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For all the Ebola Hype, Please consider the nurses are heros
Whatever happens with the current outbreak and with whatever comes out of Africa in the future, these folks are key to stopping the virus, they are putting their lives at risk, and they need to be taken care of. Set aside judging their actions and judgement after the fact - those are really management issues that should've been addressed by the CDC and/or hospital.

This comes from the hospital web site...

http://texashealth.org/ebola-virus

edit: note that the gofundme link comes from the hospital website here: http://www.texashealth.org/news-alert.cf...l&ref=1891

Nina Pham by Sarah Strittmatter - GoFundMe

http://www.gofundme.com/fsqtbo Wrote:This is the official Go Fund Me account to help support Nina Pham and her family in their time of need.  Nina is the nurse who is currently fighting Ebola in Dallas Presbyterian Hospital as a result of her selfless devotion to nursing care for Ebola patient Eric Duncan.
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RE: For all the Ebola Hype, Please consider the nurses are heros
My wife...a nurse for 30 years and head of a County Health Department... said last night. "I might have to refuse to be involved today in the care of an ebola patient...I am not trained or supplied well enough to put myself in such risk." "I would not ask my staff to do it either...We are in a very dangerous situation...People have no idea how close we are to a full blown national disaster on the scale of the Spanish Flu....We are talking about a potential Plague."

My point is....These angels of mercy are scared. If we have an epidemic on our hands? We are going to see many of them suddenly refuse to be involved in treating patients. The blame is squarely on a lack of training, equipment and facilities. God help us if this happens.

Hopefully we have just gotten a wake up call and after this scare is over... we can address these issues as a nation. If we don't? We have no one to blame but ourselves.
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The nurse that was transferred to the NIH was walking on her own power. That's a good sign.
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FYI, the link above came from the hospital website. I've looked for one for Vinson, and saw this... edit: NOTE that the NINA PHAM link above is legitimate.

GoFundMe Campaign for Ebola Patient Amber Vinson Has Been Dubbed a Fake | Crowdfund Insider

http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2014/10/...bbed-fake/ Wrote:Earlier this week, Amber Vinson, one of the Texas nurses that was treating Ebola patient Thomas Duncan, traveled between Dallas, Texas and Cleveland, Ohio before finding out she was positive for the virus. The situation grabbed public attention and caused total chaos in the Cleveland and Akron areas, where she had reportedly stayed for several days before returning to Texas.
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(10-17-2014 08:22 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  My wife...a nurse for 30 years and head of a County Health Department... said last night. "I might have to refuse to be involved today in the care of an ebola patient...I am not trained or supplied well enough to put myself in such risk." "I would not ask my staff to do it either...We are in a very dangerous situation...People have no idea how close we are to a full blown national disaster on the scale of the Spanish Flu....We are talking about a potential Plague."

My point is....These angels of mercy are scared. If we have an epidemic on our hands? We are going to see many of them suddenly refuse to be involved in treating patients. The blame is squarely on a lack of training, equipment and facilities. God help us if this happens.

Hopefully we have just gotten a wake up call and after this scare is over... we can address these issues as a nation. If we don't? We have no one to blame but ourselves.

03-yes The worst thing we can do is treat the nurses like crap and drag their names through the mud after going through this...
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(10-17-2014 08:35 AM)I45owl Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 08:22 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  My wife...a nurse for 30 years and head of a County Health Department... said last night. "I might have to refuse to be involved today in the care of an ebola patient...I am not trained or supplied well enough to put myself in such risk." "I would not ask my staff to do it either...We are in a very dangerous situation...People have no idea how close we are to a full blown national disaster on the scale of the Spanish Flu....We are talking about a potential Plague."

My point is....These angels of mercy are scared. If we have an epidemic on our hands? We are going to see many of them suddenly refuse to be involved in treating patients. The blame is squarely on a lack of training, equipment and facilities. God help us if this happens.

Hopefully we have just gotten a wake up call and after this scare is over... we can address these issues as a nation. If we don't? We have no one to blame but ourselves.

03-yes The worst thing we can do is treat the nurses like crap and drag their names through the mud after going through this...

Is anyone doing that? There are scammers out there trying to make buck on it, but that happens all the time.
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One of my Ex-Girlfriends is a nurse in the hospital where the Liberian Ebola patient died. She and the other nurses have been told to self-monitor.
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(10-17-2014 08:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 08:35 AM)I45owl Wrote:  03-yes The worst thing we can do is treat the nurses like crap and drag their names through the mud after going through this...

Is anyone doing that? There are scammers out there trying to make buck on it, but that happens all the time.

I think people (including myself) have been critical of individuals' decisions to get on planes and cruise ships... I think there is the temptation to blame them. Likewise, Frieden's comments early on blaming Pham for not following protocols when he didn't know that for certain are not good.

