(10-05-2014 06:41 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:19 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:11 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I would say Ohio St but for the fact the game with them is at Michigan St.

Despite the fact that I was right about TCU, right about the SEC beginning to cannibalize themselves, right about the PAC being in disarray...I was wrong about the Big Ten.

Wisconsin was my pick out of the West and Michigan State was my pick out of the East to have a showdown of 11-1 teams in the Conference Championship.

Now, I don't know. I am hoping that someone can rise out of the West and not get tripped up by Northwestern and can topple Wisconsin. Whether it be Nebraska, Iowa or....Minnesota, it doesn't matter but they have to win out and only get 1 loss.

Either way, if Michigan State cant get their **** together during the second half of games then Ohio State is definitely the better team. Michigan State's game tonight was at home so saying that is the tipping point of them winning against an Ohio State team that is much better than that Nebraska team? Home field advantage is not enough. Michigan State needs to improve their second half play.

An 11-1 Ohio State vs an 11-1 Nebraska is no different than an 11-1 Wisconsin vs an 11-1 Michigan State.

H1 Arkansas, A&M, Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., Ole Miss & Miss State all have to play each other since they are members of the same division. I hardly call your prediction anything worth mentioning since it was practically a mathematical certitude. With Oregon, Virginia Tech, and L.S.U. all getting beaten the likelihood of a Big 10 playoff spot is very remote. IMO the winner of Michigan State and Ohio State will have the best shot, but not a great shot, or even a likely shot.

Not a mathematical certainty. The SEC has had a run where a couple of teams separated themselves. I've been saying the SEC was due for a cannibalization. Really its more like the typical SEC instead of the stratified SEC we've had the last 5 years or so. The middle of the SEC has typically been a real threat to the top quarter instead of the top quarter pounding everyone below, the 2nd quarter pounding the bottom half and the 3rd quarter pounding the bottom quarter.

(10-05-2014 06:41 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:19 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:11 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I would say Ohio St but for the fact the game with them is at Michigan St.

Despite the fact that I was right about TCU, right about the SEC beginning to cannibalize themselves, right about the PAC being in disarray...I was wrong about the Big Ten.

Wisconsin was my pick out of the West and Michigan State was my pick out of the East to have a showdown of 11-1 teams in the Conference Championship.

Now, I don't know. I am hoping that someone can rise out of the West and not get tripped up by Northwestern and can topple Wisconsin. Whether it be Nebraska, Iowa or....Minnesota, it doesn't matter but they have to win out and only get 1 loss.

Either way, if Michigan State cant get their **** together during the second half of games then Ohio State is definitely the better team. Michigan State's game tonight was at home so saying that is the tipping point of them winning against an Ohio State team that is much better than that Nebraska team? Home field advantage is not enough. Michigan State needs to improve their second half play.

An 11-1 Ohio State vs an 11-1 Nebraska is no different than an 11-1 Wisconsin vs an 11-1 Michigan State.

H1 Arkansas, A&M, Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., Ole Miss & Miss State all have to play each other since they are members of the same division. I hardly call your prediction anything worth mentioning since it was practically a mathematical certitude. With Oregon, Virginia Tech, and L.S.U. all getting beaten the likelihood of a Big 10 playoff spot is very remote. IMO the winner of Michigan State and Ohio State will have the best shot, but not a great shot, or even a likely shot.

Michigan St. and Ohio St. have decent shots as they seem to be highly regarded. Early season losses probably won't have as much as an impact. And every conference except the ACC looks like there will be lots of upsets at the top.

(10-05-2014 12:32 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 10:56 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  Michigan does not belong in the same breath as those other teams. But this has been an awesome Saturday.

Agreed. Almost any other year and it does belong with those teams. But if you asked anyone off the street two years ago whether Rutgers would be 1-0 against Michigan after their first meeting they'd have looked at you like seriously.

IMO that's what makes this so sweet. You could hear to collective gasp from Ann Arbor all across the nation, along with that massive cheer from Piscataway.

(10-05-2014 06:41 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:19 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:11 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I would say Ohio St but for the fact the game with them is at Michigan St.

Despite the fact that I was right about TCU, right about the SEC beginning to cannibalize themselves, right about the PAC being in disarray...I was wrong about the Big Ten.

Wisconsin was my pick out of the West and Michigan State was my pick out of the East to have a showdown of 11-1 teams in the Conference Championship.

Now, I don't know. I am hoping that someone can rise out of the West and not get tripped up by Northwestern and can topple Wisconsin. Whether it be Nebraska, Iowa or....Minnesota, it doesn't matter but they have to win out and only get 1 loss.

