New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

(10-14-2014 10:27 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

They're under the same eligibility restrictions we are. If any of us three get a spot in a bowl, it's Georgia Southern at the moment.

(10-14-2014 10:27 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

Well, for what it's worth, they've also got the UNTs in the New Mexico Bowl.

We're not in the bowl projections... AGAIN.

:(

(10-14-2014 10:30 AM)GST-bone09 Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:27 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

They're under the same eligibility restrictions we are. If any of us three get a spot in a bowl, it's Georgia Southern at the moment.

Theres only one thing flawed with your logic...ULM and GS are in the same conference and will bowls aren't set up to play conference games.

I don't think any trans. team will get a bowl spot. There are usually enough bowl eligible teams with 2-4 setting at home.

OD might not even make a bowl

(10-14-2014 11:14 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:30 AM)GST-bone09 Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:27 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

They're under the same eligibility restrictions we are. If any of us three get a spot in a bowl, it's Georgia Southern at the moment.

Theres only one thing flawed with your logic...ULM and GS are in the same conference and will bowls aren't set up to play conference games.

I don't think any trans. team will get a bowl spot. There are usually enough bowl eligible teams with 2-4 setting at home.

Other than being a GS fan I don't hold any terribly strong position in the whole bowl for transition teams debate BUT unlike in previous years there are 39 bowls this year up four from 35 last year. As a result there will need to be need for 76 bowl eligible teams at 6-6 or better. (2 teams being subtracted for the semi-final champs going to the NC bowl.)

Last year, 2013, there were 79 bowl eligible teams so if the same number were to qualify this year then yes teams like GS and ODU would stay home. However, in both 2012 and 2011 only 72 teams were bowl eligible. If that were to happen this year then 4 additional teams would need to be found to make up the numbers. Transitional teams like GS and ODU are chosen before 5-7 teams per NCAA rule so it is probably safe to say that things haven't yet settled enough to determine if a 6+ win transitional team makes or misses a bowl.

Also worth mentioning, APR issues this year may make even fewer teams than usual available for bowls I believe.

2011: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2011.html
2012: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2012.html
2013: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2013.html

One problem we're faced with as a transitional team is that we played another transitional team. I think for us that doesn't count as an FBS win in terms of bowl eligibility. It does for full FBS members, but not for transitional teams. I could be wrong but I know there's something funny about the transitional stuff.

For us to qualify, assuming there's not enough eligible teams, I think we need at least 7 wins.

(10-14-2014 11:30 AM)fencereagle Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 11:14 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:30 AM)GST-bone09 Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:27 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

They're under the same eligibility restrictions we are. If any of us three get a spot in a bowl, it's Georgia Southern at the moment.

Theres only one thing flawed with your logic...ULM and GS are in the same conference and will bowls aren't set up to play conference games.

I don't think any trans. team will get a bowl spot. There are usually enough bowl eligible teams with 2-4 setting at home.

Other than being a GS fan I don't hold any terribly strong position in the whole bowl for transition teams debate BUT unlike in previous years there are 39 bowls this year up four from 35 last year. As a result there will need to be need for 76 bowl eligible teams at 6-6 or better. (2 teams being subtracted for the semi-final champs going to the NC bowl.)

Last year, 2013, there were 79 bowl eligible teams so if the same number were to qualify this year then yes teams like GS and ODU would stay home. However, in both 2012 and 2011 only 72 teams were bowl eligible. If that were to happen this year then 4 additional teams would need to be found to make up the numbers. Transitional teams like GS and ODU are chosen before 5-7 teams per NCAA rule so it is probably safe to say that things haven't yet settled enough to determine if a 6+ win transitional team makes or misses a bowl.

Also worth mentioning, APR issues this year may make even fewer teams than usual available for bowls I believe.

2011: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2011.html
2012: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2012.html
2013: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2013.html

However, since GaSo is still considered a transitional, a 6-6 team from the sunbelt would get a bid before an 8-4 GaSo team. Gotta fill up all spots first with bowl eligible teams before transitionals are considered. You can be optimistic, but dont hold your breath. Your best bet is for the teams that are supposed to win will win and the teams that are supposed to lose will lose. Its when you get those upsets, it helps that just below avg team get that 6th win to make them eligible and bump you out.

ULL has been in the NO Bowl three years in a row. I'd think they would want a change of scenery. Maybe let Arkansas State go to New Orleans, Lafayette to Mobile and South Alabama to Montgomery if these three were the top Belt teams at the end of the season

(10-14-2014 11:15 AM)bobcat09 Wrote:  OD might not even make a bowl

(10-14-2014 10:27 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

and UNI is not doing well

NIU lost to Central Michigan this week...at home. That's shocking.

