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RE: Aresco to the SEC?
(10-14-2014 09:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:25 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  It wouldn't be the first time that the SEC hired a commissioner of a conference that was below the top level, yet was a conference with strong basketball heritage programs and emerging/developing football programs.
Michael Slive, take a bow.

Sure, Mike Slive was from Conference USA through 2002 and became SEC Commish after.

2014 is not 2002 in college football. Aresco is not Slive.

The needs for an SEC Commish in 2014 are different than in 2002.
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RE: Aresco to the SEC?
(10-14-2014 10:10 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:25 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  It wouldn't be the first time that the SEC hired a commissioner of a conference that was below the top level, yet was a conference with strong basketball heritage programs and emerging/developing football programs.
Michael Slive, take a bow.

Sure, Mike Slive was from Conference USA through 2002 and became SEC Commish after.

2014 is not 2002 in college football. Aresco is not Slive.

The needs for an SEC Commish in 2014 are different than in 2002.

Right, knowledge of national/regional/cable network negotiations is a "must-have" in 2014 and wasn't nearly as important in 2002. Conferences now have attorneys to handle all of the legal stuff. :)
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RE: Aresco to the SEC?
(10-14-2014 10:32 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 10:10 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:25 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  It wouldn't be the first time that the SEC hired a commissioner of a conference that was below the top level, yet was a conference with strong basketball heritage programs and emerging/developing football programs.
Michael Slive, take a bow.

Sure, Mike Slive was from Conference USA through 2002 and became SEC Commish after.

2014 is not 2002 in college football. Aresco is not Slive.

The needs for an SEC Commish in 2014 are different than in 2002.

Right, knowledge of national/regional/cable network negotiations is a "must-have" in 2014 and wasn't nearly as important in 2002. Conferences now have attorneys to handle all of the legal stuff. :)

I get being proud of what Aresco for what we believe has done for the American. But the perception of him outside the American is that he oversaw the dismantling of a BCS conference into a second tier league. It is a perception of failure not one of success.

Slive was different. He oversaw creation and success at ConfUSA. His skills as a lawyer and commissioner helped them as a start-up league in a time of expansion of college sports There was a general air of success about ConfUSA that doesn't exist for the American or for Aresco (yet).
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RE: Aresco to the SEC?
(10-14-2014 10:41 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 10:32 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 10:10 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:25 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  It wouldn't be the first time that the SEC hired a commissioner of a conference that was below the top level, yet was a conference with strong basketball heritage programs and emerging/developing football programs.
Michael Slive, take a bow.

Sure, Mike Slive was from Conference USA through 2002 and became SEC Commish after.

2014 is not 2002 in college football. Aresco is not Slive.

The needs for an SEC Commish in 2014 are different than in 2002.

Right, knowledge of national/regional/cable network negotiations is a "must-have" in 2014 and wasn't nearly as important in 2002. Conferences now have attorneys to handle all of the legal stuff. :)

I get being proud of what Aresco for what we believe has done for the American. But the perception of him outside the American is that he oversaw the dismantling of a BCS conference into a second tier league. It is a perception of failure not one of success.

Slive was different. He oversaw creation and success at ConfUSA. His skills as a lawyer and commissioner helped them as a start-up league in a time of expansion of college sports There was a general air of success about ConfUSA that doesn't exist for the American or for Aresco (yet).

Brother, I'm only half serious....maybe not even half.

It's not worth arguing about, hence the smile after my last post.

I don't think Aresco has a legitimate shot at the SEC job.

I just found the topic to be odd since the current SEC commish came from our previous conference. However, I am convinced that Aresco would do a better job than Banowsky. :)
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(10-14-2014 10:49 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 10:41 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 10:32 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 10:10 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 09:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Michael Slive, take a bow.

Sure, Mike Slive was from Conference USA through 2002 and became SEC Commish after.

2014 is not 2002 in college football. Aresco is not Slive.

The needs for an SEC Commish in 2014 are different than in 2002.

Right, knowledge of national/regional/cable network negotiations is a "must-have" in 2014 and wasn't nearly as important in 2002. Conferences now have attorneys to handle all of the legal stuff. :)

I get being proud of what Aresco for what we believe has done for the American. But the perception of him outside the American is that he oversaw the dismantling of a BCS conference into a second tier league. It is a perception of failure not one of success.

Slive was different. He oversaw creation and success at ConfUSA. His skills as a lawyer and commissioner helped them as a start-up league in a time of expansion of college sports There was a general air of success about ConfUSA that doesn't exist for the American or for Aresco (yet).

Brother, I'm only half serious....maybe not even half.

It's not worth arguing about, hence the smile after my last post.

I don't think Aresco has a legitimate shot at the SEC job.

I just found the topic to be odd since the current SEC commish came from our previous conference. However, I am convinced that Aresco would do a better job than Banowsky. :)

Fair enough and yes its hard to tell how serious someone is even with smilies.