I guess, stated differently, we should do what we can to support the nurses, doctors, lab technicians, etc, without giving them any reason to lose their motivation for being professionals.
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(10-17-2014 10:03 AM)I45owl Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 08:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 08:35 AM)I45owl Wrote:  03-yes The worst thing we can do is treat the nurses like crap and drag their names through the mud after going through this...

Is anyone doing that? There are scammers out there trying to make buck on it, but that happens all the time.

I think people (including myself) have been critical of individuals' decisions to get on planes and cruise ships... I think there is the temptation to blame them. Likewise, Frieden's comments early on blaming Pham for not following protocols when he didn't know that for certain are not good.

I guess, stated differently, we should do what we can to support the nurses, doctors, lab technicians, etc, without giving them any reason to lose their motivation for being professionals.

Agree 100%
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I've held off on posting this until I could get some sort of verification it's legit (because there were sadly some fake fundraising efforts).

Go Fund Me page for Amber Vinson

Mother of Nurse Who Contracted Ebola Details Weakened Daughter's Struggle - ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mother-nurs...=26339562# Wrote:With the family's approval, a friend has set up a GoFundMe page to help defray the costs associated with replacing Vinson's belongings that were destroyed to avoid potential contamination and expenses incurred by family members during her care and hospitalization at Emory, the family said.
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This is great news!

Dallas nurse Amber Vinson free of Ebola virus - The Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-yo...ola-virus/ Wrote:Amber Vinson, a Dallas nurse who contracted Ebola while caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, is now free of the virus, according to her family.
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(10-22-2014 09:54 PM)I45owl Wrote:  This is great news!

Dallas nurse Amber Vinson free of Ebola virus - The Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-yo...ola-virus/ Wrote:Amber Vinson, a Dallas nurse who contracted Ebola while caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, is now free of the virus, according to her family.

Nina's Dog apparently wasn't infected either.
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(10-23-2014 08:08 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 09:54 PM)I45owl Wrote:  This is great news!

Dallas nurse Amber Vinson free of Ebola virus - The Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-yo...ola-virus/ Wrote:Amber Vinson, a Dallas nurse who contracted Ebola while caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, is now free of the virus, according to her family.

Nina's Dog apparently wasn't infected either.

I still feel bad for that Spanish dog.
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They have shut down Nina Pham's gofundme after reaching their goal + about 20% extra.

Nina Pham by Sarah Strittmatter - GoFundMe

http://www.gofundme.com/fsqtbo Wrote:Thursday, October 23rd 2014

Thank you so much to everyone for your kind words and donations. The words spoken from so many hearts are a testament to human goodness and the ability to care deeply, not just for family and friends, but also for strangers.

We have reached our goal due to your compassion and generosity; these funds will greatly aid Nina's family, and help Nina to rebuild her life.

The outpouring of kindness, support, generosity, and love has been truly inspiring.

At this time, we are closing donations, and Nina requests that subsequent funds be donated to Doctors Without Borders to help combat Ebola abroad. https://donate.doctorswithoutborders.org/onetime.cfm
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(10-23-2014 08:48 PM)I45owl Wrote:  They have shut down Nina Pham's gofundme after reaching their goal + about 20% extra.

Nina Pham by Sarah Strittmatter - GoFundMe

http://www.gofundme.com/fsqtbo Wrote:Thursday, October 23rd 2014

Thank you so much to everyone for your kind words and donations. The words spoken from so many hearts are a testament to human goodness and the ability to care deeply, not just for family and friends, but also for strangers.

We have reached our goal due to your compassion and generosity; these funds will greatly aid Nina's family, and help Nina to rebuild her life.

The outpouring of kindness, support, generosity, and love has been truly inspiring.

At this time, we are closing donations, and Nina requests that subsequent funds be donated to Doctors Without Borders to help combat Ebola abroad. https://donate.doctorswithoutborders.org/onetime.cfm

Worker's Compensation and Renter's Insurance might cover many of these expenses aside from the travel costs from her family.
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I'd expect some incidentals that aren't covered, but I didn't really donate to them to cover medical costs. I did it partly because they got screwed by failures in planning, and as a symbolic gesture to demonstrate that their job isn't thankless. Personally, I don't care if they spend it on wedding expenses or hookers and blow.
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WTH?? Nina viral free after a week at NIH with no experimental therapies administered? I call BS on this. Lots more than just supportive treatment was administered. And of course the obligatory photo-op.

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - Dallas nurse Nina Pham, who was infected with the Ebola virus while treating Thomas Duncan, is now free of the deadly virus.

Pham will now be headed back to North Texas from Maryland where she had been receiving treatment at the National Institutes of Health facility in Bethesda.

Before she comes home, Pham met with President Obama in the Oval Office, where she received a hearty hug.

CBS 11 talked to Pham’s dad about the news, who said his daughter may be coming home to North Texas as early as today.

