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Playoff/Access Bowls week 7
We are getting closer to the committee rankings, in the meantime I'll use the AP Poll.

Rose: #2 FSU vs #3 Ole Miss.
Sugar: #1 Mississippi St vs #4 Baylor

Other bowls could be matched up differently by the committee but at least show the team that would be in the major bowls.

Orange: #24 Clemson vs #5 Notre Dame (ACC champ repl vs Highest SEC/B1G/ND)
Cotton: #8 MSU vs #6 Auburn (B1G champ vs. At Large#1)
Fiesta: #9 Oregon vs #7 Alabama (Pac 12 champs vs At Large #2)
Peach: #10 Georgia vs #18 ECU (At Large#3 vs G5).

G5 = Team with highest ranking (assuming they will be the conference champ) = #18 ECU.
[Marshall creeping closer to ECU @ #25 and Colorado St with 1 loss only getting some votes as the 3 G5 team]

Left out: #11 Oklahoma, #11 TCU

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/overview
Base of fulfillment of contracts first then highest teams available.

Clemson with the 2nd ACC team highest votes gets the OB spot for now.
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(10-12-2014 07:01 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  We are getting closer to the committee rankings, in the meantime I'll use the AP Poll.

Rose: #2 FSU vs #3 Ole Miss.
Sugar: #1 Mississippi St vs #4 Baylor

Other bowls could be matched up differently by the committee but at least show the team that would be in the major bowls.

Orange: #24 Clemson vs #5 Notre Dame (ACC champ repl vs Highest SEC/B1G/ND)
Cotton: #8 MSU vs #6 Auburn (B1G champ vs. At Large#1)
Fiesta: #9 Oregon vs #7 Alabama (Pac 12 champs vs At Large #2)
Peach: #10 Georgia vs #18 ECU (At Large#3 vs G5).

G5 = Team with highest ranking (assuming they will be the conference champ) = #18 ECU.
[Marshall creeping closer to ECU @ #25 and Colorado St with 1 loss only getting some votes as the 3 G5 team]

Left out: #11 Oklahoma, #11 TCU

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/overview
Base of fulfillment of contracts first then highest teams available.

Clemson with the 2nd ACC team highest votes gets the OB spot for now.

I feel bad for Georgia if this happened. Best season they have had in years and it looks like they will be playing ECU or Marshall.

I think ECU would make for a better game due to the number of tickets they would sell but I don't think either team would have much of a chance winning this game. If I was ECU or Marshall I would pay for a high scoring team with a average defense.
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I wouldn't go purely on the ranking -- but as an indicator.

ECU could be ranked #15 and Marshall #18 by the end of the year, but that wouldn't make the difference. Condi Rice makes the difference. :)
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(10-12-2014 07:20 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  I wouldn't go purely on the ranking -- but as an indicator.

ECU could be ranked #15 and Marshall #18 by the end of the year, but that wouldn't make the difference. Condi Rice makes the difference. :)

And then good Ole Oliver Luck gets who is the defacto leader gets his say 03-lmfao
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(10-12-2014 07:09 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 07:01 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  We are getting closer to the committee rankings, in the meantime I'll use the AP Poll.

Rose: #2 FSU vs #3 Ole Miss.
Sugar: #1 Mississippi St vs #4 Baylor

Other bowls could be matched up differently by the committee but at least show the team that would be in the major bowls.

Orange: #24 Clemson vs #5 Notre Dame (ACC champ repl vs Highest SEC/B1G/ND)
Cotton: #8 MSU vs #6 Auburn (B1G champ vs. At Large#1)
Fiesta: #9 Oregon vs #7 Alabama (Pac 12 champs vs At Large #2)
Peach: #10 Georgia vs #18 ECU (At Large#3 vs G5).

G5 = Team with highest ranking (assuming they will be the conference champ) = #18 ECU.
[Marshall creeping closer to ECU @ #25 and Colorado St with 1 loss only getting some votes as the 3 G5 team]

Left out: #11 Oklahoma, #11 TCU

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/overview
Base of fulfillment of contracts first then highest teams available.

Clemson with the 2nd ACC team highest votes gets the OB spot for now.

I feel bad for Georgia if this happened. Best season they have had in years and it looks like they will be playing ECU or Marshall.

I think ECU would make for a better game due to the number of tickets they would sell but I don't think either team would have much of a chance winning this game. If I was ECU or Marshall I would pay for a high scoring team with a average defense.

Interesting. 5 SEC, 2 ACC (including a dud), 1 each for Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12, independent and 1 AAC (probably a dud). Now their rankings may not match the polls and a lot will change between now and then. But its interesting where it is at this point.
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Does anyone honestly think a one loss ole miss makes it over an undefeated or one loss notre dame? Seriously?


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(10-12-2014 08:20 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  Does anyone honestly think a one loss ole miss makes it over an undefeated or one loss notre dame? Seriously?


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He's just using the polls at this point. They will change next week with the ND/FSU game.
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(10-12-2014 08:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:20 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  Does anyone honestly think a one loss ole miss makes it over an undefeated or one loss notre dame? Seriously?


