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2nd Health Worker Tests Positive for Ebola
Morning Joe reports a second health care worker in Dallas tested positive for Ebola. Sounds unbelievable that so few things were done to prevent this. The guy that died may have been left with seven other patients for an extended length of time.
10-15-2014 06:58 AM
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Yup but nothing to worry about.
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This is beyond ridiculous. That they blamed the first nurse for not following protocol seems absurd now. How could they screw this up?
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Sounds as if they were only wearing flimsy protection, nothing covering their necks for instance.
Evidently these hospital doctors and workers have no idea, or equipment to handle Ebola.
Can see why the CDC said yesterday they would send a team to any hospital in the US that
reports an Ebola case.
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..........and somehow, we just can't stop flights from West Africa from coming here. Really? It's not far from purposely having unprotected sex with someone that is HIV positive...........just asking for the importation of a deadly disease.

but no - our government has all the answers - just ask them. Until they say "Ooops".
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It's obvious that the Hospital doesn't gave the necessary equipment to treat Ebola patients. I'm wondering how many additional Health Care Workers will become infected treating these two.
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(10-15-2014 08:25 AM)Crebman Wrote:  ..........and somehow, we just can't stop flights from West Africa from coming here. Really? It's not far from purposely having unprotected sex with someone that is HIV positive...........just asking for the importation of a deadly disease.

but no - our government has all the answers - just ask them. Until they say "Ooops".

how many flights actually come here directly from there? Most are bouncing off of Europe.
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Insane that We are sending Our troops over there for airborne disease that no one has a way to stop while fighting is going on and folks dying by ISIS that can be stopped. We could be infecting thousands of families and friends when They return home if They hadn't already been brought down by the disease first.
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(10-15-2014 09:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Insane that We are sending Our troops over there for airborne disease that no one has a way to stop while fighting is going on and folks dying by ISIS that can be stopped. We could be infecting thousands of families and friends when They return home if They hadn't already been brought down by the disease first.

Ebola is airborne now?
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(10-15-2014 09:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Insane that We are sending Our troops over there for airborne disease that no one has a way to stop while fighting is going on and folks dying by ISIS that can be stopped. We could be infecting thousands of families and friends when They return home if They hadn't already been brought down by the disease first.

eh, (1) ISIS is more likely to be airborne than Ebola, (2) we absolutely do know how to stop Ebola, and the track record is proven, but it takes time and resources to be dedicated to it, (3) we have no clue and no proven track on how to stop ISIS, (4) it would be foolish to bring troops home into the general population without having them spend a few weeks, say as guards in Guantanamo, but I don't doubt our capacity to do something foolish at this stage.

The comparison is a horrendously bad one, as I don't think you'd send the corps of engineers to Syria to deal with ISIS, nor would you send special forces and combat troops to deal with Ebola. But, I think you've managed to get every part of the comparison wrong.

Furthermore, if you wan't to keep your family safe from Ebola, worry more about what's going on in West Africa and worry less about how badly mismanaged the hospital in Dallas is. Even if this does extend to 5, 10 or 80 cases in Dallas it can be managed far more easily than what's happening in Africa now. I consider the spread of the disease in Africa to be a far greater risk than the hospital here, and I'm about 3-4 miles from Presbyterian hospital right now.
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Ebola Reston which was a non lethal variant of Ebola Zaire was airborne. This actually scares the **** out of me to be truthful. I taught a unit on this back before standards were changed. Here's the thing. In Africa when they have an outbreak villages are quarantined. No one in or out. Here we can't do that.
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Will the CDC Laboratory Science Policy and Practice Office be involved in the formulation of the new Protocols?

I wonder how 'Dog Girl" is doing....

CDC Official Accused of Child Molesting, Bestiality

An official from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was arrested for allegedly molesting a child and bestiality, according to police in DeKalb County, Ga.

