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Updated FBS Conference Rankings October 10th
CUSA holds a slight edge over all G5's (Teamrankings.com) while the Massey Rankings have us slightly below the MWC.

TeamRankings.com Rankings

1. SEC
2. Big 12
3. Pac 12
4. ACC
5. Big Ten
6. Independents
7. CUSA
8. MWC
9. American
10. MAC
11. Sunbelt


Massey Rankings

1. SEC
2. PAC 12
3. Big 12
4. Big 10
5. ACC
6. Independents
7. MWC
8. CUSA
9. American
10. Mac
11. Sunbelt



Rice plays Army tomorrow. Need that win to continue our string against other G-5 schools. Here is a run down of each conference record against fellow G5:

1. CUSA...15-3
2. Independents....6-3
3. MWC....7-5
4. American...4-9
5. MAC....3-10
6. Sunbelt...3-10
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RE: Updated FBS Conference Rankings October 10th
Cue the ECU fan saying these rankings don't matter in 3....2.....1.....
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(10-10-2014 09:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Cue the ECU fan saying these rankings don't matter in 3....2.....1.....


Nahhh. I don't think so. According to them, they are in a far superior conference than CUSA is.... 07-coffee3
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RE: Updated FBS Conference Rankings October 10th
No they certainly matter, which means ECU should coast the rest of the season playing nothing but AAC scrubs, while Marshall almost assuredly should lose playing the far superior conference schedule. 05-stirthepot
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RE: Updated FBS Conference Rankings October 10th
(10-11-2014 08:48 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  AAC scrubs

Amen to that.
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(10-11-2014 08:48 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  No they certainly matter, which means ECU should coast the rest of the season playing nothing but AAC scrubs, while Marshall almost assuredly should lose playing the far superior conference schedule. 05-stirthepot

given your sarcasm, how does the AAC explain a 4-9 record against peer G5 schools?
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RE: Updated FBS Conference Rankings October 10th
Real Time RPI:
1 Southeastern 14 51-22 (70%) 33-4 (89%) 33.70 57.04 1
2 Big 12 10 31-18 (63%) 21-8 (72%) 30.71 55.44 2
3 Pacific-12 12 44-20 (69%) 29-5 (85%) 29.72 54.26 4
4 Atlantic Coast 14 49-28 (64%) 34-13 (72%) 28.19 55.34 3
5 Independents 4 13-9 (59%) 13-9 (59%) 27.83 52.50 6
6 Big Ten 14 50-25 (67%) 39-14 (74%) 27.71 54.25 5
7 American Athletic 11 22-31 (42%) 17-26 (40%) 20.81 52.37 7
8 Mountain West 12 34-33 (51%) 23-22 (51%) 20.23 50.52 8
9 Conference USA 13 33-36 (48%) 23-26 (47%) 19.93 49.99 11
10 Mid-American 13 29-43 (40%) 20-34 (37%) 18.80 50.09 9


Sagarin:
1 SEC-WEST (A) = 89.82 89.69 ( 1) 7 89.71 ( 1)
2 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 80.05 78.99 ( 2) 6 79.65 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 79.39 78.67 ( 3) 10 79.16 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 79.20 78.05 ( 4) 7 78.79 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 77.26 77.91 ( 5) 6 77.70 ( 5)
6 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 75.26 75.65 ( 6) 7 75.46 ( 6)
7 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 74.82 74.72 ( 7) 7 74.87 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.18 73.87 ( 8) 7 73.91 ( 8)
9 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.90 73.29 ( 9) 7 73.58 ( 9)
10 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 72.18 72.35 ( 10) 4 72.23 ( 10)
11 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 66.12 65.76 ( 11) 6 65.84 ( 11)
12 AMERICAN ATHLETIC (A) = 63.96 63.95 ( 12) 11 63.98 ( 12)
13 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 63.06 62.71 ( 13) 10 62.86 ( 13)
14 MWC-WEST (A) = 62.11 61.53 ( 15) 6 61.86 ( 14)
15 CONFERENCE USA-WEST (A) = 61.63 61.53 ( 16) 6 61.52 ( 16)
16 CONFERENCE USA-EAST (A) = 61.44 62.02 ( 14) 7 61.71 ( 15)
17 MAC-WEST (A) = 60.56 59.76 ( 17) 6 60.33 ( 17)
18 MAC-EAST (A) = 55.25 55.72 ( 18) 7 55.59 ( 18)
19 SUN BELT (A) = 54.94 55.66 ( 19) 11 55.38 ( 19)

There are tons more of these out there….Just shows they are all pretty useless as they prove nothing tangible, just all depends on what metrics they use to to come up with a number for each team. None of them are right or wrong.
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(10-11-2014 08:54 AM)AnimeBlazer Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 08:48 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  AAC scrubs

Amen to that.