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He's just using the polls at this point. They will change next week with the ND/FSU game.

Just goes to show that polls are useless until early to mid november.


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If it's a 1 loss SEC champ Ole Miss over a 1 loss ND- than yes I think everyone sees that. I really think the playoff is going to be a lot more about merit than it ever has before. Just because Notre Dame has a name- if they aren't good enough they are out.
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(10-12-2014 08:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If it's a 1 loss SEC champ Ole Miss over a 1 loss ND- than yes I think everyone sees that. I really think the playoff is going to be a lot more about merit than it ever has before. Just because Notre Dame has a name- if they aren't good enough they are out.

Strongly Disagree. Ratings will always be a factor whether we want it to be or not. A one loss sec champ alabama or auburn wouldn't get passed over for a one loss notre dame. A one loss sec champ ole miss or miss state might. It's all conjecture at this point anyway. As an acc guy, I kinda hope notre dame does get passed over a few times so they go all in.


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(10-12-2014 08:20 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  Does anyone honestly think a one loss ole miss makes it over an undefeated or one loss notre dame? Seriously?


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Possibly.

I have no doubt that Both of the Miss teams would blow Notre Dame out. But like someone else said he is just using the polls and Notre Dame plays FSU next.
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(10-12-2014 08:57 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If it's a 1 loss SEC champ Ole Miss over a 1 loss ND- than yes I think everyone sees that. I really think the playoff is going to be a lot more about merit than it ever has before. Just because Notre Dame has a name- if they aren't good enough they are out.

Strongly Disagree. Ratings will always be a factor whether we want it to be or not. A one loss sec champ alabama or auburn wouldn't get passed over for a one loss notre dame. A one loss sec champ ole miss or miss state might. It's all conjecture at this point anyway. As an acc guy, I kinda hope notre dame does get passed over a few times so they go all in.


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Any 1 loss SEC champ this year(esp west) will be the #1 seed- no matter who it is. The SEC is more of a brand right now than Notre Dame- and it's not even close.
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(10-12-2014 09:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:57 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If it's a 1 loss SEC champ Ole Miss over a 1 loss ND- than yes I think everyone sees that. I really think the playoff is going to be a lot more about merit than it ever has before. Just because Notre Dame has a name- if they aren't good enough they are out.

Strongly Disagree. Ratings will always be a factor whether we want it to be or not. A one loss sec champ alabama or auburn wouldn't get passed over for a one loss notre dame. A one loss sec champ ole miss or miss state might. It's all conjecture at this point anyway. As an acc guy, I kinda hope notre dame does get passed over a few times so they go all in.


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Any 1 loss SEC champ this year(esp west) will be the #1 seed- no matter who it is. The SEC is more of a brand right now than Notre Dame- and it's not even close.

Not if the other 3 teams in the playof are unbeaten. Then it's down to one loss ole miss or one loss notre dame. Sorry, rebels, you'll be left out. But enjoy the unicorns and fairies frolicking around your world 03-wink


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(10-12-2014 09:36 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 09:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:57 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If it's a 1 loss SEC champ Ole Miss over a 1 loss ND- than yes I think everyone sees that. I really think the playoff is going to be a lot more about merit than it ever has before. Just because Notre Dame has a name- if they aren't good enough they are out.

Strongly Disagree. Ratings will always be a factor whether we want it to be or not. A one loss sec champ alabama or auburn wouldn't get passed over for a one loss notre dame. A one loss sec champ ole miss or miss state might. It's all conjecture at this point anyway. As an acc guy, I kinda hope notre dame does get passed over a few times so they go all in.


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Any 1 loss SEC champ this year(esp west) will be the #1 seed- no matter who it is. The SEC is more of a brand right now than Notre Dame- and it's not even close.

Not if the other 3 teams in the playof are unbeaten. Then it's down to one loss ole miss or one loss notre dame. Sorry, rebels, you'll be left out. But enjoy the unicorns and fairies frolicking around your world 03-wink


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Sorry you are delusional. For one- if SEC champ isn't undefeated- there would be at most 2 undefeated teams. FSU/ND and Baylor. That's it. You may be butthurt about the SEC- but you just are not realistic. And yes- if FSU/ND winner loses a game- I could easily see a 1 loss SEC champ at #1 seed over Baylor.

They've already said that ratings won't impact the selections. The Michigan St coach tried to play that card- and he was pretty much rejected so fast it made his head spin. It's going to be about selecting the 4 best teams- not the 4 best tv teams. Similarly to the access bowls. They are now actually going to be merit based- not some give me to the Big Ten teams like Michigan a few years ago.
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(10-12-2014 09:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 09:36 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 09:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:57 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If it's a 1 loss SEC champ Ole Miss over a 1 loss ND- than yes I think everyone sees that. I really think the playoff is going to be a lot more about merit than it ever has before. Just because Notre Dame has a name- if they aren't good enough they are out.

Strongly Disagree. Ratings will always be a factor whether we want it to be or not. A one loss sec champ alabama or auburn wouldn't get passed over for a one loss notre dame. A one loss sec champ ole miss or miss state might. It's all conjecture at this point anyway. As an acc guy, I kinda hope notre dame does get passed over a few times so they go all in.


