(10-18-2014 06:03 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 04:26 PM)El Grande Flippero Wrote:  WMU is a good team..Fleck is a toolbox but he's rebuilt that team quickly...but this was a winnable game and I put the blame on our coaches. the defense is reading our screens and blowing them up. Our QB has been playing progressively worse each week, but the coach lacks the nards to make the switch

Even the high schoolish announcers explained why - WMU runs the same plays and sees them all week. It was nothing new for them.

If that's Tom Cole's theory...it's probably wrong. OU was all over that play last week too.

UMass 36 - EMU 14.

It was a super fourth quarter ground drive that chewed up the clock. We fumbled the ball twice in the red zone included the fourth quarter drive and also missed two extra points. Have a better perspective on the Vegas line and Quinn's firing.

Very disappoint in attendance at Gillette 12,030 the past two games. There were about as many students as EMU fans. Don't blame them and very happy we're having games back on campus.

(10-18-2014 05:07 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  what a crazy year this is turning out to be. I have a theory that in any given year MAC football teams divide pretty evenly into thirds, the top 1/3 are the strong teams that you expect to wineach week and can compete with some P5 teams, the bottom 1/3 are the horrible teams that can only beat each other, and the middle 1/3 are the teams that are a little schitzo, they could lose badly to a bottom 1/3 team one week and turnaround and blowout a top 1/3 team the next week, you never know.

With that being said I feel like this year we have 13 teams in the middle 1/3. what the heck is going on?

No dominant QB for the first time in recent memory.

(10-18-2014 09:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 05:07 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  what a crazy year this is turning out to be. I have a theory that in any given year MAC football teams divide pretty evenly into thirds, the top 1/3 are the strong teams that you expect to wineach week and can compete with some P5 teams, the bottom 1/3 are the horrible teams that can only beat each other, and the middle 1/3 are the teams that are a little schitzo, they could lose badly to a bottom 1/3 team one week and turnaround and blowout a top 1/3 team the next week, you never know.

With that being said I feel like this year we have 13 teams in the middle 1/3. what the heck is going on?

No dominant QB for the first time in recent memory.

You'll have a chance to meet Fro next week.

This article was from the morning papers.

Quote:Seven games into his tenure at the University of Massachusetts, it’s hard to imagine Frohnapfel having a more profound impact on the Minutemen’s offense.

With more than 2,100 yards passing and an 18-to-5 touchdown-to-interception ratio, Frohnapfel has crafted one of the finest seasons of any quarterback to don the maroon and white.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/1...story.html

no disrespect but a dominant MAC QB isn't one that is 2-6 with a loss to a team on 19 game losing streak.

(10-18-2014 08:25 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  UMass 36 - EMU 14.

It was a super fourth quarter ground drive that chewed up the clock. We fumbled the ball twice in the red zone included the fourth quarter drive and also missed two extra points. Have a better perspective on the Vegas line and Quinn's firing.

Very disappoint in attendance at Gillette 12,030 the past two games. There were about as many students as EMU fans. Don't blame them and very happy we're having games back on campus.

A little off thread, but I'll be sad to see UMass leave the MAC after next year's season.

UMass appears to be a very young team which will get much better and can contribute to MAC football.

Football programs are a little like stocks: When people are selling, folks should be buying and vice versa.

Folks were down on UMass football when they needed to be patient and in for the long haul.

UMass has a shot at a bowl in 2015 and then they'll leave.

So the MAC was in for the bad times but not for the good times ahead(ahead).

Umass does have the best qb statistically but we had a bye and hopefully that works in our favor as far as stunting the pass game. Good luck stopping toledos run game if hunt is back...

(10-18-2014 10:09 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  no disrespect but a dominant MAC QB isn't one that is 2-6 with a loss to a team on 19 game losing streak.

Thanks for saving me the time, perimeter. No doubt the UMass guy is good but the fact that I have to call him "the UMass guy" shows what I'm talking about. Even casual fans could name Rothlesberger, Lynch, Harnish, Gradkowski and LeFouever(even if they couldn't spell them). And those teams won 9-12 games a year.

(10-19-2014 08:02 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 10:09 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  no disrespect but a dominant MAC QB isn't one that is 2-6 with a loss to a team on 19 game losing streak.

Thanks for saving me the time, perimeter. No doubt the UMass guy is good but the fact that I have to call him "the UMass guy" shows what I'm talking about. Even casual fans could name Rothlesberger, Lynch, Harnish, Gradkowski and LeFouever(even if they couldn't spell them). And those teams won 9-12 games a year.

Perhaps if you said top MAC team with dominating QB. Fro has been here for 2 months, so talking about the last 2 years is bull. Will see next year on the win column as we will be a much stronger team. Currently we are one of the youngest teams in FBS football with 3 seniors and post grads. Next year we'll complete the transition and finally be up to the 85 scholarships.

By UMass standards, he is very good. By MAC standards, not so much.


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(10-19-2014 01:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 08:25 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  UMass 36 - EMU 14.

