 of 50 computers pools by an average of 13 places.

If you're going to use someones SOS formulas then you kind of have to go with their actual rankings of teams as well, since that is how they form everyone's SOS.

UNC just lost to ND by 7 and beat GT.

Don't let that get in the way of everyone's opinion that us crushing UNC meant nothing. They aren't a great team by any means, but they are more talented than any team on Marshall's schedule by a long shot.

No doubt, I think UNC may still end up being a good win if they can take a lot of their remaining games. If they finish out 1-4 or 2-3 it isn't going to look like a good win though. You want them to be at least 6-6 or 7-5 to be a top 40-60 win for the season. Their schedule is certainly a bit easier now, but 3 of their remaining 5 games are on the road so it is pretty likely they end up 5-7 for the season.
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Marshall fans play the victim/little brother/"we done been done wrong" better than any school in the country. If you reveresed the schedules and records between ECU and Marshall they would be whining the same whine they are whining now. Its a long standing tradition in the state of West bygod Virginia to whine about everthing.

West Virginia should be known as Whine Country
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 01:49 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:46 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The sooner Marshall loses, the better for the AAC board.

The CUSA homers will go away, yet those same posters would take a AAC invite immediately.

And they can keep the butt kissers from the AAC who go over there trying to pat CUSA in the back. Marshall fans just need to focus on their winning the FCS. That is an accomplishment they should be proud of.

If I'm going to focus on history I'll just focus on the fact we stomped a mudhole in the Pirates last year.

It would be fun to watch Carden spend another holiday on his a$$ like he did last Thanksgiving.
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 09:22 PM)TenThunder Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:49 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:46 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The sooner Marshall loses, the better for the AAC board.

The CUSA homers will go away, yet those same posters would take a AAC invite immediately.

And they can keep the butt kissers from the AAC who go over there trying to pat CUSA in the back. Marshall fans just need to focus on their winning the FCS. That is an accomplishment they should be proud of.

If I'm going to focus on history I'll just focus on the fact we stomped a mudhole in the Pirates last year.

It would be fun to watch Carden spend another holiday on his a$$ like he did last Thanksgiving.

03-lmfao nice first post. If I'm going to focus on history, 10-5

Did you wait 12 years for a glimmer of success?
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 03:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Marshall fans play the victim/little brother/"we done been done wrong" better than any school in the country. If you reveresed the schedules and records between ECU and Marshall they would be whining the same whine they are whining now. Its a long standing tradition in the state of West bygod Virginia to whine about everthing.

West Virginia should be known as Whine Country

Can confirm. Most of my family lives in WV. I had to put them in their own special group on Facebook so my feed wasn't littered with their constant whining.

All of WV's problems are someone else's fault. Always.
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
(10-19-2014 09:28 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:22 PM)TenThunder Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:49 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:46 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The sooner Marshall loses, the better for the AAC board.

The CUSA homers will go away, yet those same posters would take a AAC invite immediately.

And they can keep the butt kissers from the AAC who go over there trying to pat CUSA in the back. Marshall fans just need to focus on their winning the FCS. That is an accomplishment they should be proud of.

If I'm going to focus on history I'll just focus on the fact we stomped a mudhole in the Pirates last year.

It would be fun to watch Carden spend another holiday on his a$$ like he did last Thanksgiving.

03-lmfao nice first post. If I'm going to focus on history, 10-5

Did you wait 12 years for a glimmer of success?

lol Nah, I was waiting for my pitch. You know we just swing at the easy ones.
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Must hurt the Marshall folks to have 5-2 big brother WVU jump ahead of your 7-0 Herd for their first appearance in the AP Top 25, 272 votes to 184 votes.
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(10-19-2014 10:14 PM)TenThunder Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:28 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 09:22 PM)TenThunder Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:49 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(10-19-2014 01:46 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The sooner Marshall loses, the better for the AAC board.

The CUSA homers will go away, yet those same posters would take a AAC invite immediately.

And they can keep the butt kissers from the AAC who go over there trying to pat CUSA in the back. Marshall fans just need to focus on their winning the FCS. That is an accomplishment they should be proud of.

If I'm going to focus on history I'll just focus on the fact we stomped a mudhole in the Pirates last year.

It would be fun to watch Carden spend another holiday on his a$$ like he did last Thanksgiving.

03-lmfao nice first post. If I'm going to focus on history, 10-5

Did you wait 12 years for a glimmer of success?

lol Nah, I was waiting for my pitch. You know we just swing at the easy ones.

Obviously. We have all seen your schedule.
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(10-20-2014 08:10 AM)CrownRoyal Wrote:  Must hurt the Marshall folks to have 5-2 big brother WVU jump ahead of your 7-0 Herd for their first appearance in the AP Top 25, 272 votes to 184 votes.

Nah. They will love it. Gives them something else to whine about
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RE: Marshall's Big Out of Conference Win Not Looking So Good
I honestly was drawing blanks when I read "big out of conference win" knowing what the schedule was.
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