Gotta give bonds some credit...at least he's being honest with his aac scrubs analogy... 04-bow
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(10-11-2014 09:05 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 08:48 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  No they certainly matter, which means ECU should coast the rest of the season playing nothing but AAC scrubs, while Marshall almost assuredly should lose playing the far superior conference schedule. 05-stirthepot

given your sarcasm, how does the AAC explain a 4-9 record against peer G5 schools?

I don't need to defend anyone else, I only care about ECU. I just find it funny that Marshall fans specifically on the one hand want to try to say how much better C-USA is than the AAC but then on the other all believe they are going to cake walk through C-USA while ECU is assuredly going to lose at least 1 game against the inferior schedule.
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(10-11-2014 09:12 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I don't need to defend anyone else, I only care about ECU. I just find it funny that Marshall fans specifically on the one hand want to try to say how much better C-USA is than the AAC but then on the other all believe they are going to cake walk through C-USA while ECU is assuredly going to lose at least 1 game against the inferior schedule.

Cake walk through C-USA are your words (and you keep repeating them), no one here has said that, in fact what we've said is how difficult it is for anyone to run the table, anywhere.
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RE: Updated FBS Conference Rankings October 10th
(10-11-2014 09:05 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 08:48 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  No they certainly matter, which means ECU should coast the rest of the season playing nothing but AAC scrubs, while Marshall almost assuredly should lose playing the far superior conference schedule. 05-stirthepot

given your sarcasm, how does the AAC explain a 4-9 record against peer G5 schools?

Same way you guys explain being 0fer against P5 opponents!!!! And losing 2 against FCS schools. We are 4-6 against G5 opponents.3 of those losses were from one team and probably the worst team in our league. Your number is trying to count the Independents which for the most part were 2 losses to a pretty good BYU team before they lost their starting QB. It is all about how you try to spin the numbers. I think CUSA and the AAC are pretty close, I think our bad teams are really bad but I think our Top 3rd is better.
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(10-11-2014 09:17 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Same way you guys explain being 0fer against P5 opponents!!!! And losing 2 against FCS schools. We are 4-6 against G5 opponents.3 of those losses were from one team and probably the worst team in out league. Your number is trying to count the Independents which for the most part were 2 losses to a pretty good BYU team before they lost their starting QB.

still hungover from last night? I'm having trouble follwing your line of reasoning here (and don't want to dig up the AAC's team by team record to try to figure out what you're trying to say). Sounds like you don't want to count 3 of your G-5 losses; sorry but it don't work like that.

You have 3 wins against the P5, two by ECU and a close loss to USC, However, UTSA had just as close a loss to unbeaten Arizona, so that's a wash. And middle of the pack Houston was waxed by UTSA so we can play the transitive game all day. What can't be argued is our records v. similar opponents.
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(10-11-2014 09:16 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 09:12 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I don't need to defend anyone else, I only care about ECU. I just find it funny that Marshall fans specifically on the one hand want to try to say how much better C-USA is than the AAC but then on the other all believe they are going to cake walk through C-USA while ECU is assuredly going to lose at least 1 game against the inferior schedule.

Cake walk through C-USA are your words (and you keep repeating them), no one here has said that, in fact what we've said is how difficult it is for anyone to run the table, anywhere.

Have you been reading the posts of Marshall fans around here?
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(10-11-2014 09:06 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Real Time RPI:
1 Southeastern 14 51-22 (70%) 33-4 (89%) 33.70 57.04 1
2 Big 12 10 31-18 (63%) 21-8 (72%) 30.71 55.44 2
3 Pacific-12 12 44-20 (69%) 29-5 (85%) 29.72 54.26 4
4 Atlantic Coast 14 49-28 (64%) 34-13 (72%) 28.19 55.34 3
5 Independents 4 13-9 (59%) 13-9 (59%) 27.83 52.50 6
6 Big Ten 14 50-25 (67%) 39-14 (74%) 27.71 54.25 5
7 American Athletic 11 22-31 (42%) 17-26 (40%) 20.81 52.37 7
8 Mountain West 12 34-33 (51%) 23-22 (51%) 20.23 50.52 8
9 Conference USA 13 33-36 (48%) 23-26 (47%) 19.93 49.99 11
10 Mid-American 13 29-43 (40%) 20-34 (37%) 18.80 50.09 9


