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O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/mi.../17308755/

Article on how an UofM AD is in the middle of how big money, politics, corporate America, tradition and changing culture (at UofM), etc. etc. all come together within something like athletics.

Little known fact: He was once a regent for CMU.

I found the politics interesting. Brandon is a Michigan GOP star with a lot of connections to affluent businessmen (e.g., billionaire Stephen Ross) yet answers to a board (regents) dominated by Democrats.

He was former CEO of Dominos whose biggest rival is the Denise (and Mike) Ilitches' Little Caesars. Denise is on the UofM board.

Who thought I would be posting on pizza at 5:30 a.m. Lol.

P.S. I have a strong preference in the pizza wars...

EDIT: BTW, I assume Denise is the daughter of Mike and Mariam Ilitch. Christopher Ilitch is huge in running the real estate part of the Ilitch empire.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
(10-16-2014 04:35 AM)emu steve Wrote:  http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/mi.../17308755/

Article on how an UofM AD is in the middle of how big money, politics, corporate America, tradition and changing culture (at UofM), etc. etc. all come together within something like athletics.

Little known fact: He was once a regent for CMU.

I found the politics interesting. Brandon is a Michigan GOP star with a lot of connections to affluent businessmen (e.g., billionaire Stephen Ross) yet answers to a board (regents) dominated by Democrats.

He was former CEO of Dominos whose biggest rival is the Denise (and Mike) Ilitches' Little Caesars. Denise is on the UofM board.

Who thought I would be posting on pizza at 5:30 a.m. Lol.

P.S. I have a strong preference in the pizza wars...

Sounds like the munchies bro.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
Dead man walking along with Hoke.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
Against ALL ODDS, Brandon has proven that it really is possible to lose even when you have the most money, most tradition, best facilities, and top 10 recruiting classes. If he can screw up U-M, imagine what he'd do to EMU.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
(10-16-2014 11:19 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Against ALL ODDS, Brandon has proven that it really is possible to lose even when you have the most money, most tradition, best facilities, and top 10 recruiting classes. If he can screw up U-M, imagine what he'd do to EMU.

I want to see the rugby stadium.

Impoverished EMU has 1970s lighting while UofM squanders money on a rugby stadium (hope no rugby players are out there reading this... 05-nono).
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
(10-16-2014 11:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(10-16-2014 11:19 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Against ALL ODDS, Brandon has proven that it really is possible to lose even when you have the most money, most tradition, best facilities, and top 10 recruiting classes. If he can screw up U-M, imagine what he'd do to EMU.

I want to see the rugby stadium.

Impoverished EMU has 1970s lighting while UofM squanders money on a rugby stadium (hope no rugby players are out there reading this... 05-nono).

I want to see it too, played Rugby in High School.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
(10-16-2014 11:19 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Against ALL ODDS, Brandon has proven that it really is possible to lose even when you have the most money, most tradition, best facilities, and top 10 recruiting classes. If he can screw up U-M, imagine what he'd do to EMU.

Seriously. He should never be allowed to work in athletics again.

That being said, he'll probably be future governor of the state I suppose.
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Gone this afternoon per Detroit Free Press.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colleg.../18243343/
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Dear Friends,
Who really cares?
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(10-31-2014 02:18 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Who really cares?

Just so long as UofM doesn't hire any MAC ADs.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
Too many people find their identity in the success of a football team. They're immature and embarassing.

While almost every school in the nation has to subsidize it's athletic department, uofm is at worst breaking even.

I couldn't believe the heat he took over the head shot his QB took a few weeks ago. He had nothing to do with it or the managment of the player's immediate well being. It's amazing how much childish hatred it revealed.

Observe this situation and it will become readily apparent why so much cheating goes on in college sports.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
(10-31-2014 03:02 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Too many people find their identity in the success of a football team. They're immature and embarassing.

While almost every school in the nation has to subsidize it's athletic department, uofm is at worst breaking even.

I couldn't believe the heat he took over the head shot his QB took a few weeks ago. He had nothing to do with it or the managment of the player's immediate well being. It's amazing how much childish hatred it revealed.

Observe this situation and it will become readily apparent why so much cheating goes on in college sports.

UM is awash in cash.

The Morris incident generated so much anger because Dave Brandon has treated UM fans, students, and alumni badly. He has raised tickets prices for students, banned water(whilst charging for it inside the stadium), treated UM football like a brand, wrote arrogantly dismissive and insulting emails to alums, changed the student section to general seating(previously had assigned seats), and hired Brady “47-50” Hoke to replace Rich Rodriguez. This last one is particularly bitter for some UM fans because of the lack of support RR got when he was in Ann Arbor.

The Morris incident was simply the breaking point for many.

I don’t necessarily disagree with your first sentence, but I think this situation is much more complicated than you realize. Dave Brandon has earned his dismissal and much of it has nothing to do with Shane Morris’ concussion. No business can have as manager a person who regularly angers the customers. That is what Dave Brandon did.

Did Brandon do good things? Yes, but his mistakes shined more brightly than his accomplishments.That’s the truth of the situation.
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RE: O/T: Good article on Brandon at UofM
(10-31-2014 06:57 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(10-31-2014 03:02 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Too many people find their identity in the success of a football team. They're immature and embarassing.

While almost every school in the nation has to subsidize it's athletic department, uofm is at worst breaking even.

I couldn't believe the heat he took over the head shot his QB took a few weeks ago. He had nothing to do with it or the managment of the player's immediate well being. It's amazing how much childish hatred it revealed.