I'd be okay with a Toledo matchup, but we play the Rockets the next two seasons home and home anyway, so I'm not sure a bowl would create that matchup.

Bowls doesn't care that we play Toledo next two years.

(10-14-2014 11:04 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  We're not in the bowl projections... AGAIN.

:(

Could change that tonight.

(10-14-2014 04:27 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 11:04 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  We're not in the bowl projections... AGAIN.

:(

Could change that tonight.

USA Today has Texas State in this week. I think most still expect them to lose tonight.

(10-14-2014 11:30 AM)fencereagle Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 11:14 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:30 AM)GST-bone09 Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:27 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(10-14-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  New Orleans Bowl Cajuns vs San Diego State
Camellia Bowl stAte vs Holy Toledo
Birmingham Bowl ULM vs Old Dominion
GoDaddy Bowl South Alabama vs N. Illinois

Old Dominion!?!? That's BS right there

They're under the same eligibility restrictions we are. If any of us three get a spot in a bowl, it's Georgia Southern at the moment.

Theres only one thing flawed with your logic...ULM and GS are in the same conference and will bowls aren't set up to play conference games.

I don't think any trans. team will get a bowl spot. There are usually enough bowl eligible teams with 2-4 setting at home.

Other than being a GS fan I don't hold any terribly strong position in the whole bowl for transition teams debate BUT unlike in previous years there are 39 bowls this year up four from 35 last year. As a result there will need to be need for 76 bowl eligible teams at 6-6 or better. (2 teams being subtracted for the semi-final champs going to the NC bowl.)

Last year, 2013, there were 79 bowl eligible teams so if the same number were to qualify this year then yes teams like GS and ODU would stay home. However, in both 2012 and 2011 only 72 teams were bowl eligible. If that were to happen this year then 4 additional teams would need to be found to make up the numbers. Transitional teams like GS and ODU are chosen before 5-7 teams per NCAA rule so it is probably safe to say that things haven't yet settled enough to determine if a 6+ win transitional team makes or misses a bowl.

Also worth mentioning, APR issues this year may make even fewer teams than usual available for bowls I believe.

2011: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2011.html
2012: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2012.html
2013: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_..._2013.html

Remains to be seen whether last year was an aberration or the new normal because there are more teams.

One thing that was huge last year was the number of 0 to 3 win teams.

NC State went 3-9. Lost to UNC by 8. UNC got eligible at 6-6
Western Michigan went 1-11 lost to Central Michigan by 5, CMU made it to 6-6
Kentucky 2-10 lost to Miss St by 6 Bulldogs eligible at 6-6
Arkansas 3-9 lost to Rutgers by 4 eligible at 6-6
Ga.St 0-12 lost to Troy by 7 Troy eligible at 6-6
Ga.St. 0-12 lost to Texas State by 7 Bobcats eligible at 6-6.

That's six teams eligible by beating a team with 3 or fewer wins in a one possession game.

Then when you look at teams who made it to 6 or more wins with multiple wins over teams with three or fewer wins (although not in as close games), the impact of a particularly large number of low win teams was big.

There were 28 teams with three or fewer wins last year. There were 24 in 2012 and 22 in 2011.

Only one team is ineligible due to APR - Idaho. UNLV was, but they won their appeal. Chances of either team making it 6 wins is slim, though.


Also - note that Buffalo will have to get to 7 wins to be eligible, since they have 2 FCS wins (at 3.4, they basically need to win out). However, a 6-6 Buffalo would be eligible if there are not enough teams qualified.

(10-14-2014 05:43 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Only one team is ineligible due to APR - Idaho. UNLV was, but they won their appeal. Chances of either team making it 6 wins is slim, though.


Also - note that Buffalo will have to get to 7 wins to be eligible, since they have 2 FCS wins (at 3.4, they basically need to win out). However, a 6-6 Buffalo would be eligible if there are not enough teams qualified.

Idaho would be out right now anyways because they didn't reschedule the Florida game. They are currently at 0-6 and if they were to win out, the best they could do is 5-6

A 6-6 Buffalo would still get in over Georgia Southern so I'm not even looking at that rule but I didn't realize that was the case with them.

One thing's for sure, if there are exactly 76 eligible teams for bowls and Penn State is one of them than I will be pissed.