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Anyone Else Happy?
The whole NIU holier than thou attitude can finally stop?

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10-11-2014 06:43 PM
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Hells yes! 02-13-banana COGS 04-rock Toledo may still be in the driver's seat, but we're still in the race.
10-11-2014 07:13 PM
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(10-11-2014 06:43 PM)george14 Wrote:  The whole NIU holier than thou attitude can finally stop?

Fire Up Chips!

Indeed.
10-11-2014 07:14 PM
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(10-11-2014 07:14 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 06:43 PM)george14 Wrote:  The whole NIU holier than thou attitude can finally stop?

Fire Up Chips!

Indeed.

Congrats to EMU today as well. I confess, I didn't see that coming. Good day for the Michigan MAC. 04-cheers
10-11-2014 07:20 PM
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If anyone needs to get off their high horse on that board, it's G-string...05-mafia
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As a Zips fan, I'm happy. But it has nothing at all to do with NIU.
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I think after the Kent St game, almost all NIU fans who had a holier than thou attitude toned it down many notches. Many were scared walking into it and feared a loss.
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(10-11-2014 07:13 PM)CMichFan Wrote:  Hells yes! 02-13-banana COGS 04-rock Toledo may still be in the driver's seat, but we're still in the race.
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This is the best I could do for a response. I don't think the policeman emoticon is available anymore. 05-stirthepot
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Not really....the MAC needs at least one nationally recognized "brand", and it's been NIU for the our conference. Just because one or two posters of their entire fan base is cocky doesn't mean I root against the Huskies. I want to see a MAC team emerge each year and get ranked and even aspire the big time (BCS game in the past), just like NIU.
10-12-2014 12:06 AM
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(10-12-2014 12:06 AM)exCincy Kid1 Wrote:  Not really....the MAC needs at least one nationally recognized "brand", and it's been NIU for the our conference. Just because one or two posters of their entire fan base is cocky doesn't mean I root against the Huskies. I want to see a MAC team emerge each year and get ranked and even aspire the big time (BCS game in the past), just like NIU.

We won't have the one top 25 or top 40 team this year but we have some interesting teams with marque players.

Western has the MAC FOY and, I'd guess, one of the best RBs, Franklin, in the country (leads with 15 TDs), an excellent WR, Corey Davis and an improving QB, Terrell.

Central has a very, very good RB, Rawls, a very good WR, Titus Davis, etc.

Everyone like to watch a Kahlil Mack, but quite frankly casual television fans would prefer say Franklin and Davis or Rawls and Davis as offensive skill players dominate a game more then a defensive player (who can be double or triple teamed). Also, Akron is a good football team but doesn't have the offensive impact players that WMU and CMU does.

I would think WMU and CMU would be exciting bowl teams.
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Quote:We won't have the one top 25 or top 40 team this year but we have some interesting teams with marque players.

The problem is, CMU probably won't go on a win streak. @Toledo, they were kept at arms-length pretty much the whole game. They rely SO much on Rawls (and Davis). They convincingly lost to Kansas, and got Stomped by Syracuse at home -- not in Bball -- but football -- without Rawls & Davis. Relying so much on that, you'll lose games you shouldn't lose, but win some games others didn't expect.

With WMU, they're "learning". During the Toledo game, Franklin was dinged up for a good while, but we still fought through for a barn-burner -- even though against Toledo's strong Run D we had nobody else to compete with well. However, WMU is wonky. See 1st half @BSU vs 2nd half @BSU.

Miami-OH is climbing up, UMass obviously is a real team now (albeit finding a way to lose in almost every game), and EMU is showing signs of life taking out Buffalo who's the hallmark of the "mediocre" line most years in the MAC.

I would rather see NIU go undefeated in the MAC and go 12-1 into bowls, possibly grabbing the BCS Bowl if Marshall & ECU slip up (which very well could happen). Or, at the end of conference season, be ranked. NIU seemed to be humming, but they went BACKWARDS. They struggled to beat Kent. KENT! UMass stomped them. Hence, CMU beating NIU wasn't that shocking. Before the game, if someone said "It'll be the same NIU team that played against Kent", if the answer is "Yes" that Rawls & Davis were to play for CMU -- the final answer would be "CMU will beat NIU, unless CMU totally shoots themselves in the foot."

And Toledo. Sheesh. Missouri is a skitzo team themselves, but Toledo solidly fell short at home against them. And they lost to Iowa State, as ISU solidly held them back in the 2nd half. Sure, ISU has a nice D, but they have no O. Toledo was not impressive there. Well, it would have been semi-impressive as, say, a 5-3/7-5 MAC team. But not representing a Top-Mac-West team.

BGSU? Talk about NO D. Sure, Ohio has a good D, and they kept them down -- but Ohio's team gives up points because their D is on the field so long, since their O sucks. BGSU is the opposite -- their great O can make their D look decent against a team that can't score points when BGSU hogs the time on the field.

So in the end, what do we have? A brutal anyone-can-beat-anyone conference (minus Kent State, and kinda-minus EMU for better teams @home).

I wouldn't dislike the "anyone can beat anyone" nature of the conference IF:
- Toledo showed up in 1st half against Cinci to beat them
- Toledo had a better game against Missouri at home, and held on to beat Iowa State
- NIU didn't get pasted by Arkansas
- CMU beat Kansas and at least went down to the wire against Syracuse
- BSU didn't lose to Indiana State (FCS)
- BSU held on to beat Iowa instead of handing them the game late
- Bowling Green had a Close game against Wisconsin
- Bowling Green beat W. Kentucky
- Akron didn't get stomped by Marshall, but made it a close game

Then, our conference would look good -- so we'd be allowed to punch each other in the face randomly. :)
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(10-12-2014 12:55 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:We won't have the one top 25 or top 40 team this year but we have some interesting teams with marque players.

