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(10-17-2014 09:30 AM)Murph29 Wrote:  He sounds like a welcome addition. But I agree with most here...too many articles and posts about Adam H and Abdul Herrera being the next big thing, about Rod Flowers and Rob Whaley tearing it up in summer league. I've been burned too many times...so any combination of article that talks about size and ability to lift small automobiles or guys tearing it up in the preseason make me wince a bit.

I guess I have never had the feeling that he has been hyped as the next big thing?

He is physically enormous and chiseled like a bodybuilder that much is known. He has some nice numbers from Hutchinson (a quality JUCO program) that include shooting stats that indicate some ability to put the ball in the bucket on the floor and from the stripe. But obviously this is a big transition for him.

I think the general consensus is that he has some skills, and considering we have been pretty desperate for physically strong defenders and size - that he has a great chance to help us.

I had to laugh about Herrara. I remember that well. He had some buzz coming in to town - but no one who saw him play in the SL would have come away with many positives. I remember watching him, he looked awful. So much so that it was even hard to see a guy who would one day be able to play at our level. I had far greater hopes for guys like Kelvin Gaines - who looked awful at first but had an insanely high level of athleticism.

Robert Whaley was easily one of the most talented players Huggins ever recruited. He was a finesse skill guy with a giants body. All the hype he received at least for his basketball upside was completely deserved. Unfortunately so were the questions regarding him being high risk both personally and academically and being unable to control himself emotionally. Whaley was taken in the NBA draft in 2005 by the Utah Jazz and played for a couple years until he completely blew out a knee.
 
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I forgot about Whaley. Isn't he doing time for running a trap house?
 
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(10-17-2014 06:34 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  I forgot about Whaley. Isn't he doing time for running a trap house?

Yeah, he did time for a few things I believe--the drug house, then the marijuana possession, and probation violations. Looks like he's been working on turning things around the past couple of years. Found an article from May about him--has apparently settled down and is an assistant coach for a youth AAU team in Utah: http://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile3/57953...l.html.csp
 
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(10-16-2014 01:02 PM)dossbig Wrote:  
(10-16-2014 12:53 PM)Marcus Wrote:  It will sure be nice to finally have some legitimate size on the roster. I like this roster a lot. I feel like it is the first time that they have strengths at every position. It may not show up this year with all the inexperience and youth, but I think it's setting up nicely for the next few years.

That's great if I cannot find a jack and have a flat tire and Mercedes Road Service is busy. More important is can he make 5 foot shots?

I thought your chauffeur would do the tire changing
 
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(10-16-2014 12:51 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  In addition to his basketball prowess, University of Cincinnati center Coreontae DeBerry has mastered the ability to deal graciously with the comments he hears so frequently about his gigantic hands.

"They always go, 'Wow, your hands are huge,' " DeBerry said. "I get it all the time, so I can laugh about it."

DeBerry's hands are indeed a source of wonder. They were measured before practice Tuesday and were found to extend 11 3/4 inches from thumb to pinky finger and 10 1/4 inches from palm to middle finger. When he grips the ball with those substantial hands, it's rare that anyone takes it away.

"That's the idea," he said, smiling.

Long before practice began last week, UC coach Mick Cronin had identified DeBerry as the newcomer who was best prepared to make an immediate impact for the Bearcats this s

"He's ready physically," Cronin said. "There's no question about that."

At 6-foot-10, 270 pounds, DeBerry has wingspan of 7 feet, 4 inches. With his size and shooting touch, he has the potential to provide UC with an offensive force around the basket that the Bearcats have lacked for the last few years. Last year at Hutchinson (Kansas) Community College, he averaged 11.8 points and 7.1 rebounds while shooting 69.7 percent from the field – which ranked third nationally – and 77.5 percent from the free-throw line.

Not since Yancy Gates averaged 12.2 points and 8.9 rebounds in 2011-12 have the Bearcats had the potential to field such a physically imposing player with polished offensive skills.

Cheikh Mbodj patrolled the middle two years ago and was a capable shot blocker, but was not an offensive force. Last year, Justin Jackson emerged to become a double-figure scorer and prolific shot-blocker, but at 6-8, 230, his production was the result of quickness and athleticism. Backup center David Nyarsuk was 7-1, but wasn't strong enough to become a go-to player in the low post the past two years. And highly touted 6-9 forward Jermaine Lawrence, who did not live up to his advance billing during the one year he spent at UC, considered himself a perimeter player offensively.

