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That Fred Hansen won the gold medal in the pole vault at the Tokyo Olympics...setting an Olympic record in doing so. (I believe he held the world record at the time).
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(10-17-2014 08:04 AM)Houston Owl Wrote:  That Fred Hansen won the gold medal in the pole vault at the Tokyo Olympics...setting an Olympic record in doing so. (I believe he held the world record at the time).

He was the record holder for almost two years.
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(10-17-2014 08:40 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 08:04 AM)Houston Owl Wrote:  That Fred Hansen won the gold medal in the pole vault at the Tokyo Olympics...setting an Olympic record in doing so. (I believe he held the world record at the time).

He was the record holder for almost two years.

Correct.

Here's an account Hansen's eventful 1964 season, when he tied the world record in Houston (5.20 meters; June 5), set two world records (5.23m-June 13/San Diego; 5.28m/17-4, July 25/Los Angeles) (not three) and won the Olympic gold medal with an Olympic-record vault of 5.10 meters.

Quote:Up until 1964, Fred Hansen had made a slow but gradual improvement as a pole vaulter, reaching a personal best of 4.90m in 1963.

But in the early months of the 1964 season, Hansen rapidly exploded to become the world's premier vaulter. On 5 June, at Houston, Hansen cleared 5.20m, which equalled the world record. Unfortunately, this jump was not ratified as a world record, although it was accepted as a USA national record. Any possible controversy over this mark became irrelevant eight days later, when Fred set a new world record of 5.23m at San Diego. The following month, in a USA v Soviet Union international match at Los Angeles, Fred improved the record even further, when he cleared 5.28m on his first attempt.

Having qualified for the Olympic team to Tokyo after winning at the USA Olympic Trials on 12 September, Hansen was under even more pressure than his fellow competitors, as he carried the added responsibility of ensuring the maintenance of the USA's unbroken string of pole vault victories since 1896.

The final at Tokyo, held on 17 October, was a long, drawn out affair, lasting over nine hours. Hansen (see photo above) had no problem with the early heights during the afternoon, but the real competition started to unfold later in the evening when four vaulters all cleared 5.00m at their first attempt. Hansen then decided to pass at the next height of 5.05m, which only Wolfgang Reinhardt (West Germany) was able to clear.

Re-entering the competition at 5.10m, Hansen sensationally failed his first two attempts. With the possibility of the USA's winning streak coming to an end, Hansen easily cleared on his last attempt, and when Reinhardt failed, Fred had safely secured the gold medal.

Hansen subsequently retired soon after his Olympic victory. (Ron Casey)

Men's Pole Vault Final. Olympic Games 1964:

1. Frederick HANSEN USA 5.10m Olympic Record
2. Wolfgang REINHARDT GER 5.05m
3. Klaus LEHNERTZ GER 5.00m
4. Manfred PREUSSGER GDR 5.00m
5. Hennady BLYZNETSOV SOV 4.95m
6. Rudolf TOMASEK CZE 4.90m
7. Pentti NIKULA FIN 4.90m
8. Billy PEMELTON USA 4.80m

Nineteen-year-old Bob Seagren topped Hansen's record on May 14, 1966, with a 5.32m (17-5.5) vault at the West Coast Relays in Fresno.
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I think I saw Hansen's jump in Houston. I remember Rice, A&M and Texas being in the meet. It was a hot day at the Track stadium. Also, I remember Matson throwing the shot put for A&M.
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You may be thinking of Dave Roberts of Rice, if you're recalling Matson as a contemporary...?
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(10-17-2014 06:25 PM)75src Wrote:  Also, I remember Matson throwing the shot put for A&M.

Ooh, an opportunity for a linguistic digression...
The phrase "shot put" preserves two little bits of the rich history of the great English language.

- First, it preserves one of the original meanings of the verb "put". As most of you know, the phrase "shot put" is analogous to the phrase "discus throw", in that it describes an action rather than an object. The object that one throws (or "puts") is simply a shot. The phrase is interesting because it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the verb "put": "to push".

In fact, the two clearest (only?) modern examples of that archaic meaning of "put" both have to do with sports:

-- In track & field, where one "puts" the shot. The usage reflects the fact that when an athlete propels the shot, he was (and still is) sort of pushing it through the air rather than throwing it like a javelin or discus or baseball. So referring to the event as the "shot put" is more precise, and therefore more interesting, than calling it the "shot throw".

-- In golf, where "put" meaning "push" has morphed into the variant spelling/pronunciation "putt". Again, the action that the verb refers to reflects the "push" meaning of the word "put" quite clearly. Pushing a ball is a different act from hitting or striking it, and it's good to use a different word.

(It seems like it would have been reasonable if in baseball, a bunt had come to be called a "put" or "putt"; but that's not what happened. Language is anything but consistent!)

