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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
10 cases out of 3,300 samples. all that study shows is that the virus exists in latin america which is not suprising considering it has shown up in asia, north america, africa, & europe during this time as well.
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 02:56 PM)john01992 Wrote: 10 cases out of 3,300 samples. all that study shows is that the virus exists in latin america which is not suprising considering it has shown up in asia, north america, africa, & europe during this time as well.
Hence it being called "rare".
There have been over 60,000 illegal immigrants, a good deal of the children, spread throughout the country since summer. Most came from Latin American countries.
So we have a rare disease that is found in countries where over 60,000 illegal immigrants have come from very recently that coincides with an alarming outbreak of this rare disease in the US.
Yep. Definitely racist to ask if the two are related. I never realized I hated Latin American people so much.
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10-16-2014 03:06 PM |
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john01992
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 03:06 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:56 PM)john01992 Wrote: 10 cases out of 3,300 samples. all that study shows is that the virus exists in latin america which is not suprising considering it has shown up in asia, north america, africa, & europe during this time as well.
Hence it being called "rare".
There have been over 60,000 illegal immigrants, a good deal of the children, spread throughout the country since summer. Most came from Latin American countries.
So we have a rare disease that is found in countries where over 60,000 illegal immigrants have come* from very recently that coincides** with an alarming outbreak of this rare disease in the US.
Yep. Definitely racist to ask if the two are related. I never realized I hated Latin American people so much.
*but also found on any other continent
**has appeared in this country on a regular basis since 87
FIFY
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200yrs2late
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 03:08 PM)john01992 Wrote: (10-16-2014 03:06 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:56 PM)john01992 Wrote: 10 cases out of 3,300 samples. all that study shows is that the virus exists in latin america which is not suprising considering it has shown up in asia, north america, africa, & europe during this time as well.
Hence it being called "rare".
There have been over 60,000 illegal immigrants, a good deal of the children, spread throughout the country since summer. Most came from Latin American countries.
So we have a rare disease that is found in countries where over 60,000 illegal immigrants have come* from very recently that coincides** with an alarming outbreak of this rare disease in the US.
Yep. Definitely racist to ask if the two are related. I never realized I hated Latin American people so much.
*but also found on any other continent
**has appeared in this country on a regular basis since 87
FIFY
(10-16-2014 03:08 PM)john01992 Wrote: *but also found on any other continent
*but the US hasn't absorbed 60,000 illegal immigrants from any other continent in the same time period.
(10-16-2014 03:08 PM)john01992 Wrote: **has appeared in this country on a regular basis since 87
*but in small, isolated cases. This year's outbreak is statistically significant and therefore should not be viewed as a 'normal' occurrence.
FIFY
You can't ignore deviations from the mean. Those two points alone should legitimize the question of whether or not the two are related, therefore making it not racist to ask.
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10-16-2014 03:20 PM |
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 03:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (10-16-2014 03:08 PM)john01992 Wrote: (10-16-2014 03:06 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:56 PM)john01992 Wrote: 10 cases out of 3,300 samples. all that study shows is that the virus exists in latin america which is not suprising considering it has shown up in asia, north america, africa, & europe during this time as well.
Hence it being called "rare".
There have been over 60,000 illegal immigrants, a good deal of the children, spread throughout the country since summer. Most came from Latin American countries.
So we have a rare disease that is found in countries where over 60,000 illegal immigrants have come* from very recently that coincides** with an alarming outbreak of this rare disease in the US.
Yep. Definitely racist to ask if the two are related. I never realized I hated Latin American people so much.
*but also found on any other continent
**has appeared in this country on a regular basis since 87
FIFY
(10-16-2014 03:08 PM)john01992 Wrote: *but also found on any other continent
*but the US hasn't absorbed 60,000 illegal immigrants from any other continent in the same time period.
(10-16-2014 03:08 PM)john01992 Wrote: **has appeared in this country on a regular basis since 87
*but in small, isolated cases. This year's outbreak is statistically significant and therefore should not be viewed as a 'normal' occurrence.
FIFY
You can't ignore deviations from the mean. Those two points alone should legitimize the question of whether or not the two are related, therefore making it not racist to ask.
john01992 simply wants to call you a rascist...it's what they do. The progressive/socialist state has failed...and so they lash out.
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10-16-2014 03:25 PM |
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 02:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:37 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:08 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (10-16-2014 01:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I think determining whether or not the disease came from "illegals" is not racist.