Kimberly Lindsey, 44, a deputy director at CDC, is charged with child molestation and bestiality for two incidences involving a 6-year-old child. Lindsey's live-in boyfriend, Thomas Westerman, 42, is also being charged with child molestation.

The pair is accused of involving the child in their sex acts, including allowing the boy to spank Lindsey's nude buttocks and let him use an electric sex toy on her, according to warrants issued for their arrests.

Lindsey is also accused of performing sexual acts with two pets.

Police said they found evidence in the home during a search that led to the issuance of the warrants, though they would not comment on the nature of the alleged evidence.

The pair turned themselves in on Sunday after they learned warrants had been issued for their arrests, police told ABC affiliate WSBTV.

Officers said a medical professional treating the victim alerted police. The incidences are alleged to have occurred in January of 2010 and August of 2011.

Lindsey is a deputy director for the Laboratory Science Policy and Practice Program Office at the CDC, where she oversees $1.5 billion in funds that are disbursed across the agency for emergency response funding. She is listed as "Top Leadership" on the organization's website, which also says she has worked extensively with bioterrorism prevention, HIV/AIDs prevention, and labratory testing.

The website says she got her PHD from Emory and undergraduate degree from the University of Central Florida.

Neither Lindsey nor Westerman could immediately be reached Tuesday.

Lindsey was released on $20,000 bond and Westerman was released on $15,000 bond.

The CDC had no comment other than to say its policy is to let situations like this play out in the criminal justice system.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/cdc-official-ch...d=14713259
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(10-15-2014 09:43 AM)I45owl Wrote:  
(10-15-2014 09:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Insane that We are sending Our troops over there for airborne disease that no one has a way to stop while fighting is going on and folks dying by ISIS that can be stopped. We could be infecting thousands of families and friends when They return home if They hadn't already been brought down by the disease first.

eh, (1) ISIS is more likely to be airborne than Ebola, (2) we absolutely do know how to stop Ebola, and the track record is proven, but it takes time and resources to be dedicated to it, (3) we have no clue and no proven track on how to stop ISIS, (4) it would be foolish to bring troops home into the general population without having them spend a few weeks, say as guards in Guantanamo, but I don't doubt our capacity to do something foolish at this stage.

The comparison is a horrendously bad one, as I don't think you'd send the corps of engineers to Syria to deal with ISIS, nor would you send special forces and combat troops to deal with Ebola. But, I think you've managed to get every part of the comparison wrong.

Furthermore, if you wan't to keep your family safe from Ebola, worry more about what's going on in West Africa and worry less about how badly mismanaged the hospital in Dallas is. Even if this does extend to 5, 10 or 80 cases in Dallas it can be managed far more easily than what's happening in Africa now. I consider the spread of the disease in Africa to be a far greater risk than the hospital here, and I'm about 3-4 miles from Presbyterian hospital right now.

^^^this

the best way to go about this is to focus on containing it at the source. if we hinder the process in west africa at a cost of making us safer in the US, we will put both africa & the US at greater risk. The worse the situation in africa becomes, the more likely more it causes future cases in the US.

that's the position of the CDC and numerous health organizations and it really annoys me that some think message forum logic outweighs that.
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(10-15-2014 09:43 AM)I45owl Wrote:  Furthermore, if you wan't to keep your family safe from Ebola, worry more about what's going on in West Africa and worry less about how badly mismanaged the hospital in Dallas is. Even if this does extend to 5, 10 or 80 cases in Dallas it can be managed far more easily than what's happening in Africa now. I consider the spread of the disease in Africa to be a far greater risk than the hospital here, and I'm about 3-4 miles from Presbyterian hospital right now.

I agree w/ you that Africa is as the big concern, but that's b/c they won't institute travel bans.