- Second, the word "shot" as used in track & field is also interesting, as it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the noun "shot": an object that is (or has been) propelled by shooting (as from a sling or catapult, long before gunpowder). That particular meaning survives today in the collective noun "shot" for the pellets in a shell; and obviously the more general meaning of "shot" as the act or result of shooting is quite common today. But the only modern example I can think of where "shot" is used today to refer to a single discrete object is the "shot" in track & field.

So a simple sports phrase preserves the ancient and otherwise-lost meanings of not one but two deceptively simple English words.
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(10-18-2014 09:52 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 06:25 PM)75src Wrote:  Also, I remember Matson throwing the shot put for A&M.

Ooh, an opportunity for a linguistic digression...
The phrase "shot put" preserves two little bits of the rich history of the great English language.

- First, it preserves one of the original meanings of the verb "put". As most of you know, the phrase "shot put" is analogous to the phrase "discus throw", in that it describes an action rather than an object. The object that one throws (or "puts") is simply a shot. The phrase is interesting because it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the verb "put": "to push".

In fact, the two clearest (only?) modern examples of that archaic meaning of "put" both have to do with sports:

-- In track & field, where one "puts" the shot. The usage reflects the fact that when an athlete propels the shot, he was (and still is) sort of pushing it through the air rather than throwing it like a javelin or discus or baseball. So referring to the event as the "shot put" is more precise, and therefore more interesting, than calling it the "shot throw".

-- In golf, where "put" meaning "push" has morphed into the variant spelling/pronunciation "putt". Again, the action that the verb refers to reflects the "push" meaning of the word "put" quite clearly. Pushing a ball is a different act from hitting or striking it, and it's good to use a different word.

(It seems like it would have been reasonable if in baseball, a bunt had come to be called a "put" or "putt"; but that's not what happened. Language is anything but consistent!)

- Second, the word "shot" as used in track & field is also interesting, as it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the noun "shot": an object that is (or has been) propelled by shooting (as from a sling or catapult, long before gunpowder). That particular meaning survives today in the collective noun "shot" for the pellets in a shell; and obviously the more general meaning of "shot" as the act or result of shooting is quite common today. But the only modern example I can think of where "shot" is used today to refer to a single discrete object is the "shot" in track & field.

So a simple sports phrase preserves the ancient and otherwise-lost meanings of not one but two deceptively simple English words.

i love this type of post, and think the Parliament is one of the few in America where this can be found.
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The Parliament is one of the few (only?) with G Webb!
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(10-18-2014 10:47 AM)ausowl Wrote:  The Parliament is one of the few (only?) with G Webb!

few. Definitely few. one of the only would mean one of the one.
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an off-shoot of the word "shot" as a noun is the use of "shotty" in medicine to describe , small, shot-sized lymph nodes, usually indicating benign, as opposed to nodes of malignant or infectitious origin.

(10-18-2014 09:52 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 06:25 PM)75src Wrote:  Also, I remember Matson throwing the shot put for A&M.

Ooh, an opportunity for a linguistic digression...
The phrase "shot put" preserves two little bits of the rich history of the great English language.

- First, it preserves one of the original meanings of the verb "put". As most of you know, the phrase "shot put" is analogous to the phrase "discus throw", in that it describes an action rather than an object. The object that one throws (or "puts") is simply a shot. The phrase is interesting because it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the verb "put": "to push".

In fact, the two clearest (only?) modern examples of that archaic meaning of "put" both have to do with sports:

-- In track & field, where one "puts" the shot. The usage reflects the fact that when an athlete propels the shot, he was (and still is) sort of pushing it through the air rather than throwing it like a javelin or discus or baseball. So referring to the event as the "shot put" is more precise, and therefore more interesting, than calling it the "shot throw".

-- In golf, where "put" meaning "push" has morphed into the variant spelling/pronunciation "putt". Again, the action that the verb refers to reflects the "push" meaning of the word "put" quite clearly. Pushing a ball is a different act from hitting or striking it, and it's good to use a different word.

(It seems like it would have been reasonable if in baseball, a bunt had come to be called a "put" or "putt"; but that's not what happened. Language is anything but consistent!)

- Second, the word "shot" as used in track & field is also interesting, as it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the noun "shot": an object that is (or has been) propelled by shooting (as from a sling or catapult, long before gunpowder). That particular meaning survives today in the collective noun "shot" for the pellets in a shell; and obviously the more general meaning of "shot" as the act or result of shooting is quite common today. But the only modern example I can think of where "shot" is used today to refer to a single discrete object is the "shot" in track & field.

