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Chron article - Berkman back in class
Good article. Love that Lance is finishing good degree - and if course the idea of him being on our staff.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/r...ed8c769e06

Such a good guy.

But I think he's pulling our leg a little bit with his "old school, no email" comments. If I remember correctly, he matriculated in 94. I matriculated in 95 and didn't know anyone, in any class, who didn't use email. Of course it was brand new to nearly all of us.
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(10-11-2014 11:35 AM)JOwl Wrote:  ... he matriculated in 94. I matriculated in 95 and didn't know anyone, in any class, who didn't use email. Of course it was brand new to nearly all of us.

Is there any truth to the story that he threw a flaming couch off of Sid?
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(10-11-2014 07:47 PM)TarOwl Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 11:35 AM)JOwl Wrote:  ... he matriculated in 94. I matriculated in 95 and didn't know anyone, in any class, who didn't use email. Of course it was brand new to nearly all of us.

Is there any truth to the story that he threw a flaming couch off of Sid?

It was Matt Anderson, and it wasn't on fire. Can't find the Thresher interview with him about it right now.
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(10-11-2014 08:06 PM)baker-13 Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 07:47 PM)TarOwl Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 11:35 AM)JOwl Wrote:  ... he matriculated in 94. I matriculated in 95 and didn't know anyone, in any class, who didn't use email. Of course it was brand new to nearly all of us.

Is there any truth to the story that he threw a flaming couch off of Sid?

It was Matt Anderson, and it wasn't on fire. Can't find the Thresher interview with him about it right now.

When I heard about the incident, I asked the resident former Rice football letter winner, current attorney, and then proud father of a Rice baseball player what he thought about the entire event. He asked me, "Was there anyone on the couch when it left Sid's roof?" I replied that there wasn't. He asked me, "Was there anyone under the couch when it landed on the ground?" I replied that there wasn't. He thought for a minute and said, "Then I don't see what the big deal is..."
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RE: Chron article - Berkman back in class
Matt was rusticated for the couch incident. My memory tells me that he, like Lance, matriculated in '94. He was freshman year suitemate with my future suitemates at Lovett (circa '97).

At the time, from the stories I heard from them and everyone else, I thought him a total dbag who I was glad was restricted from campus. With nearly 20 years of perspective, I now think of him as having been a kid who made some bad choices and was dealing with some big issues.

But enough about Matt. How friggin' awesome is Lance?
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RE: Chron article - Berkman back in class
I think that sounds about right. I sort of remember having to have an AOL account to have email in the early 1990's. I probably migrated over to Eudora after that but you had to know a bit about how to set up the POP account. It wasn't until later in the 90's I believe that email accounts through online sites were a little more user-friendly (like gmail and hotmail).

I do know Lance would use a phone in the back of Autry to call his dad after every game (which I never understood because I thought that was just a campus phone that couldn't make long-distance calls). I doubt he would have been calling if he could have sent him email updates instead.
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(10-11-2014 08:52 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I do know Lance would use a phone in the back of Autry to call his dad after every game (which I never understood because I thought that was just a campus phone that couldn't make long-distance calls). I doubt he would have been calling if he could have sent him email updates instead.

Of course, that could be because his father didn't have email.
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(10-11-2014 08:52 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I do know Lance would use a phone in the back of Autry to call his dad after every game (which I never understood because I thought that was just a campus phone that couldn't make long-distance calls).

The public campus phones let you dial 800 numbers, just not toll numbers, so they were often used for calling-card calls.
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(10-11-2014 11:35 AM)JOwl Wrote:  But I think he's pulling our leg a little bit with his "old school, no email" comments. If I remember correctly, he matriculated in 94. I matriculated in 95 and didn't know anyone, in any class, who didn't use email. Of course it was brand new to nearly all of us.

Until either 93-94 or 94-95 school year, you had to show cause why you needed an email address (e.g. a class that required it or the like) in order to get one. As I understand, it wasn't hard, but I never qualified. I graduated in December 1995 never having used an email for class in any way shape or form. Further, if you lived off-campus, you were limited to dialing in on telnet, which was a colossal pain in the ass and decreased your likelihood of utilizing Rice computer facilities if you weren't working in a computer lab.

Lance was drafted in 1997, so I don't view it as unreasonable that he didn't use email for class.
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(10-13-2014 10:40 AM)texd Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 11:35 AM)JOwl Wrote:  But I think he's pulling our leg a little bit with his "old school, no email" comments. If I remember correctly, he matriculated in 94. I matriculated in 95 and didn't know anyone, in any class, who didn't use email. Of course it was brand new to nearly all of us.

Until either 93-94 or 94-95 school year, you had to show cause why you needed an email address (e.g. a class that required it or the like) in order to get one. As I understand, it wasn't hard, but I never qualified. I graduated in December 1995 never having used an email for class in any way shape or form. Further, if you lived off-campus, you were limited to dialing in on telnet, which was a colossal pain in the ass and decreased your likelihood of utilizing Rice computer facilities if you weren't working in a computer lab.

Lance was drafted in 1997, so I don't view it as unreasonable that he didn't use email for class.

I also matriculated in '95, and IIRC, we all got Owlnet addresses during O-Week. Of course, it was new enough that I was able to get 'doug' as my address/login. 03-wink
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RE: Chron article - Berkman back in class
As I told someone the other day, I've been on the internet since men were men and women were usually also men sitting at home in their underwear.

I had one of the early three initial @rice.edu email addresses from the 1980s (I think it's still possible to reach me on it, as it transitioned into the @alumni.rice.edu address). I was in grad school circa 1993-1994 and assumed it was still limited to mainly SEs, so I'd have bought his line, even if it turns out to be exaggerated.
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(10-13-2014 10:40 AM)texd Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 11:35 AM)JOwl Wrote:  But I think he's pulling our leg a little bit with his "old school, no email" comments. If I remember correctly, he matriculated in 94. I matriculated in 95 and didn't know anyone, in any class, who didn't use email. Of course it was brand new to nearly all of us.

Until either 93-94 or 94-95 school year, you had to show cause why you needed an email address (e.g. a class that required it or the like) in order to get one. As I understand, it wasn't hard, but I never qualified. I graduated in December 1995 never having used an email for class in any way shape or form. Further, if you lived off-campus, you were limited to dialing in on telnet, which was a colossal pain in the ass and decreased your likelihood of utilizing Rice computer facilities if you weren't working in a computer lab.

Lance was drafted in 1997, so I don't view it as unreasonable that he didn't use email for class.

It was Lance's telling of the story I was poking at -- it's certainly possible he didn't have or ever use an owlnet account. But the story was:
Quote:When he was at Rice in the mid-1990s, he tells them, "We didn't even have email". "If you had a Rice email account, you were considered on the very, very leading edge of technology," Berkman said. "I never had one, obviously."

I had the same experience as Noodle. My freshman year (Lance's sophomore year), every O-Week group spent a few minutes down in the basement computer lab signing up for our Owlnet accounts.

And of course, we had no idea how big a deal email would be at the time. I remember there were two Lovett guys a year or two ahead of me who were "sperman@owlnet.rice.edu" and "anus@". And one girl my year went with "easyd@". sperman ended up petitioning to get his email changed later on (because he didn't want to put that with his contact info on his resume?). I think easyd did the same thing. I forget, but anus might have just rolled with it.
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