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RE: Kurds say air strikes push Islamic State back from Kobani
(10-10-2014 09:34 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Wasn't the supposed genocide against the Armenians?

Yes it was..

Quote:Anyway, regarding the Kurds, it was explained to me by a Turk that the Kurds wanting a state within modern Turkish borders is akin to Mexicans in the US wanting a Mexican state in the US, etc.

This is Turkey's "reported" Only problem with the Kurds. If the Kurds were willing to stop at their current borders, Turkey has implied they would have no problem with them. It's the Kurdish state in Turkey that is the 'fly in the ointment'
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RE: Kurds say air strikes push Islamic State back from Kobani
(10-10-2014 09:34 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-10-2014 07:55 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 06:39 PM)I45owl Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 03:51 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  ISIS wouldn't be dumb enough to attack Turkey, would they? Assuming they took Kobani.

The answer is probably yes. Yes, they are.

I wonder if that's what Turkey is counting on, as an attack may trigger mandatory NATO assistance. And, that may be what ISIS is counting on as well.

Turkey wants Assad gone, so they have a larger agenda in Syria than protecting Kurds.

They want Assad gone but they aren't exactly into protecting Kurds. The Turks have been trying to wipe out the Kurds since the end of WWI, when Turkey was effectively created as a political entity. They see the Syrian and Iraqui Kurds as potential sponsors of Turkish Kurdish terrorism. They even tried genocide.

Wasn't the supposed genocide against the Armenians?

I wasn't aware of genocide against the Kurds, but I wasn't able to dispute that, either.

To digress, it wasn't so long ago that there was a list of the longest threads on the internet. Among them were (paraphrasing because my memory sucks) "Team X 42, Team Y 44, Officials 13", "No Muslim transgressions", and something about "Armenian Genocide".

That was before the gay threads on ncaabbs.com.
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RE: Kurds say air strikes push Islamic State back from Kobani
Obama is doing what firefighters do in a situation where the object that's burning is left to burn but they still pour water on it for "looks" to avoid media criticism. Kaplony help me here, what's it called, I forgot.
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RE: Kurds say air strikes push Islamic State back from Kobani
(10-10-2014 11:34 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(10-10-2014 09:34 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Wasn't the supposed genocide against the Armenians?

Yes it was..

Quote:Anyway, regarding the Kurds, it was explained to me by a Turk that the Kurds wanting a state within modern Turkish borders is akin to Mexicans in the US wanting a Mexican state in the US, etc.

This is Turkey's "reported" Only problem with the Kurds. If the Kurds were willing to stop at their current borders, Turkey has implied they would have no problem with them. It's the Kurdish state in Turkey that is the 'fly in the ointment'

Yeah, the PKK is pain in Turkey's proverbial a$$. Only reason I'm in tune with this stuff is I once dated a Turkish girl and got an earful about stuff like this.
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RE: Kurds say air strikes push Islamic State back from Kobani
(10-10-2014 11:34 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(10-10-2014 09:34 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Wasn't the supposed genocide against the Armenians?

Yes it was..

Quote:Anyway, regarding the Kurds, it was explained to me by a Turk that the Kurds wanting a state within modern Turkish borders is akin to Mexicans in the US wanting a Mexican state in the US, etc.

This is Turkey's "reported" Only problem with the Kurds. If the Kurds were willing to stop at their current borders, Turkey has implied they would have no problem with them. It's the Kurdish state in Turkey that is the 'fly in the ointment'

Are they saying that the Kurdish state should lie entirely in Iraq?
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RE: Kurds say air strikes push Islamic State back from Kobani
(10-10-2014 02:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(10-10-2014 11:34 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(10-10-2014 09:34 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Wasn't the supposed genocide against the Armenians?

Yes it was..

Quote:Anyway, regarding the Kurds, it was explained to me by a Turk that the Kurds wanting a state within modern Turkish borders is akin to Mexicans in the US wanting a Mexican state in the US, etc.

This is Turkey's "reported" Only problem with the Kurds. If the Kurds were willing to stop at their current borders, Turkey has implied they would have no problem with them. It's the Kurdish state in Turkey that is the 'fly in the ointment'

Are they saying that the Kurdish state should lie entirely in Iraq?

From what I've gathered NIU (and it's been a while since I kept up on it, so I'm a bit rusty on the full geo-politics), the current "Proposed" Kurdistan that the Turks would agree to would be the north portion of modern Iraq part of Syria, and a chuck of Western Iran., providing they didn't try to claim any Turkish land as part of it.

[Image: kurdistan2.gif]

The proposed NW corner in the above map is the part they have an issue with... The kurds say that it should be rightfully there if the state is ever created.
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RE: Kurds say air strikes push Islamic State back from Kobani
Quote:Wasn't the supposed genocide against the Armenians?

You're correct, my mistake. Sometimes I get the ethnic groups mixed up. (Did the average American actually know the different groups during the Balkans conflict in the 1990s?)

However, the Turks do not get along with the Kurds and have had taken actions, not genocidal, against the Kurds. It is probably better described as an apartheid like situation.
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