So a simple sports phrase preserves the ancient and otherwise-lost meanings of not one but two deceptively simple English words.
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(10-18-2014 09:52 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 06:25 PM)75src Wrote:  Also, I remember Matson throwing the shot put for A&M.

Ooh, an opportunity for a linguistic digression...
The phrase "shot put" preserves two little bits of the rich history of the great English language.

- First, it preserves one of the original meanings of the verb "put". As most of you know, the phrase "shot put" is analogous to the phrase "discus throw", in that it describes an action rather than an object. The object that one throws (or "puts") is simply a shot. The phrase is interesting because it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the verb "put": "to push".

In fact, the two clearest (only?) modern examples of that archaic meaning of "put" both have to do with sports:

-- In track & field, where one "puts" the shot. The usage reflects the fact that when an athlete propels the shot, he was (and still is) sort of pushing it through the air rather than throwing it like a javelin or discus or baseball. So referring to the event as the "shot put" is more precise, and therefore more interesting, than calling it the "shot throw".

-- In golf, where "put" meaning "push" has morphed into the variant spelling/pronunciation "putt". Again, the action that the verb refers to reflects the "push" meaning of the word "put" quite clearly. Pushing a ball is a different act from hitting or striking it, and it's good to use a different word.

(It seems like it would have been reasonable if in baseball, a bunt had come to be called a "put" or "putt"; but that's not what happened. Language is anything but consistent!)

- Second, the word "shot" as used in track & field is also interesting, as it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the noun "shot": an object that is (or has been) propelled by shooting (as from a sling or catapult, long before gunpowder). That particular meaning survives today in the collective noun "shot" for the pellets in a shell; and obviously the more general meaning of "shot" as the act or result of shooting is quite common today. But the only modern example I can think of where "shot" is used today to refer to a single discrete object is the "shot" in track & field.

So a simple sports phrase preserves the ancient and otherwise-lost meanings of not one but two deceptively simple English words.

Hmm, and when we are vaccinated, we receive a shot, which is the act of pushing the medicine into our veins?
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(10-18-2014 09:45 PM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  
(10-18-2014 09:52 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(10-17-2014 06:25 PM)75src Wrote:  Also, I remember Matson throwing the shot put for A&M.

Ooh, an opportunity for a linguistic digression...
The phrase "shot put" preserves two little bits of the rich history of the great English language.

- First, it preserves one of the original meanings of the verb "put". As most of you know, the phrase "shot put" is analogous to the phrase "discus throw", in that it describes an action rather than an object. The object that one throws (or "puts") is simply a shot. The phrase is interesting because it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the verb "put": "to push".

In fact, the two clearest (only?) modern examples of that archaic meaning of "put" both have to do with sports:

-- In track & field, where one "puts" the shot. The usage reflects the fact that when an athlete propels the shot, he was (and still is) sort of pushing it through the air rather than throwing it like a javelin or discus or baseball. So referring to the event as the "shot put" is more precise, and therefore more interesting, than calling it the "shot throw".

-- In golf, where "put" meaning "push" has morphed into the variant spelling/pronunciation "putt". Again, the action that the verb refers to reflects the "push" meaning of the word "put" quite clearly. Pushing a ball is a different act from hitting or striking it, and it's good to use a different word.

(It seems like it would have been reasonable if in baseball, a bunt had come to be called a "put" or "putt"; but that's not what happened. Language is anything but consistent!)

- Second, the word "shot" as used in track & field is also interesting, as it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the noun "shot": an object that is (or has been) propelled by shooting (as from a sling or catapult, long before gunpowder). That particular meaning survives today in the collective noun "shot" for the pellets in a shell; and obviously the more general meaning of "shot" as the act or result of shooting is quite common today. But the only modern example I can think of where "shot" is used today to refer to a single discrete object is the "shot" in track & field.

So a simple sports phrase preserves the ancient and otherwise-lost meanings of not one but two deceptively simple English words.

Hmm, and when we are vaccinated, we receive a shot, which is the act of pushing the medicine into our veins?

My kids scream like they've been shot by a gun - before the needle ever touches them. *sigh* It's getting better with age/experience.
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Then there's the drinking "shot" (with its glass).
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If you are enjoying the direction of this thread, check out "shot" and "shoot" in the Online Etmyology Dictionary:
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I learned a 3rd meaning for the phrase "shoot the moon."
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(10-18-2014 09:52 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  - Second, the word "shot" as used in track & field is also interesting, as it is a rare modern example of one of the original meanings of the noun "shot": an object that is (or has been) propelled by shooting (as from a sling or catapult, long before gunpowder). That particular meaning survives today in the collective noun "shot" for the pellets in a shell; and obviously the more general meaning of "shot" as the act or result of shooting is quite common today. But the only modern example I can think of where "shot" is used today to refer to a single discrete object is the "shot" in track & field.

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