That's really what this is about, why are there still no travel bans?
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(10-15-2014 10:19 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(10-15-2014 09:43 AM)I45owl Wrote:  
(10-15-2014 09:34 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Insane that We are sending Our troops over there for airborne disease that no one has a way to stop while fighting is going on and folks dying by ISIS that can be stopped. We could be infecting thousands of families and friends when They return home if They hadn't already been brought down by the disease first.

eh, (1) ISIS is more likely to be airborne than Ebola, (2) we absolutely do know how to stop Ebola, and the track record is proven, but it takes time and resources to be dedicated to it, (3) we have no clue and no proven track on how to stop ISIS, (4) it would be foolish to bring troops home into the general population without having them spend a few weeks, say as guards in Guantanamo, but I don't doubt our capacity to do something foolish at this stage.

The comparison is a horrendously bad one, as I don't think you'd send the corps of engineers to Syria to deal with ISIS, nor would you send special forces and combat troops to deal with Ebola. But, I think you've managed to get every part of the comparison wrong.

Furthermore, if you wan't to keep your family safe from Ebola, worry more about what's going on in West Africa and worry less about how badly mismanaged the hospital in Dallas is. Even if this does extend to 5, 10 or 80 cases in Dallas it can be managed far more easily than what's happening in Africa now. I consider the spread of the disease in Africa to be a far greater risk than the hospital here, and I'm about 3-4 miles from Presbyterian hospital right now.

^^^this

the best way to go about this is to focus on containing it at the source. if we hinder the process in west africa at a cost of making us safer in the US, we will put both africa & the US at greater risk. The worse the situation in africa becomes, the more likely more it causes future cases in the US.

that's the position of the CDC and numerous health organizations and it really annoys me that some think message forum logic outweighs that.

We're all experts. In EVERYTHING.
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(10-15-2014 10:28 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(10-15-2014 09:43 AM)I45owl Wrote:  Furthermore, if you wan't to keep your family safe from Ebola, worry more about what's going on in West Africa and worry less about how badly mismanaged the hospital in Dallas is. Even if this does extend to 5, 10 or 80 cases in Dallas it can be managed far more easily than what's happening in Africa now. I consider the spread of the disease in Africa to be a far greater risk than the hospital here, and I'm about 3-4 miles from Presbyterian hospital right now.

I agree w/ you that Africa is as the big concern, but that's b/c they won't institute travel bans.

That's really what this is about, why are there still no travel bans?

If you stop the spread of Ebola, travel bans won't matter. If you don't, travel bans won't help. It's as simple as that.

It's not about travel at all, it's about the spread of the disease. If the problem becomes too large inside of the affected countries, it's naive to think that any kind of travel ban would be effective enough to prevent the spread elsewhere.

If you are talking about truly embargo/siege type travel bans that would have to be imposed by external force, then you are consigning millions of people inside of those countries to die. A better approach would be to try to prevent those deaths and limit the number of people that you have to be concerned about travelling to begin with.

I think that travel bans can help to mitigate the threat of having the disease skip countries, but that's really solving a problem that is insignificant at this stage (with two people infected because of the lack of a complete ban, there have been insignificant consequences at this stage). But, I think the idea that a travel ban impedes the larger problem of limiting the outbreak that you do have is a real concern, and that really has to be the priority in the case where you do face a choice - ban travel or not.

Perhaps the best approach is to prepare an absolute ban and get buy-in from other countries, including Sierra Leone and Liberia, that if and when the problem reaches a certain threshhold, you institute the ban, but before then, no-one does in order to facilitate treatment of the current problem.
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(10-15-2014 10:38 AM)VA49er Wrote:  We're all experts. In EVERYTHING.

No. Only some of us are.
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(10-15-2014 10:57 AM)I45owl Wrote:  
(10-15-2014 10:38 AM)VA49er Wrote:  We're all experts. In EVERYTHING.

No. Only some of us are.

Parden me then seƱor expert.

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The second nurse testing positive was on a frontier flight from Cleveland to Dallas two days ago.

http://www.businessinsider.com/second-eb...rs-2014-10
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I wonder if Presbyterian organized a group visit to the Texas-OU game in appreciation of their efforts?
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