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The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
They don't have one for Football this year. If 2 or more teams finish with the same record, they are considered Co-Champions. Per the AAC Website.
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10-05-2014 09:38 PM |
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
The AAC will declare the highest ranked co champion as the champion for the access bowl. Sine we couldn't have a championship game this year, there really isn't a fair way to break a tie, so it is what it is for this year.
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10-05-2014 11:19 PM |
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-05-2014 11:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The AAC will declare the highest ranked co champion as the champion for the access bowl. Sine we couldn't have a championship game this year, there really isn't a fair way to break a tie, so it is what it is for this year.
Not correct. The AAC will declare co-champs. Period. Then the CFP Selection Committee will decide if one of them is the champ selected to go to the access bowl over all other G5 champs.
If neither is selected, then each will go to whatever bowl they get.
Either way, both (or more) are forever co-champs, regardless of whether one is higher ranked, makes the access bowl, etc.
(This post was last modified: 10-06-2014 05:23 AM by TripleA.)
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
It is wonderful that Tiger football fans may discuss with legitimacy the possibility of winning the AAC. It is a tough task, but the opportunity to grasp the brass ring awaits.
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10-06-2014 06:43 AM |
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
ECU's wins are looking less and less impressive as the season plays out and ECU's loss is looking worse and worse. At this point at least, I think a good case could be made for Memphis as a better football team than ECU. Too bad we won't have the opportunity to prove that.
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10-06-2014 08:32 PM |
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-06-2014 05:22 AM)TripleA Wrote: (10-05-2014 11:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The AAC will declare the highest ranked co champion as the champion for the access bowl. Sine we couldn't have a championship game this year, there really isn't a fair way to break a tie, so it is what it is for this year.
Not correct. The AAC will declare co-champs. Period. Then the CFP Selection Committee will decide if one of them is the champ selected to go to the access bowl over all other G5 champs.
If neither is selected, then each will go to whatever bowl they get.
Either way, both (or more) are forever co-champs, regardless of whether one is higher ranked, makes the access bowl, etc.
Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
(This post was last modified: 10-06-2014 10:12 PM by UofMstateU.)
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-06-2014 10:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 05:22 AM)TripleA Wrote: (10-05-2014 11:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The AAC will declare the highest ranked co champion as the champion for the access bowl. Sine we couldn't have a championship game this year, there really isn't a fair way to break a tie, so it is what it is for this year.
Not correct. The AAC will declare co-champs. Period. Then the CFP Selection Committee will decide if one of them is the champ selected to go to the access bowl over all other G5 champs.
If neither is selected, then each will go to whatever bowl they get.
Either way, both (or more) are forever co-champs, regardless of whether one is higher ranked, makes the access bowl, etc.
Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
It's being over-thought. The AAC has no tie breaking procedure, this year only. If two or more teams tie, they are co-champs. Period.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACCESS BOWL.
THEN, the selection committee, instead of having 5 teams to pick from for the G5 access slot, will have 6. The other 4 G5 champs, + EITHER of the 2 AAC co-champs.
It ain't that complicated.
In effect, if two teams tie, AND the CFP SC picks one of our co-champs, then they get the access bowl. But they STILL are AAC co-champs, lol.
(This post was last modified: 10-06-2014 11:16 PM by TripleA.)
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
As I said....
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10-07-2014 04:17 AM |
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
Why have so many teams if we are not going to have a title game?
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10-07-2014 08:36 AM |
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 08:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote: Why have so many teams if we are not going to have a title game?
We're going to, next year. Navy joins, to get the AAC to 12. Then, we are breaking into divisions (only for football), with the 2 division champs meeting in the CCG.
Ironically, if the new rule had been in place this season, we could have played a CCG with 11 teams. And next year, when it will be in place, we'll have 12 teams, lol.
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-06-2014 11:09 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (10-06-2014 10:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 05:22 AM)TripleA Wrote: (10-05-2014 11:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The AAC will declare the highest ranked co champion as the champion for the access bowl. Sine we couldn't have a championship game this year, there really isn't a fair way to break a tie, so it is what it is for this year.