It was a super fourth quarter ground drive that chewed up the clock. We fumbled the ball twice in the red zone included the fourth quarter drive and also missed two extra points. Have a better perspective on the Vegas line and Quinn's firing.

Very disappoint in attendance at Gillette 12,030 the past two games. There were about as many students as EMU fans. Don't blame them and very happy we're having games back on campus.

A little off thread, but I'll be sad to see UMass leave the MAC after next year's season.

UMass appears to be a very young team which will get much better and can contribute to MAC football.

Football programs are a little like stocks: When people are selling, folks should be buying and vice versa.

Folks were down on UMass football when they needed to be patient and in for the long haul.

UMass has a shot at a bowl in 2015 and then they'll leave.

So the MAC was in for the bad times but not for the good times ahead(ahead).

Good to see the scoreboard didn't fall down at Gillette this week...

(10-19-2014 09:04 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 08:02 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 10:09 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  no disrespect but a dominant MAC QB isn't one that is 2-6 with a loss to a team on 19 game losing streak.

Thanks for saving me the time, perimeter. No doubt the UMass guy is good but the fact that I have to call him "the UMass guy" shows what I'm talking about. Even casual fans could name Rothlesberger, Lynch, Harnish, Gradkowski and LeFouever(even if they couldn't spell them). And those teams won 9-12 games a year.

Perhaps if you said top MAC team with dominating QB. Fro has been here for 2 months, so talking about the last 2 years is bull. Will see next year on the win column as we will be a much stronger team. Currently we are one of the youngest teams in FBS football with 3 seniors and post grads. Next year we'll complete the transition and finally be up to the 85 scholarships.

Sadly for EMU, we'll probably get to see him and UMass on the gray turf next year.

UMass and WMU should be the two most improved teams (actually WMU is mostly there this season) from August 30, 2014 to say Thanksgiving 2015.

(10-19-2014 08:02 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 10:09 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  no disrespect but a dominant MAC QB isn't one that is 2-6 with a loss to a team on 19 game losing streak.

Thanks for saving me the time, perimeter. No doubt the UMass guy is good but the fact that I have to call him "the UMass guy" shows what I'm talking about. Even casual fans could name Rothlesberger, Lynch, Harnish, Gradkowski and LeFouever(even if they couldn't spell them). And those teams won 9-12 games a year.

Do not forget Nate Davis. He had Ball ST. ranked as high as #10 in 2008.

(10-19-2014 10:13 AM)emu steve Wrote:  UMass and WMU should be the two most improved teams (actually WMU is mostly there this season) from August 30, 2014 to say Thanksgiving 2015.

Eh, I think you forgot us. You didn't see EMU play Miami last year, that was possibly the worst football team ever to play in the MAC. Those other two teams will probably be better than us at Thanksgiving 2015, but the fact that Miami has not been thoroughly dominated from beginning to end in any of our games is a minor miracle.

Then again, I think some of this season has been an illusion for us. Hendrix alone has kept us in some games this year, plus Rollins has been a rabbit out of the hat on D as well. They're graduating along with Scott, Frazier, Welch, and some other playmakers, so I'm not sure how we'll be in 2015. But Martin's third year should be where we make some waves.

(10-19-2014 09:15 AM)axeme Wrote:  By UMass standards, he is very good. By MAC standards, not so much.

I'll say he's very good by MAC standards, and so are a few of those receivers.

I'm more worried about their offense than I am of Toledo playing NIU.

Umass has two wins, even when they outplay people they have found a way to lose in 6 games. Theyre very young... So even if they throw for 500, they cant seem to close and i think Toledo should come out with a W. Im not sure they have seen a running game like ours either.

We play all P5 teams in OOC, see Boston College. It takes about 3 years to transform a high school player's muscle and body mass into a FBS to Pro player. That is why you see very few College Football players leaving early for the NFL. We've seen it but could struggle with it. Our defense line and line backers are mostly sophomores ans secondary mostly juniors.

Of the MAC games that I have seen this year, either live or on TV, UMass has the best QB and their receivers may be the best also. They are also much better coached than in the past.

(10-19-2014 09:04 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(10-19-2014 08:02 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(10-18-2014 10:09 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  no disrespect but a dominant MAC QB isn't one that is 2-6 with a loss to a team on 19 game losing streak.

Thanks for saving me the time, perimeter. No doubt the UMass guy is good but the fact that I have to call him "the UMass guy" shows what I'm talking about. Even casual fans could name Rothlesberger, Lynch, Harnish, Gradkowski and LeFouever(even if they couldn't spell them). And those teams won 9-12 games a year.

Perhaps if you said top MAC team with dominating QB. Fro has been here for 2 months, so talking about the last 2 years is bull. Will see next year on the win column as we will be a much stronger team. Currently we are one of the youngest teams in FBS football with 3 seniors and post grads. Next year we'll complete the transition and finally be up to the 85 scholarships.

I'm familiar with Fro from his days at Marshall. He's a good QB, but he's not a dominant QB yet. Think of Zac Dysert from Miami, in each of his last two seasons he threw for 3,500 but was just 4-8. That's good, but not dominant.