(10-06-2014 07:53 AM)Mbruuner Wrote:  U know who would b really awesome...... Chad Morris from Clemson. I knw. I knw. I knw. Pipe dream

I was interested in him during our coaching search this year...he makes $1 Mill+ as an assistant to Swinney, so I knew that took us out of the running for him. Granted he may take a cut to be able to start and run his own program, but you have to think it's gonna take a nice chunk of change to get him away from there. I say all that without knowing anything about Troy's finances, maybe you could put together a good package for him...

Many top assistants are now making well over $1 million. That's tough for most G5 programs. I think the Trojans will take a look at Duwan Walker. He was a G.A. there before and has coached with Clark at Prattville, USA, Jax, and UAB.

Personally, I think you should always hire someone who has ambition to become a P5 head coach. I'm definitely not a fan of hiring a name especially if they have never won anywhere.

I would hire Brady Hoke before I hire Chizik.

(10-06-2014 08:14 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 07:53 AM)Mbruuner Wrote:  U know who would b really awesome...... Chad Morris from Clemson. I knw. I knw. I knw. Pipe dream

I was interested in him during our coaching search this year...he makes $1 Mill+ as an assistant to Swinney, so I knew that took us out of the running for him. Granted he may take a cut to be able to start and run his own program, but you have to think it's gonna take a nice chunk of change to get him away from there. I say all that without knowing anything about Troy's finances, maybe you could put together a good package for him...

Yup! Chad makes ~$1.3 mill @ Clemson, & it's true that would b one heck of an investment in a coach, from a G5 perspective. But u gotta know the investment would make MAJOR changes at TROY increasing: alumni donor-ship, fan support, facilities, enrollment, etc).


But again, it's a pipe dream...

RE: Troy Blakeney retiring at end of season!!!
How about Beau Baldwin, head coach of Eastern Washington. Here are his stats:

Beau Baldwin
Sport(s) Football
Current position
Title Head coach
Team Eastern Washington
Conference Big Sky
Record 56–22
Biographical details
Born May 21, 1972 (age 42)
Santa Barbara, California
Playing career
1990–1993 Central Washington
Position(s) Quarterback
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1994–2002 Central Washington (QB)
2003–2006 Eastern Washington (OC/QB)
2007 Central Washington
2008–present Eastern Washington

Head coaching record
Overall 66–25
Tournaments 2–1 (NCAA D-II playoffs)
8–3 (NCAA D-I playoffs)
Statistics
College Football Data Warehouse
Accomplishments and honors
Championships:
1 NCAA Division I FCS National (2010)
3 Big Sky (2010, 2012, 2013)
Awards:
2x Big Sky Coach of the Year (2012, 2013)

Beau Baldwin is a good idea to consider that could end up like Willie Fritz.

(10-06-2014 08:39 AM)Mbruuner Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 08:14 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 07:53 AM)Mbruuner Wrote:  U know who would b really awesome...... Chad Morris from Clemson. I knw. I knw. I knw. Pipe dream

I was interested in him during our coaching search this year...he makes $1 Mill+ as an assistant to Swinney, so I knew that took us out of the running for him. Granted he may take a cut to be able to start and run his own program, but you have to think it's gonna take a nice chunk of change to get him away from there. I say all that without knowing anything about Troy's finances, maybe you could put together a good package for him...

Yup! Chad makes ~$1.3 mill @ Clemson, & it's true that would b one heck of an investment in a coach, from a G5 perspective. But u gotta know the investment would make MAJOR changes at TROY increasing: alumni donor-ship, fan support, facilities, enrollment, etc).


But again, it's a pipe dream...

Morris came really close to taking the Arkansas State job a few months ago, so going to a Sun Belt School is certainly not out of the question. He's ready to coach, and would probably accept a similar salary to do it without a pay rise, but does Troy have 1.1 million dollars or so to offer?

The reality is, I think he waits for the school he knows he can win at.

Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

From what I've gathered from what people have told me Troy is gonna pay around 700-800k for a coach.

I'm hoping the assistants get a pay increase. It's needed

(10-06-2014 09:44 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 08:39 AM)Mbruuner Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 08:14 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 07:53 AM)Mbruuner Wrote:  U know who would b really awesome...... Chad Morris from Clemson. I knw. I knw. I knw. Pipe dream

I was interested in him during our coaching search this year...he makes $1 Mill+ as an assistant to Swinney, so I knew that took us out of the running for him. Granted he may take a cut to be able to start and run his own program, but you have to think it's gonna take a nice chunk of change to get him away from there. I say all that without knowing anything about Troy's finances, maybe you could put together a good package for him...

Yup! Chad makes ~$1.3 mill @ Clemson, & it's true that would b one heck of an investment in a coach, from a G5 perspective. But u gotta know the investment would make MAJOR changes at TROY increasing: alumni donor-ship, fan support, facilities, enrollment, etc).


But again, it's a pipe dream...

Morris came really close to taking the Arkansas State job a few months ago, so going to a Sun Belt School is certainly not out of the question. He's ready to coach, and would probably accept a similar salary to do it without a pay rise, but does Troy have 1.1 million dollars or so to offer?

The reality is, I think he waits for the school he knows he can win at.