Not correct. The AAC will declare co-champs. Period. Then the CFP Selection Committee will decide if one of them is the champ selected to go to the access bowl over all other G5 champs.
If neither is selected, then each will go to whatever bowl they get.
Either way, both (or more) are forever co-champs, regardless of whether one is higher ranked, makes the access bowl, etc.
Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
I would say that Marshall, at a minimum, needs to beat mtsu by a bigger margin of victory than we did and go undefeated. And Marshall can not afford any close calls against the crappy opponents either.
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10-07-2014 08:55 AM |
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 08:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 11:09 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (10-06-2014 10:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 05:22 AM)TripleA Wrote: (10-05-2014 11:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The AAC will declare the highest ranked co champion as the champion for the access bowl. Sine we couldn't have a championship game this year, there really isn't a fair way to break a tie, so it is what it is for this year.
Not correct. The AAC will declare co-champs. Period. Then the CFP Selection Committee will decide if one of them is the champ selected to go to the access bowl over all other G5 champs.
If neither is selected, then each will go to whatever bowl they get.
Either way, both (or more) are forever co-champs, regardless of whether one is higher ranked, makes the access bowl, etc.
Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
I would say that Marshall, at a minimum, needs to beat mtsu by a bigger margin of victory than we did and go undefeated. And Marshall can not afford any close calls against the crappy opponents either.
If ECU wins out I just don't see Marshall jumping them even if they're undefeated. ECU will still have the better SOS even tho AAC seems to be having a bit of a down year and their ooc wins not looking as good. Hopefully the CFP committee agrees when their first poll comes out.
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 09:59 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 11:09 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (10-06-2014 10:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 05:22 AM)TripleA Wrote: Not correct. The AAC will declare co-champs. Period. Then the CFP Selection Committee will decide if one of them is the champ selected to go to the access bowl over all other G5 champs.
If neither is selected, then each will go to whatever bowl they get.
Either way, both (or more) are forever co-champs, regardless of whether one is higher ranked, makes the access bowl, etc.
Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
I would say that Marshall, at a minimum, needs to beat mtsu by a bigger margin of victory than we did and go undefeated. And Marshall can not afford any close calls against the crappy opponents either.
If ECU wins out I just don't see Marshall jumping them even if they're undefeated. ECU will still have the better SOS even tho AAC seems to be having a bit of a down year and their ooc wins not looking as good. Hopefully the CFP committee agrees when their first poll comes out.
ECUs strength of schedule is 187.
Marshall's SOS is 184.
(This post was last modified: 10-07-2014 10:09 AM by TIGERCITY.)
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 09:59 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 11:09 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (10-06-2014 10:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 05:22 AM)TripleA Wrote: Not correct. The AAC will declare co-champs. Period. Then the CFP Selection Committee will decide if one of them is the champ selected to go to the access bowl over all other G5 champs.
If neither is selected, then each will go to whatever bowl they get.
Either way, both (or more) are forever co-champs, regardless of whether one is higher ranked, makes the access bowl, etc.
Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
I would say that Marshall, at a minimum, needs to beat mtsu by a bigger margin of victory than we did and go undefeated. And Marshall can not afford any close calls against the crappy opponents either.
If ECU wins out I just don't see Marshall jumping them even if they're undefeated. ECU will still have the better SOS even tho AAC seems to be having a bit of a down year and their ooc wins not looking as good. Hopefully the CFP committee agrees when their first poll comes out.
I don't either, and I don't see Memphis jumping ecu if both win out. The real scenario plays out if ecu drops a game, like to UCf, and Memphis wins out. That could leave a two loss Memphis champ versus an undefeated Marshall champ. In that scenario, I still believe Marshall has to demolish the inferior teams, and beat mtsu by a larger margin than we did. Aresco will be beating the phones describing how we were competitive against both of those top 15 teams, to the point where the games were within a score or less into the 4th quarter.
I still believe the SOS is going to play such a big part of the equation that it keeps Marshall out barring a severe collapse of the AAC teams. The p5 teams have certainly scheduled OOC like they believed that would be the case.
(This post was last modified: 10-07-2014 10:09 AM by UofMstateU.)