However, if a person uses that as a means to attempt to stop only Latin American immigrants from coming into this country, then YES, I think THAT could have a racial implication.
Okay, I'm done laughing my asss off now, so lemme see if I got this straight-
Determining whether or not the disease came from illegals immigrants is not racist. We good so far?
If it is determined that the answer to that is indeed yes, that is not racist. Check that too?
BUT if it is determined that those sick illegals are indeed Latin American, AND we decide to limit or check illegal latin american immigrants from entering sick and illegal, THAT would be racist.
Is that what I'm to get here?
So to recap- Hypothetically, of course, (I can pause here if you need to go look that up) the situation around D-68 is studied. It is determined through this study to what extent the current outbreak has been caused, and in large part it is by the tens of thousands of illegal immigrants that poured over the border in the past several months. It is also determined that the large majority of them came from Latin American Countries. It is then further determined that we should busy ourselves keeping Luca and Chloe from Switzerland out, otherwise this is a racist study and racist policy. Is that about right?
Someones kidding here, right? This is what passes as "logic" these days? God Help us.
It's racist if the restrictions are only put on one race of people.
Diseases can come from any race of people and from any country. Why restrict one race of people over another simply because the original person who brought the disease was from a particular race?
Wut? I just conducted the study above, the one you agreed wasn't racist and the findings were that the d-68 was brought in with the large influx of illegal immigrants pouring over from Latin America. But we shouldn't restrict them? Errrr, okay. Instead, we should worry about restricting the Japanese tourists?
You must actually work for the TSA. This is the same thing that passes as logic that has those morons patting down my 81 YO mother while ignoring the 18-28 YO male with the full beard boarding from Yemen...
Willie! Why do you rob banks?!? Cause that's where the money is... Think Fit. Think.
I never said you couldn't restrict them. I said you can't restrict only them.
Haha, well okay. So who else should w restrict? Just arbitrarily pick every 3rd person? Maybe anyone with a Bulls cap on backwards? I'd be okay with that. Should we simply restrict those shown to be likely carriers or already sick and then include some other group such as Italians just for schits and giggles?
You make NO sense. None. But it is apparent you will, or will try to, attach "RACISM" to anything you possibly can.
Pretty racist of you actually.
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10-16-2014 03:55 PM |
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 02:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I never said you couldn't restrict them. I said you can't restrict only them.
Nobody has really suggested that we ONLY stop Latinos from entering our country illegally. It is just that they make up a large portion of those who do so, AND according to the NIH, this particular disease is relatively more common (not common, but relatively so) within that population. FTR, anything that would keep d-68 from crossing our border would also likely catch ebola and most other things.
Think about most of the proposed solutions to illegal immigration... fences, border patrol, walls, etc etc You are essentially suggesting that we would build walls that would ONLY keep Latinos out. That if we used technology like other countries to identify people with fevers, that we would only use that on Latinos. That's just silly.
We have somewhat less to fear from our northern border because a) they are far wealthier than Mexico and b) they have their own effective immigration policies to keep significant numbers of people from other countries from using them as a way-station. c) few people can simply 'walk' from their country, across Canada and into the US.
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 04:05 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I never said you couldn't restrict them. I said you can't restrict only them.
Nobody has really suggested that we ONLY stop Latinos from entering our country illegally. It is just that they make up a large portion of those who do so, AND according to the NIH, this particular disease is relatively more common (not common, but relatively so) within that population. FTR, anything that would keep d-68 from crossing our border would also likely catch ebola and most other things.
Think about most of the proposed solutions to illegal immigration... fences, border patrol, walls, etc etc You are essentially suggesting that we would build walls that would ONLY keep Latinos out. That if we used technology like other countries to identify people with fevers, that we would only use that on Latinos. That's just silly.
We have somewhat less to fear from our northern border because a) they are far wealthier than Mexico and b) they have their own effective immigration policies to keep significant numbers of people from other countries from using them as a way-station. c) few people can simply 'walk' from their country, across Canada and into the US.
Interesting point and snag. Do we simply keep the tequila fully stocked on the other side, with plenty of sombreros? Would that keep them "home"?
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
Well with the thousands of commuters from Mexico to El Paso each day, I would think our hospitals would be inundated with viruses.... But they are not.
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10-16-2014 09:27 PM |
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RE: D-68 linked to illegal immigrants
(10-16-2014 09:27 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote: Well with the thousands of commuters from Mexico to El Paso each day, I would think our hospitals would be inundated with viruses.... But they are not.
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10-16-2014 10:56 PM |
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