“I feel fortunate and blessed to be standing here today,” said Pham, while surrounded by her mother, her sister and NIH doctors at a Friday morning news conference. “I am on my way back to recovery, even as I reflect on how many others who have not been so fortunate.”

Pham thanked God, her family, friends, and all the people on the medical teams that took care of her in Texas and Maryland. “I would especially like to thank Dr. Kent Brantly for the selfless act of donating plasma to me,” said Pham.

She also thanked everyone for their prayers and offered her own to her colleague Amber Vinson and Dr. Craig Spencer, who is being treated for the disease in New York.

“I hope that people understand that this illness and this whole experience has been very stressful and challenging for me and for my family. Although I no longer have Ebola, I know that it may be awhile before I have my strength back. So with gratitude and respect for everyone’s concern, I ask for my privacy and for my family’s privacy to be respected, as I return to Texas and try to get back to a normal life and reunite with my dog Bentley,” she said with a huge smile.

According to a statement released by Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins that reunion will come very soon. “Although Bentley remains under quarantine until the end of the month, Nina will be able to visit, hold and play with him tomorrow. I know that will be good for both of them.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci, infectious disease chief at the NIH, gave Pham a hug and told reporters that five consecutive tests showed no virus left in her blood. Five tests is way beyond the norm, he stressed, but his team did extra testing because the NIH is a research hospital.

“She is cured of Ebola, let’s get that clear,” Fauci said.

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas released the following statement about Pham’s recovery:

“The Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas family is thrilled that Nina Pham is Ebola-free and on her way home. Her colleagues and friends eagerly look forward to welcoming her back. Her courage and spirit, first in treating a critically ill Ebola patient and then in winning her own battle against the disease, has truly inspired all of us.”

The second nurse, Amber Vinson, is being treated at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, which on Friday issued a statement saying she “is making good progress” and that tests no longer detect virus in her blood. But Emory said it had no discharge date for Vinson yet, as she continues to receive supportive care. Vinson’s family issued a statement Wednesday evening, which said she was regaining her strength and doctors were no longer able to detect the virus in her body.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/24/dalla...-hospital/


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In advance of Pham's arrival at NIH last week, Fauci, one of the most highly respected immunologists in the world, announced he would be her admitting physician.

On Friday, while wearing the colors of Pham's nursing school, Texas Christian, Fauci called her a "courageous and lovely person," saying that she also represents the nurses and healthcare workers who put themselves on the line caring for sick patients.

He said they did not administer any experimental drugs to Pham during her treatment at NIH.

Fauci said she was doing well in Texas, and continued to do well at NIH. "We both supported her, so I can't pinpoint in one patient, what was the turning point," he said.

Fauci said it was not possible to pinpoint whether Brantley's donation of plasma was critical in her recovery and that more research is needed.

He said Pham's youth and general health were likely other factors that likely helped, as was the fact that she entered a hospital that was able to give her intensive care early.

Presby? 05-stirthepot

[b]Oh I see the storm coming on this.... "Why wasnt Duncan taken to NIH/Emory? You let him die... [/b]

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...06212.html

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(10-24-2014 02:07 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  WTH?? Nina viral free after a week at NIH with no experimental therapies administered? I call BS on this. Lots more than just supportive treatment was administered. And of course the obligatory photo-op.

The overall survival rate of the current ebola outbreak is around 50% (WHO), that includes folks in Africa. So, just because someone didn't get some experimental drug doesn't mean they should have died.
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(10-24-2014 02:07 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  [b]Oh I see the storm coming on this.... "Why wasnt Duncan taken to NIH/Emory? You let him die... [/b]

Protesters at Presbyterian Hospital Dallas speak out about first Ebola patient’s treatment | Dallas Morning News

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/201...atment.ece Wrote:The protesters hunched on the ground to scrawl signs — “Eric Duncan is a human,” “This is where he came without his family seeing him,” “Why no phone call? Why Why Why.” And for most of an hour — as security watched but did not interfere — most kept their vow of silence.

A friend of Jallah’s spoke first. Janet Bright asked a herd of cameras to stop showing Duncan’s photo on TV.

Then Oliver Smallwood, Duncan’s nephew who also was recently released from quarantine, addressed reporters: “We’re not hoping to accomplish anything. We’re trying to get the message across that we’re all human.”

As Smallwood spoke, a woman behind him broke the silence for good. “How could you not save a soul if you have all the power in the world to help a person?” she screamed. “I’m hurt! I’m hurt!”
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(10-24-2014 02:20 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-24-2014 02:07 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  WTH?? Nina viral free after a week at NIH with no experimental therapies administered? I call BS on this. Lots more than just supportive treatment was administered. And of course the obligatory photo-op.

The overall survival rate of the current ebola outbreak is around 50% (WHO), that includes folks in Africa. So, just because someone didn't get some experimental drug doesn't mean they should have died.

But to go to zero viral load and well enough to meet the President in a week??
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