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 10:06 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: (10-07-2014 09:59 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 11:09 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (10-06-2014 10:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
I would say that Marshall, at a minimum, needs to beat mtsu by a bigger margin of victory than we did and go undefeated. And Marshall can not afford any close calls against the crappy opponents either.
If ECU wins out I just don't see Marshall jumping them even if they're undefeated. ECU will still have the better SOS even tho AAC seems to be having a bit of a down year and their ooc wins not looking as good. Hopefully the CFP committee agrees when their first poll comes out.
ECUs strength of schedule is 187.
Marshall's SOS is 184.
"Will still have" as in at the end of the season.
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 08:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote: Why have so many teams if we are not going to have a title game?
We're going to, next year. Navy joins, to get the AAC to 12. Then, we are breaking into divisions (only for football), with the 2 division champs meeting in the CCG.
Ironically, if the new rule had been in place this season, we could have played a CCG with 11 teams. And next year, when it will be in place, we'll have 12 teams, lol.
Then let's kick out 2 schools after Navy joins to get back to 10 and play a nine game league schedule with no CCG and have one true champion...oh wait, the Big 12 (10) already brags about doing that.....
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 09:39 PM)bluebacker Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote: Why have so many teams if we are not going to have a title game?
We're going to, next year. Navy joins, to get the AAC to 12. Then, we are breaking into divisions (only for football), with the 2 division champs meeting in the CCG.
Ironically, if the new rule had been in place this season, we could have played a CCG with 11 teams. And next year, when it will be in place, we'll have 12 teams, lol.
Then let's kick out 2 schools after Navy joins to get back to 10 and play a nine game league schedule with no CCG and have one true champion...oh wait, the Big 12 (10) already brags about doing that.....
Yeah, good luck kicking out anybody. I would vote for Tulsa and Tulane, although I love going to NOLA. Maybe Tulsa and USF.
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 10:06 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: (10-07-2014 09:59 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 11:09 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (10-06-2014 10:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: Technically this is what I said. The rules for the access bowl is that the highest ranked conference champion gets in. The AAC has already stated that the highest rated co champion will be the champion as far as the access bowl is concerned. They will both be co champions, but there can only be one champion for the access bowl.
Edit : ok, I see the confusion. For some reason, I thought the question of the tie breaker was dealing with who would get the access bowl slot.
That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
I would say that Marshall, at a minimum, needs to beat mtsu by a bigger margin of victory than we did and go undefeated. And Marshall can not afford any close calls against the crappy opponents either.
If ECU wins out I just don't see Marshall jumping them even if they're undefeated. ECU will still have the better SOS even tho AAC seems to be having a bit of a down year and their ooc wins not looking as good. Hopefully the CFP committee agrees when their first poll comes out.
ECUs strength of schedule is 187.
Marshall's SOS is 184.
What are you talking about. This is impossible, think about it... marshall has played miami,ohio, odu, rhode island, akron
ecu has played south carolina, vatech, unc, nc central and smu
SOS
ECU is 83
Marshall is 122 out of 128, with 2 future opponents ranked below them
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RE: The AAC Tie Breaking Procedure:
(10-07-2014 10:56 PM)shere khan Wrote: (10-07-2014 10:06 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: (10-07-2014 09:59 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: (10-07-2014 08:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (10-06-2014 11:09 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: That is, IF THE AAC GETS the access bowl slot. Somebody's GOT to beat Marshall. That would be a travesty!
I would say that Marshall, at a minimum, needs to beat mtsu by a bigger margin of victory than we did and go undefeated. And Marshall can not afford any close calls against the crappy opponents either.
If ECU wins out I just don't see Marshall jumping them even if they're undefeated. ECU will still have the better SOS even tho AAC seems to be having a bit of a down year and their ooc wins not looking as good. Hopefully the CFP committee agrees when their first poll comes out.
ECUs strength of schedule is 187.
Marshall's SOS is 184.
What are you talking about. This is impossible, think about it... marshall has played miami,ohio, odu, rhode island, akron
ecu has played south carolina, vatech, unc, nc central and smu
SOS
ECU is 83
Marshall is 122 out of 128, with 2 future opponents ranked below them
Ranked 184 out of 128?
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