The Bearcats are hoping DeBerry will be different.

"He's so big and strong and powerful and knows how to use his body," said associate head coach Larry Davis, who recruited DeBerry. "In the last month, he's really begun to adjust to the speed level of this game. (Until now), he's always been so much bigger and stronger it didn't matter. He's skilled enough with his body and he's got such great hands. Now he's learning how to deal with the double-downs and the guards swarming him."

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Mick Cronin: UC Bearcats fans 'should be excited'
Most Division I big men have to work to get stronger when they step up to a higher level, but that hasn't been the case for DeBerry, who has been more focused on improving his agility.

"He can already lift a car," Cronin said. "He doesn't need to lift weights. We focused on agility and cardiovascular, so he can play harder and be more reactive. I get excited when I see guys that are listening and improving. He's done a lot of improving just from August until now."

DeBerry committed to Detroit Mercy out of Holland (Michigan) High School, but was rerouted to junior college after he failed to secure the test scores he needed to become eligible as a freshman. He played his first year at Mott Community College in Flint, where he averaged 9.2 points and 4.4 rebounds in 12.7 minutes per game.

He transferred to Hutchinson for his sophomore year and signed with UC before he ever played a minute there. With two years of eligibility remaining, he's eager to make in impact.

"Coach Cronin told me the only thing he wanted me to do was get rebounds, sprint the floor, just do whatever he tells me to do," DeBerry said. "I'm good at finishing around the basket, rebounding and scoring, and defense."

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/c.../17325215/

I Think of it as Blasphemy to even mention Mbodj or Nyarsuk in same breath as a Big man with basketball skills.
 
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(10-16-2014 10:39 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(10-16-2014 02:46 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(10-16-2014 01:02 PM)dossbig Wrote:  
(10-16-2014 12:53 PM)Marcus Wrote:  It will sure be nice to finally have some legitimate size on the roster. I like this roster a lot. I feel like it is the first time that they have strengths at every position. It may not show up this year with all the inexperience and youth, but I think it's setting up nicely for the next few years.

That's great if I cannot find a jack and have a flat tire and Mercedes Road Service is busy. More important is can he make 5 foot shots?

Dumb story. Reminds me of the upteen times during Huggins era games we heard abt how strong his players were. To which one of my all time fav Bearcat board commenters - Rounda32 - always noted was great info if basketball games were ultimately decided at midcourt by a bench press contest.

R.I.P. Rounda (he's not really dead. at least not that i know of. he's just gone from the boards. RIP to the old ESPN boards too while i'm at it.....what a wacky board it was)





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That board was awesome. My handle there was bearcatboywonder. It was a blend of sports and hilarity i havent seen since. Kman, rounda, ttyl, vesander. I hope bcd is still alive.

YEAH, I cringe at stories bragging on newcomers because in the past, most usually weren't anywheres close to being as good as the story was. I still wanna dry heave when I think of Derek Hollman, recruited under Huggins. He was huge and probably struggled to dunk....and who can forget Mike Reichenecker....remembers assistant coaches saying that Mike gets every rebound that is near him. That he's a rebounding machine....his career was mostly in practice. He struggled to score when he was in a game. And don't recall alot of rebounding going on either. I do think Gary Clark will be an impact player if he remains healthy. His love for the game and his dedication of working hard has to be a great attribute.
 
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Down the drive has been doing player profiles and Deberry was the most recent. In the write up, they said he averaged less than 6 minutes a game. Are these stats wrong? It says he averaged way 6

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013-...ew=gamelog
 
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(10-20-2014 10:07 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  Down the drive has been doing player profiles and Deberry was the most recent. In the write up, they said he averaged less than 6 minutes a game. Are these stats wrong? It says he averaged way 6

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013-...ew=gamelog

Looking at the gamelog, and without doing the math, he averaged in the low/mid 20 minutes per game. 6 is wrong.
 
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(10-20-2014 10:21 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 10:07 AM)coachpipe Wrote:  Down the drive has been doing player profiles and Deberry was the most recent. In the write up, they said he averaged less than 6 minutes a game. Are these stats wrong? It says he averaged way 6

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2013-...ew=gamelog

Looking at the gamelog, and without doing the math, he averaged in the low/mid 20 minutes per game. 6 is wrong.

Thats why I was wondering if the gamelogs are wrong, because in the past these juco gamelog sites have been incorrect. But I find it hard to believe he would average below 6 a game.
 
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