Observe this situation and it will become readily apparent why so much cheating goes on in college sports.

UM is awash in cash.

The Morris incident generated so much anger because Dave Brandon has treated UM fans, students, and alumni badly. He has raised tickets prices for students, banned water(whilst charging for it inside the stadium), treated UM football like a brand, wrote arrogantly dismissive and insulting emails to alums, changed the student section to general seating(previously had assigned seats), and hired Brady “47-50” Hoke to replace Rich Rodriguez. This last one is particularly bitter for some UM fans because of the lack of support RR got when he was in Ann Arbor.

The Morris incident was simply the breaking point for many.

I don’t necessarily disagree with your first sentence, but I think this situation is much more complicated than you realize. Dave Brandon has earned his dismissal and much of it has nothing to do with Shane Morris’ concussion. No business can have as manager a person who regularly angers the customers. That is what Dave Brandon did.

Did Brandon do good things? Yes, but his mistakes shined more brightly than his accomplishments.That’s the truth of the situation.

And if they were winning all those transgressions would've been overlooked.
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(10-31-2014 06:57 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(10-31-2014 03:02 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Too many people find their identity in the success of a football team. They're immature and embarassing.

While almost every school in the nation has to subsidize it's athletic department, uofm is at worst breaking even.

I couldn't believe the heat he took over the head shot his QB took a few weeks ago. He had nothing to do with it or the managment of the player's immediate well being. It's amazing how much childish hatred it revealed.

Observe this situation and it will become readily apparent why so much cheating goes on in college sports.

UM is awash in cash...

And Brandon raised the price of season tickets on UofM students.

To me, Brandon is the poster (whatever) of all that is wrong with American society.

Pure greed. How much is enough for UofM athletics? Can one have 'too much'? (not according to Brandon, I'd guess). They (UofM and others) continue to enlarge stadiums which are becoming more like monuments not athletic facilities.

Using rough numbers, UofM might have say 15K student tickets and the ticket price raise was what 100 bucks or so. That comes out to 1.5M per season. Chump change for UofM athletics (which just received a 100M gift). I'd assume the UofM athletic budget is over 100M per year.

Totally tone deaf. Brandon never got it.

Students are STAKEHOLDERS in UofM, they are not 2nd class customers* in some foreign country.

There is a book titled: "Greedy Bastards..." Brandon should get his own chapter for his chutzpah.

Some years ago I developed a trinity approach to business: There are three sets of stakeholders of a corporation: 1). Stockholders who are represented by the board of directors and management. 2). Customers who are entitled to good and services which have value and are safe if used as intended. Government and the courts are there to protect consumers. 3). Employees who are entitled to fair wages and benefits and safe working conditions. They are protected by labor unions, government and the courts.

One could argue that UofM football players are quasi-employees of the university. That is a debate in college athletics today.

Students do not fit nicely into my paradigm although I'd guess customer isn't a bad bucket to put them.
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UM atheletics budget is about $200mil. For scale: FSU is about 100 and EMU is 27.
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(11-01-2014 08:03 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  
(10-31-2014 06:57 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(10-31-2014 03:02 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Too many people find their identity in the success of a football team. They're immature and embarassing.

While almost every school in the nation has to subsidize it's athletic department, uofm is at worst breaking even.

I couldn't believe the heat he took over the head shot his QB took a few weeks ago. He had nothing to do with it or the managment of the player's immediate well being. It's amazing how much childish hatred it revealed.

Observe this situation and it will become readily apparent why so much cheating goes on in college sports.

UM is awash in cash.

The Morris incident generated so much anger because Dave Brandon has treated UM fans, students, and alumni badly. He has raised tickets prices for students, banned water(whilst charging for it inside the stadium), treated UM football like a brand, wrote arrogantly dismissive and insulting emails to alums, changed the student section to general seating(previously had assigned seats), and hired Brady “47-50” Hoke to replace Rich Rodriguez. This last one is particularly bitter for some UM fans because of the lack of support RR got when he was in Ann Arbor.

The Morris incident was simply the breaking point for many.

I don’t necessarily disagree with your first sentence, but I think this situation is much more complicated than you realize. Dave Brandon has earned his dismissal and much of it has nothing to do with Shane Morris’ concussion. No business can have as manager a person who regularly angers the customers. That is what Dave Brandon did.

Did Brandon do good things? Yes, but his mistakes shined more brightly than his accomplishments.That’s the truth of the situation.

And if they were winning all those transgressions would've been overlooked.
But they aren’t and that’s on Brandon as he is the one who hired Hoke. Brady Hoke’s record has gotten worse every year since 2011. The man is in over his head. Brady Hoke is emblematic of Dave Brandon’s decision making skills. Hoke is the physical embodiment of Brandon’s failures as athletic director.

In retrospect it is mind boggling that Michigan would hire a guy with a career losing record as head coach. It didn’t work for Auburn and Gene Chizik save for one season and it clearly is not working for Michigan.

Cronyism of the type that we saw at Michigan is what kills football programs. All athletic programs ought to learn from the disaster in Ann Arbor.
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Did Brandon do good things? Yes
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Like what?

He inherited Beilein and the basketball program.

The athletic facility renovations were put into place by previous AD Bill Martin.

Obviously, he destroyed the football program. Not only that, but he is responsible for overseeing the erasure of a 10-year waiting list for season football tickets.

I guess he was a good fundraiser? I could do that job, considering UM has the largest living alumni base in the nation.
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