I agree, Chad wants to go to a sure fire winner. I'd like to believe that TROY could come up with $1million per to snag a worthy prospect. In looking at Wikipedia we should be able to compete with stAte & ULL in athletic expenses. But I'm Not really sure

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

Pruitt would be a huge get, but I seriously doubt he comes to Troy, unless his wife wants to go home. Which I don't think she does.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

I wouldn't cross Pruitt off. If Troy wants to be competitive with AState and ULL (and that should be the mindset of a team with 5 conference titles) than they need to offer about 700K for a coach.

A Lot of assistants will take a similar salary, or even a tiny pay cut to get into head coaching.

The question is, is the last few seasons at Troy enough that it takes some names out of the pot because they look like a rebuild? Had Blakeney retired 3 years ago, Pruitt would take that job in a heart beat.

(10-06-2014 09:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

I wouldn't cross Pruitt off. If Troy wants to be competitive with AState and ULL (and that should be the mindset of a team with 5 conference titles) than they need to offer about 700K for a coach.

A Lot of assistants will take a similar salary, or even a tiny pay cut to get into head coaching.

The question is, is the last few seasons at Troy enough that it takes some names out of the pot because they look like a rebuild? Had Blakeney retired 3 years ago, Pruitt would take that job in a heart beat.

I could be wrong, but I think Troy will pay around what ULL and StAte is paying for whoever we get.

(10-06-2014 09:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

I wouldn't cross Pruitt off. If Troy wants to be competitive with AState and ULL (and that should be the mindset of a team with 5 conference titles) than they need to offer about 700K for a coach.

A Lot of assistants will take a similar salary, or even a tiny pay cut to get into head coaching.

The question is, is the last few seasons at Troy enough that it takes some names out of the pot because they look like a rebuild? Had Blakeney retired 3 years ago, Pruitt would take that job in a heart beat.

Two problems I see with that...

1) If it's just Troy kicking the tires on Pruitt, UGA would give him a raise to keep him if need be.

2) It won't be just Troy.

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

Pruitt would be a huge get, but I seriously doubt he comes to Troy, unless his wife wants to go home. Which I don't think she does.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

(10-06-2014 10:01 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

I wouldn't cross Pruitt off. If Troy wants to be competitive with AState and ULL (and that should be the mindset of a team with 5 conference titles) than they need to offer about 700K for a coach.

A Lot of assistants will take a similar salary, or even a tiny pay cut to get into head coaching.

The question is, is the last few seasons at Troy enough that it takes some names out of the pot because they look like a rebuild? Had Blakeney retired 3 years ago, Pruitt would take that job in a heart beat.

I could be wrong, but I think Troy will pay around what ULL and StAte is paying for whoever we get.

I think its going to come down to what you can offer the assistants. StAte may only be paying 700K per year, but he deferred about 100K in potential salary instead to use to pay top level assistant salaries, and as a result we have three of the highest paid assistants amongst the MAC, CUSA, SBC grouping.

Can Troy shell out 200K to the right offensive coordinator if its a defensive minded coach, or vice versa? That will really make a big impact in decision making.

(10-06-2014 10:01 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

I wouldn't cross Pruitt off. If Troy wants to be competitive with AState and ULL (and that should be the mindset of a team with 5 conference titles) than they need to offer about 700K for a coach.

A Lot of assistants will take a similar salary, or even a tiny pay cut to get into head coaching.

The question is, is the last few seasons at Troy enough that it takes some names out of the pot because they look like a rebuild? Had Blakeney retired 3 years ago, Pruitt would take that job in a heart beat.

I could be wrong, but I think Troy will pay around what ULL and StAte is paying for whoever we get.

Hud is a million dollar man.

(10-06-2014 10:03 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 09:52 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Pruitt makes $850,000, I'd cross him off the list as well.

Troy was paying Blakeney $500,000, I can see them paying more than that to land the guy they want, but I doubt that they get anywhere near $1M.

I wouldn't cross Pruitt off. If Troy wants to be competitive with AState and ULL (and that should be the mindset of a team with 5 conference titles) than they need to offer about 700K for a coach.

A Lot of assistants will take a similar salary, or even a tiny pay cut to get into head coaching.

The question is, is the last few seasons at Troy enough that it takes some names out of the pot because they look like a rebuild? Had Blakeney retired 3 years ago, Pruitt would take that job in a heart beat.

Two problems I see with that...

1) If it's just Troy kicking the tires on Pruitt, UGA would give him a raise to keep him if need be.

2) It won't be just Troy.

Even pay raises can mean nothing. We've had a couple coaches spurn pay raises that would have paid them more overall to come here. Career advancement is the most important thing. If Jeremy Pruitt felt he could immediately at Troy, and he wants to be a HC, he'd likely take the chance. Take a lesser salary knowing that success at Troy could mean a multi million head coach offer from a P5 school.

I think Troy's biggest issue is they've had 3 straights losing seasons. For all purposes, StAte got incredibly lucky that Hugh Freeze fell into our lap in 2010 and 2011. Then again, we could just be the exception to the rule because of our success, rather than the rule.

I wonder if Neal Brown would consider returning? Kentucky's having a great year, and his name is starting to get out there a bit. This might be Troy's one shot at him.

No offense meant here but Troy is going to be a complete rebuilding job..Guys like Pruitt and Morris are looking for better situations where they could win early and step up to a better job. A smarter move would be to hire a good FCS coach that is familiar with the south for recruiting and will stick out the process..

Rhett Lashlee will be a good one someday....but he's 31. Not sure if it matters, but that's pretty young.