(10-04-2014 09:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (10-04-2014 08:56 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: (10-04-2014 02:52 AM)JRsec Wrote: (10-03-2014 08:30 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: (10-03-2014 10:57 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: This result hurts Sparty's chances, bad.
No it doesn't. It is an early season game. Their gameplay at the end of the season will matter more. Sorry, just wishful thinking on your part.
The PAC and SEC could very well end up cannibalizing themselves.
Don't count on it. It's clearer now than in week #2 just how weak the Big 10 really is. Oregon was a good loss in week #2 not so much now. Either Nebraska gets a first loss, or Sparty gets a second one. McNeese State will still factor in as a fortunate win no matter what. Wisconsin's narrow loss to L.S.U. doesn't impress as much since Mississippi State handled them. Now tonight Utah State crimps B.Y.U. which weakens the Big 12 S.O.S. even more not to mention the ACC's S.O.S. If Nebraska beats Michigan State and Whisky takes care of the Huskers it's all over for the Big 10 H1. The best bet now is for Michigan State to win out. The Huskers aren't that good.
Yet again you ignore the fact that SEC ranked teams are going to lose today. If some of the "underdogs" win, the SEC is in bad shape. Oh but...the Big Ten looks worse than ever this week.
Whatever dude.
Your attempt to deflect the point is so damn obvious. You never EVER deal with the reality of the situation in the SEC, especially this year. Whenever anything negative is brought up, you go on attack mode and say silly stuff. The Big Ten looks worse now than it did in week 2? Does the idea of the SEC cannibalizing itself, starting this week, really drive you that mad?
The PAC has three ranked teams, the Big Ten has four.
The ACC has one ranked team.
Only the Big 12 and SEC have more. Both the Big 12 and SEC need to seriously worry though about cannibalization within because the top teams aren't that much better than the teams nipping at their heels.
The Big Ten is in the fight and you seem to hate that. You opinion on their "weakness" is invalid.
I agree that the B1G is in the fight, but to me it's an uphill struggle. Here's why:
1) FSU is almost a sure thing to make the playoffs. Their schedule is so soft, they do not face anyone who can seriously challenge them. As the game vs NC State, showed, even when they play a bad game, they have so much more talent than other ACC teams that they win anyway. So that's one slot gone.
2) Despite 'cannibalization', it is almost inconceivable that the SEC champ doesn't get into the playoffs. That team will have had to play such a tough schedule that the whole process would seem bogus if they were left out. So that's two slots.
3) The Big 12 is also very tough, such that the team that emerges from that conference will almost surely beat out the B1G champ too, on SOS alone. You have to hope some real dark-horse emerges to knock off Oklahoma AND Baylor, which is unlikely.
4) The PAC champ is going to have a big advantage over the B1G, thanks to Oregon beating MSU. Because either Oregon will be the PAC champ (in which case they have the win over MSU), or else someone else like Arizona or Stanford or USC wins the PAC, which means they beat out Oregon, the team that beat MSU. The best hope is for Nebraska to go unbeaten, but Nebraska's SOS is going to be very soft.
So the B1G looks to be the odd man out. Not saying that this is a sure thing, but that's the way it looks.
FSU could easily lose to Notre Dame and Florida. Their game against North Carolina State proved that those two games aren't their only two potential losses. FSU is not a lock. They are not the FSU of last year.
If the SEC ends up with an ugly situation happening in the SEC Championship game then it is possible, not probable, but possible that they get locked out. That being said, in my projections I only pencil in one spot as a lock in the Playoff at this point and that is an SEC team lock.
Actually I am starting that look this week. Oklahoma travels to TCU to play this week. People like to overlook the Frogs, that is a mistake. Oklahoma better not make that mistake.
Baylor plays at Texas today. I am not saying it is a good chance of them losing but it is possible. Texas has the horses, I just doubt whether Strong has them in the mentality to beat Baylor today. If for some reason Baylor coming to town gets them in the right mindset then we could end up seeing a Texas team today that we havnt seen yet.
All that being said, I will say it again because you seem to always have to pit the PAC vs the Big Ten. The Big Ten doesn't need the PAC to not get in, in order to get in. As I have listed, there is still all kinds of opportunity for some losses to happen in the likes of the Big 12 and the SEC. FSU isn't a lock yet either.
As I said elsewhere, I do believe That Oregon team is going to lose to UCLA at UCLA. I think Stanford will beat them when they come to Autzen and right now it is very possible that Oregon loses at Oregon State. I think it is very likely Oregon isn't even in the conversation at the end. The real threat I see in the PAC is UCLA. They have Arizona, USC and Stanford all at home. Their problem is they play USC and Stanford back to back right before the PAC Championship game. That may be too much at the end of the season.
My major point is this: We are just getting into the heart of this season. So much can still happen, people are still making major assumptions about these teams. I think this week will help with the big picture but even so...we still wont know. If you are assuming Oregon is going to make it through this year, then you are making a huge assumption that it seems like their Offensive Line cannot back up.
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RichRod knocks off #2 Oregon