Either way, if Michigan State cant get their **** together during the second half of games then Ohio State is definitely the better team. Michigan State's game tonight was at home so saying that is the tipping point of them winning against an Ohio State team that is much better than that Nebraska team? Home field advantage is not enough. Michigan State needs to improve their second half play.

An 11-1 Ohio State vs an 11-1 Nebraska is no different than an 11-1 Wisconsin vs an 11-1 Michigan State.

H1 Arkansas, A&M, Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., Ole Miss & Miss State all have to play each other since they are members of the same division. I hardly call your prediction anything worth mentioning since it was practically a mathematical certitude. With Oregon, Virginia Tech, and L.S.U. all getting beaten the likelihood of a Big 10 playoff spot is very remote. IMO the winner of Michigan State and Ohio State will have the best shot, but not a great shot, or even a likely shot.

Just keep telling yourself that.

(10-05-2014 08:55 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 06:41 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:19 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:11 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I would say Ohio St but for the fact the game with them is at Michigan St.

Despite the fact that I was right about TCU, right about the SEC beginning to cannibalize themselves, right about the PAC being in disarray...I was wrong about the Big Ten.

Wisconsin was my pick out of the West and Michigan State was my pick out of the East to have a showdown of 11-1 teams in the Conference Championship.

Now, I don't know. I am hoping that someone can rise out of the West and not get tripped up by Northwestern and can topple Wisconsin. Whether it be Nebraska, Iowa or....Minnesota, it doesn't matter but they have to win out and only get 1 loss.

Either way, if Michigan State cant get their **** together during the second half of games then Ohio State is definitely the better team. Michigan State's game tonight was at home so saying that is the tipping point of them winning against an Ohio State team that is much better than that Nebraska team? Home field advantage is not enough. Michigan State needs to improve their second half play.

An 11-1 Ohio State vs an 11-1 Nebraska is no different than an 11-1 Wisconsin vs an 11-1 Michigan State.

H1 Arkansas, A&M, Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., Ole Miss & Miss State all have to play each other since they are members of the same division. I hardly call your prediction anything worth mentioning since it was practically a mathematical certitude. With Oregon, Virginia Tech, and L.S.U. all getting beaten the likelihood of a Big 10 playoff spot is very remote. IMO the winner of Michigan State and Ohio State will have the best shot, but not a great shot, or even a likely shot.

Not a mathematical certainty. The SEC has had a run where a couple of teams separated themselves. I've been saying the SEC was due for a cannibalization. Really its more like the typical SEC instead of the stratified SEC we've had the last 5 years or so. The middle of the SEC has typically been a real threat to the top quarter instead of the top quarter pounding everyone below, the 2nd quarter pounding the bottom half and the 3rd quarter pounding the bottom quarter.

I think a lot of folks still havnt had it sunk in how we could end up seeing a 2 loss champ out of the West go up against a 1 loss Georgia from the East and very possibly beat that Georgia team so that a two loss team is what the SEC offers up.

I am sure they will think that 2 loss team gets in but that is not a sure thing depending upon the rest of the field. Ohio State looks good. Folks are already saying Barnett is everything that Miller was and Miller was regarded as a Heisman candidate this year. Ohio State is handling their opponents like Michigan State should be. If Ohio State runs the table then it is going to be very hard for that Committee to pass up a 12-1 Ohio State for a 2 loss SEC team if it comes to that.

Just look at how the mystique of that Texas A&M team is broken now. The same is the case for Alabama. Alabama lost that game as much or more so than Ole Miss won it. They aren't going to be viewed the same. That is just after one loss, if the top West team comes out of that madness with two losses then they are not going to be perceived as being an absolute lock.

A win against Georgia isn't going to be the end all of any debate either as Georgia's loss came to South Carolina and even South Carolina's coach says the aren't good at all.

The unthinkable is possible all of a sudden. Instead of facing that reality, we are already seeing persons deflect and attack.

Michigan State wins out and I think they will they have a great shot...don't discount the B1G to make the CFP...can see the SEC & Pac 12 cannibalizing themselves...

(10-05-2014 10:02 AM)Maize Wrote:  Michigan State wins out and I think they will they have a great shot...don't discount the B1G to make the CFP...can see the SEC & Pac 12 cannibalizing themselves...

They havnt fully eaten their young yet but all these possible "triangulations" don't bode well for the likes of the SEC and PAC. The Big 12 may be in the same situation but for some reason it doesn't quite feel as bad to me at this point.

The PAC actually feels more cannibalized at this point to me then the SEC does but the SEC could definitely go down that road from here on out.

This season definitely got more interesting. Yesterday shuffled the deck.

It is still way to early to get caught up and worry about all of this stuff.

I just enjoyed the carnage yesterday and Golson's clutch throw.

The rest will sort itself out without me.