The problem is, CMU probably won't go on a win streak. @Toledo, they were kept at arms-length pretty much the whole game. They rely SO much on Rawls (and Davis). They convincingly lost to Kansas, and got Stomped by Syracuse at home -- not in Bball -- but football -- without Rawls & Davis. Relying so much on that, you'll lose games you shouldn't lose, but win some games others didn't expect.

With WMU, they're "learning". During the Toledo game, Franklin was dinged up for a good while, but we still fought through for a barn-burner -- even though against Toledo's strong Run D we had nobody else to compete with well. However, WMU is wonky. See 1st half @BSU vs 2nd half @BSU.

Miami-OH is climbing up, UMass obviously is a real team now (albeit finding a way to lose in almost every game), and EMU is showing signs of life taking out Buffalo who's the hallmark of the "mediocre" line most years in the MAC.

I would rather see NIU go undefeated in the MAC and go 12-1 into bowls, possibly grabbing the BCS Bowl if Marshall & ECU slip up (which very well could happen). Or, at the end of conference season, be ranked. NIU seemed to be humming, but they went BACKWARDS. They struggled to beat Kent. KENT! UMass stomped them. Hence, CMU beating NIU wasn't that shocking. Before the game, if someone said "It'll be the same NIU team that played against Kent", if the answer is "Yes" that Rawls & Davis were to play for CMU -- the final answer would be "CMU will beat NIU, unless CMU totally shoots themselves in the foot."

And Toledo. Sheesh. Missouri is a skitzo team themselves, but Toledo solidly fell short at home against them. And they lost to Iowa State, as ISU solidly held them back in the 2nd half. Sure, ISU has a nice D, but they have no O. Toledo was not impressive there. Well, it would have been semi-impressive as, say, a 5-3/7-5 MAC team. But not representing a Top-Mac-West team.

BGSU? Talk about NO D. Sure, Ohio has a good D, and they kept them down -- but Ohio's team gives up points because their D is on the field so long, since their O sucks. BGSU is the opposite -- their great O can make their D look decent against a team that can't score points when BGSU hogs the time on the field.

So in the end, what do we have? A brutal anyone-can-beat-anyone conference (minus Kent State, and kinda-minus EMU for better teams @home).

I wouldn't dislike the "anyone can beat anyone" nature of the conference IF:
- Toledo showed up in 1st half against Cinci to beat them
- Toledo had a better game against Missouri at home, and held on to beat Iowa State
- NIU didn't get pasted by Arkansas
- CMU beat Kansas and at least went down to the wire against Syracuse
- BSU didn't lose to Indiana State (FCS)
- BSU held on to beat Iowa instead of handing them the game late
- Bowling Green had a Close game against Wisconsin
- Bowling Green beat W. Kentucky
- Akron didn't get stomped by Marshall, but made it a close game

Then, our conference would look good -- so we'd be allowed to punch each other in the face randomly. :)

That is a very good post.
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Not really happy but not upset either.

I like NIU. Most of their fans are pretty reasonable and I actually felt that outside of G-String, they were pretty level-headed considering the success they were having. If there's a team in the MAC not named Toledo or Miami that I'd like to see do well, it's NIU.

But yeah...for G-String's sake I can find some happiness there in that one little spot in the corner.
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Quote:I like NIU. Most of their fans are pretty reasonable and I actually felt that outside of G-String, they were pretty level-headed considering the success they were having.

Yeah, they are. Comparatively speaking, they know what's up. When you're a big G5 in a big moment of transition, you're worried more than a big P5 who is, of course. Especially when you're not dominating attendance and 20k is Big.

With NIU's OOC performance, I would have rather seen NIU not trip over itself (against BOTH Kent in their W, and getting dominated against CMU at home) -- and go 12-1, ranked #18-#20 -- than see us all amplify our weaknesses, have random wins & losses, and it being a wacky-West by a coin-flip.

Next year though, IMO, will be a strong MAC conference. I guess if the conference is going to have a random pillow fight -- mine as well bring hot senior girls in lingerie into it, right? :)
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I've been to most every MAC stadium to see my RedHawks, and I'd put the folks at NIU right up there as most hospitable.......very friendly place to go even as a visitor.
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(10-11-2014 06:43 PM)george14 Wrote:  The whole NIU holier than thou attitude can finally stop?

Fire Up Chips!

Look what you've done! I'm melting! Melting!
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(10-11-2014 06:43 PM)george14 Wrote:  The whole NIU holier than thou attitude can finally stop?

Yes.
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Pretty sure a mass suicide of Dog Pound members will be happening and it's all your fault CMU. Gotta live with that for the rest of your lives now
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(10-13-2014 10:19 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  Pretty sure a mass suicide of Dog Pound members will be happening and it's all your fault CMU. Gotta live with that for the rest of your lives now

Yep, you took an already half-insane fanbase and sent them over the edge.
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(10-13-2014 10:28 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Yep, you took an already half-insane fanbase and sent them over the edge.

100% of the 50% of our half insane fanbase became fans after 2003. This actually explains a lot.
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