(10-16-2014 10:44 AM)sham84 Wrote:  But is the point in college football to win conference championships or bowl championships?

Haha.

Seriously?

(10-16-2014 10:52 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:44 AM)sham84 Wrote:  But is the point in college football to win conference championships or bowl championships?

Haha.

Seriously?

You laugh but it definitely debatable.

Hypothetically:

Would you rather your program win 3 conference championship but go 0-3 in it's bowl games

or

Would you rather your program come in second every year but go 3-0 in bowl games?

I've seen this argument somewhere before...

"We've won more head to head matchups."
"Oh yeah, well we've won more championships."

(hint... we played a thursday night game against them a few weeks ago)

I'm looking forward to this game. The Cajuns had an impressive performance against TxSt, but it's hard to tell how much of that was UL playing better or TxSt flopping.

I think i'm going to give the edge to stAte, but I'm not betting on it.

(10-16-2014 10:44 AM)sham84 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:37 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  I really don't have to write a lot of paragraphs or provide stats.

The point is to win championships. We have three sets of rings. End of story.

If you do well this year and next, you can equal that.

But is the point in college football to win conference championships or bowl championships?

Well, for some it is to sell t-shirts, lose to Bama by less than three, have gold-plated locker rooms, lose in a better conference than yours, and have Herbstreit say something nice about you.

But in our corner of Arkansas the rings are the thing. Y'all?

Last I checked, the national championship was decided in a bowl game

(10-16-2014 10:55 AM)sham84 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:52 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:44 AM)sham84 Wrote:  But is the point in college football to win conference championships or bowl championships?

Haha.

Seriously?

You laugh but it definitely debatable.

Hypothetically:

Would you rather your program win 3 conference championship but go 0-3 in it's bowl games

or

Would you rather your program come in second every year but go 3-0 in bowl games?

This is sports. Championships are the goal.

I realize that this has been blurred in the modern marketing era. But I'll take our players earning rings every time.

(10-16-2014 10:55 AM)sham84 Wrote:  You laugh but it definitely debatable.

It's only debatable to teams who finished second.

(10-16-2014 10:58 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:44 AM)sham84 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:37 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  I really don't have to write a lot of paragraphs or provide stats.

The point is to win championships. We have three sets of rings. End of story.

If you do well this year and next, you can equal that.

But is the point in college football to win conference championships or bowl championships?

Well, for some it is to sell t-shirts, lose to Bama by less than three, have gold-plated locker rooms, lose in a better conference than yours, and have Herbstreit say something nice about you.

But in our corner of Arkansas the rings are the thing. Y'all?

We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

That's almost as many rings as stAte has in three years.

Good job!

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:58 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:44 AM)sham84 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:37 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  I really don't have to write a lot of paragraphs or provide stats.

The point is to win championships. We have three sets of rings. End of story.

If you do well this year and next, you can equal that.

But is the point in college football to win conference championships or bowl championships?

Well, for some it is to sell t-shirts, lose to Bama by less than three, have gold-plated locker rooms, lose in a better conference than yours, and have Herbstreit say something nice about you.

But in our corner of Arkansas the rings are the thing. Y'all?

We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

They are.

(10-16-2014 11:07 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

That's almost as many rings as stAte has in three years.

Good job!

So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:58 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:44 AM)sham84 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 10:37 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  I really don't have to write a lot of paragraphs or provide stats.

The point is to win championships. We have three sets of rings. End of story.

If you do well this year and next, you can equal that.

But is the point in college football to win conference championships or bowl championships?

Well, for some it is to sell t-shirts, lose to Bama by less than three, have gold-plated locker rooms, lose in a better conference than yours, and have Herbstreit say something nice about you.

But in our corner of Arkansas the rings are the thing. Y'all?

We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

We have 5 rings in 3 years.

Again, we're splitting hairs.

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

I'm fine with the attention that stAte receives.

I wouldn't trade the past three championships for more attention.

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:07 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

That's almost as many rings as stAte has in three years.

Good job!

So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

Not lose a coach every year. We get overlooked because no one honestly expects we can continue to repeat the feat. To our fans, its irksome, but its not some major deal. We wouldn't trade a conference title for more exposure.

If we go 10-2 and Anderson leaves...we'll just collect our 3 million dollars and hire someone else.

(10-16-2014 11:16 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:07 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

That's almost as many rings as stAte has in three years.

Good job!

So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

Not lose a coach every year. We get overlooked because no one honestly expects we can continue to repeat the feat. To our fans, its irksome, but its not some major deal. We wouldn't trade a conference title for more exposure.

If we go 10-2 and Anderson leaves...we'll just collect our 3 million dollars and hire someone else.

That should bring you more attention

(10-16-2014 11:13 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

I'm fine with the attention that stAte receives.

I wouldn't trade the past three championships for more attention.

Obviously some of you aren't

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:07 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

That's almost as many rings as stAte has in three years.

Good job!

So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

Probably market, not having a major sports city nearby, and a state sports media that is just a marketing arm for another school.

(10-16-2014 11:20 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:13 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

I'm fine with the attention that stAte receives.

I wouldn't trade the past three championships for more attention.

Obviously some of you aren't

I'm not willing to trade championships for recognition. That doesn't mean the lack of recognition isn't irksome.

(10-16-2014 11:23 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:07 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

That's almost as many rings as stAte has in three years.

Good job!

So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

Probably market, not having a major sports city nearby, and a state sports media that is just a marketing arm for another school.

We are a pimple on louisianas butt when it comes to market share

(10-16-2014 09:58 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  For all practical purposes the winner of this game will be the leader for the Sun Belt Title or a share with GaSo how skates to a schedule without either stAte or Louisiana on it for 2 years.

Or we could look at it the other way around and say you are avoiding Southern for 2 seasons.

(10-16-2014 11:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:07 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:04 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We have 4 rings in 3 years if rings are your thing

That's almost as many rings as stAte has in three years.

Good job!

So what is it that stAte is doing wrong? What will you have to do to not be perceived as 2nd? Why does nobody notice y'all? Serious question? Y'all have had dynamic coaches also so why would you not get the attention that we are getting?

As a newbie to the Sun Belt, my perception was (and still is) that stAte is the premier team in the conference. Part of that is to due with the high profile coaches they have had as well as TV exposure. I've seen stAte on TV more than any other SBC team over the past 4-5 years.

As for this game? I'm afraid the Cajuns will be disappointed and that stAte wins big.