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Any 1 loss SEC champ this year(esp west) will be the #1 seed- no matter who it is. The SEC is more of a brand right now than Notre Dame- and it's not even close.

Not if the other 3 teams in the playof are unbeaten. Then it's down to one loss ole miss or one loss notre dame. Sorry, rebels, you'll be left out. But enjoy the unicorns and fairies frolicking around your world 03-wink


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Sorry you are delusional. For one- if SEC champ isn't undefeated- there would be at most 2 undefeated teams. FSU/ND and Baylor. That's it. You may be butthurt about the SEC- but you just are not realistic. And yes- if FSU/ND winner loses a game- I could easily see a 1 loss SEC champ at #1 seed over Baylor.

They've already said that ratings won't impact the selections. The Michigan St coach tried to play that card- and he was pretty much rejected so fast it made his head spin. It's going to be about selecting the 4 best teams- not the 4 best tv teams. Similarly to the access bowls. They are now actually going to be merit based- not some give me to the Big Ten teams like Michigan a few years ago.

Could not agree more. There are five SEC teams currently in the top ten and the best team in the country is an SEC team.

Misinformed fans will want to call this southern bias but if you simply look at the recruiting rankings for the past five years and the level of coaches around the SEC it seems like the SEC as a whole is in another division.

You have to be blind to even think Notre Dame would even stand much of a chance against the 5th best SEC team this year. Even without Gurley Georgia would probably man handle Notre Dame.
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The nightmare scenario for everyone but the SEC would be Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Alabama or Auburn to all finish 7-1 in conference play, 11-1 overall, and whoever "wins" the tiebreaker beats a ranked 1-loss Georgia in the SEC Championship game.

We lose Florida State or Notre Dame as an undefeated this weekend, so there won't be many undefeated schools to bump them - perhaps only Baylor and the FSU/Notre Dame winner.
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(10-12-2014 09:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:57 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If it's a 1 loss SEC champ Ole Miss over a 1 loss ND- than yes I think everyone sees that. I really think the playoff is going to be a lot more about merit than it ever has before. Just because Notre Dame has a name- if they aren't good enough they are out.

Strongly Disagree. Ratings will always be a factor whether we want it to be or not. A one loss sec champ alabama or auburn wouldn't get passed over for a one loss notre dame. A one loss sec champ ole miss or miss state might. It's all conjecture at this point anyway. As an acc guy, I kinda hope notre dame does get passed over a few times so they go all in.


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Any 1 loss SEC champ this year(esp west) will be the #1 seed- no matter who it is. The SEC is more of a brand right now than Notre Dame- and it's not even close.


An entire 14 school conference is more of a "brand" than a single, solitary school?

No!!!
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(10-13-2014 08:54 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 09:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 09:36 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 09:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 08:57 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  Strongly Disagree. Ratings will always be a factor whether we want it to be or not. A one loss sec champ alabama or auburn wouldn't get passed over for a one loss notre dame. A one loss sec champ ole miss or miss state might. It's all conjecture at this point anyway. As an acc guy, I kinda hope notre dame does get passed over a few times so they go all in.


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Any 1 loss SEC champ this year(esp west) will be the #1 seed- no matter who it is. The SEC is more of a brand right now than Notre Dame- and it's not even close.

Not if the other 3 teams in the playof are unbeaten. Then it's down to one loss ole miss or one loss notre dame. Sorry, rebels, you'll be left out. But enjoy the unicorns and fairies frolicking around your world 03-wink


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Sorry you are delusional. For one- if SEC champ isn't undefeated- there would be at most 2 undefeated teams. FSU/ND and Baylor. That's it. You may be butthurt about the SEC- but you just are not realistic. And yes- if FSU/ND winner loses a game- I could easily see a 1 loss SEC champ at #1 seed over Baylor.

They've already said that ratings won't impact the selections. The Michigan St coach tried to play that card- and he was pretty much rejected so fast it made his head spin. It's going to be about selecting the 4 best teams- not the 4 best tv teams. Similarly to the access bowls. They are now actually going to be merit based- not some give me to the Big Ten teams like Michigan a few years ago.

Could not agree more. There are five SEC teams currently in the top ten and the best team in the country is an SEC team.

Misinformed fans will want to call this southern bias but if you simply look at the recruiting rankings for the past five years and the level of coaches around the SEC it seems like the SEC as a whole is in another division.

You have to be blind to even think Notre Dame would even stand much of a chance against the 5th best SEC team this year. Even without Gurley Georgia would probably man handle Notre Dame.


That is your opinion, which you are entitled to have.

I have a different opinion, which I am entitled to have.
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We're a long way from the end of the season and there have already been a lot of upsets. It's not realistic to predict that this season will end with two undefeated P5 teams plus half a dozen one-loss P5 teams, so it's not worth losing any sleep worrying about that scenario.
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i think pretty much any scenario is going to yield the same outcome: a bunch of folks calling for the playoff to be expanded from 4 to 8 teams, sooner rather than later.
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