Sagarin:
1 SEC-WEST (A) = 89.82 89.69 ( 1) 7 89.71 ( 1)
2 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 80.05 78.99 ( 2) 6 79.65 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 79.39 78.67 ( 3) 10 79.16 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 79.20 78.05 ( 4) 7 78.79 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 77.26 77.91 ( 5) 6 77.70 ( 5)
6 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 75.26 75.65 ( 6) 7 75.46 ( 6)
7 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 74.82 74.72 ( 7) 7 74.87 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.18 73.87 ( 8) 7 73.91 ( 8)
9 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.90 73.29 ( 9) 7 73.58 ( 9)
10 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 72.18 72.35 ( 10) 4 72.23 ( 10)
11 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 66.12 65.76 ( 11) 6 65.84 ( 11)
12 AMERICAN ATHLETIC (A) = 63.96 63.95 ( 12) 11 63.98 ( 12)
13 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 63.06 62.71 ( 13) 10 62.86 ( 13)
14 MWC-WEST (A) = 62.11 61.53 ( 15) 6 61.86 ( 14)
15 CONFERENCE USA-WEST (A) = 61.63 61.53 ( 16) 6 61.52 ( 16)
16 CONFERENCE USA-EAST (A) = 61.44 62.02 ( 14) 7 61.71 ( 15)
17 MAC-WEST (A) = 60.56 59.76 ( 17) 6 60.33 ( 17)
18 MAC-EAST (A) = 55.25 55.72 ( 18) 7 55.59 ( 18)
19 SUN BELT (A) = 54.94 55.66 ( 19) 11 55.38 ( 19)

There are tons more of these out there….Just shows they are all pretty useless as they prove nothing tangible, just all depends on what metrics they use to to come up with a number for each team. None of them are right or wrong.




Realtime RPI is actually irrelevant to current day rankings since part of their rankings formula includes some of last years performance. To much swapping of conferences makes that data useless.


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(10-11-2014 10:01 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Have you been reading the posts of Marshall fans around here?

Please enlighten me because from what I've seen 'around here' there's really only one pompous group of fans. And they far and away exceed Marshall in their ominscient obtrusiveness.
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(10-11-2014 09:26 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(10-11-2014 09:17 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Same way you guys explain being 0fer against P5 opponents!!!! And losing 2 against FCS schools. We are 4-6 against G5 opponents.3 of those losses were from one team and probably the worst team in out league. Your number is trying to count the Independents which for the most part were 2 losses to a pretty good BYU team before they lost their starting QB.

still hungover from last night? I'm having trouble follwing your line of reasoning here (and don't want to dig up the AAC's team by team record to try to figure out what you're trying to say). Sounds like you don't want to count 3 of your G-5 losses; sorry but it don't work like that.

You have 3 wins against the P5, two by ECU and a close loss to USC, However, UTSA had just as close a loss to unbeaten Arizona, so that's a wash. And middle of the pack Houston was waxed by UTSA so we can play the transitive game all day. What can't be argued is our records v. similar opponents.

No…BYU and Navy are not part of the G5. Not a single thing that is confusing about that deal. What is this nonsense BS about a close loss being a wash with the AACs 3 wins against P5 schools? That has to be the most self serving nonsense I have ever heard. Also what is your response about 2 losses against FCS schools? I would love to hear how you try to rationalize that deal.
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(10-11-2014 09:26 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  still hungover from last night? I'm having trouble follwing your line of reasoning here (and don't want to dig up the AAC's team by team record to try to figure out what you're trying to say). Sounds like you don't want to count 3 of your G-5 losses; sorry but it don't work like that.

You have 3 wins against the P5, two by ECU and a close loss to USC, However, UTSA had just as close a loss to unbeaten Arizona, so that's a wash. And middle of the pack Houston was waxed by UTSA so we can play the transitive game all day. What can't be argued is our records v. similar opponents.
No…BYU and Navy are not part of the G5. Not a single thing that is confusing about that deal. What is this nonsense BS about a close loss being a wash with the AACs 3 wins against P5 schools? That has to be the most self serving nonsense I have ever heard. Also what is your response about 2 losses against FCS schools? I would love to hear how you try to rationalize that deal.
Reading comprehension does not appear to be a strong suit of yours; the wash was the USC loss by ECU and the UTSA loss to Arizona. It was pretty clear. So nothing self-serving, just a comparison.

and FCS losses? Weren't the first and won't be the last, they happen, just ask Michigan.

and as far as BYU and Navy are concerned, they have been recently, or will be G5 conference members, so there really is no issue in including them in the conversation here.
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