Sounds like we both have the same amount bewilderment over the premise of the original OP...but maybe he wasn't quite so serious either ;-)
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The SEC can have Aresco, although they may have to fight off the ACC for him. We all know how much that conference likes Big East/American products... 07-coffee3
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There is nobody I would rather have as commissioner than Aresco and I would hate to lose him. I suspect that after coming this far with the AAC, fighting an uphill battle every step, he has an emotional investment and wants to see our conference reach its full potential. I don't think there has ever been a commissioner who worked harder than he has.
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The AAC should be very concerned about losing Aresco. Aresco saved this league and has been able to cobble together our tv contract based solely on his reputation and contacts in the business. People are being naive if they think that Aresco and his connections are not vital to this league.

Aresco is a tv guy with many many friends in that business. I am convinced that the scraps we have would have been far less had Aresco not been at the helm.
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(10-14-2014 08:36 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 03:38 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(10-14-2014 03:31 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  He is a good salesman. Would hate to see him go.

Not a big loss. Hustling around and talking nice is not hard, negotiating TV deals and bowl contracts, that's what separates the good from the great.

I'm sorry but you are crazy if you believe that crap. This guy has been in our corner since day one. He won't get the SEC job because it will go to Sankey in the SEC office.

If we lost Aresco at this point, then the AAC will suffer. Be careful for what you wish for.

Suffer how? Lower TV contract, worse bowls.....the reality is simple, the TV contract stinks and we are years away from re-negotiating. The bowls pretty much stink. For how damaged a product the AAC was at the time, we are worth more than 10% of the B12 and less than half of the Bball only Big East.

As a TU fan I am ecstatic about being in the league, it was a life preserver we may not deserve. Aresco seems like a gentleman but he was brought in for TV $ and failed. Promoting the conference is his dam job and people are giving him credit for doing said job. I mean his salary is almost 5% of our entire TV contract. Add in the rest of the staff and travel and you are talking a large junk, puts things in perspective.

I don't see it as a big loss, I would prefer he doesn't go anywhere but he is very replaceable. Just my opinion.
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The AAC should be very concerned about losing Aresco. Aresco saved this league and has been able to cobble together our tv contract based solely on his reputation and contacts in the business. People are being naive if they think that Aresco and his connections are not vital to this league.

Aresco is a tv guy with many many friends in that business. I am convinced that the scraps we have would have been far less had Aresco not been at the helm.
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(10-14-2014 10:41 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  I get being proud of what Aresco for what we believe has done for the American. But the perception of him outside the American is that he oversaw the dismantling of a BCS conference into a second tier league. It is a perception of failure not one of success.

That is soooooooo far from the truth.

The perception of Aresco is that he directed a successful transition, after the split with the C7, and spearheaded a new brand that won the Fiesta Bowl and the Men's and Women's National Basketball titles in just ONE year.
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Terry Holland confirmed!05-stirthepot
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Aresco has zero chance for the SEC job. He has not done anything yet for the AAC. He got us a terrible dollar TV contract.
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(10-17-2014 06:54 AM)Savacool Wrote:  Aresco has zero chance for the SEC job. He has not done anything yet for the AAC. He got us a terrible dollar TV contract.

I'd think a Tulane fan would be licking Aresco's boots. The only reason Tulane is in the conference is because Aresco listened to Dr Hitt at UCF.

http://articles.courant.com/2013-01-29/s...sco-tulane

As for dollars on the TV deal, Tulane had more to do with that than Aresco did.

Mind you, I like Tulane. But, I find that comment hard to swallow from a Green Wave fan. You should just say thanks for the life vest and try not to blush. Improve your programs before you complain and pass judgement.

If Aresco had a full company of Knights and Huskies, we would have gotten a great deal. Unfortunately, Tulane cost him the Western Division (Boise and SDST) and the C7.

So, you could say, Tulane was a VERY EXPENSIVE acquisition, and we paid for you with our TV deal.

Don't you think we could have done better with Georgetown, Marquette, Boise State, SDSU...? probably Fresno St, maybe Colorado State..??

But, we didn't go that way. We added Tulane. The Marquette AD freaked. The Boise Prez started exploring his options.

And, yet, you have the gull to blast Aresco. I've heard it all. lmao.

I could understand others being more critical. However, at the end of the day, I think we were fortunate to cut ties with those other teams. ECU has pulled enough weight for me to see the brighter side of that swap. Of course a Fiesta Bowl title and both basketball national championships wasn't a bad consolation prize either.

The exposure we got on the contract really showcased our brand during those runs last year. Methinks, the media pimp must have had an angel on his shoulder throughout all that upheaval. Now he has more to sell, and we aren't stretched (and divided) in so many directions as we split the pot.

We'll see.
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Nope, the SEC is going to hire https://twitter.com/DanBeebe 03-wink
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