DxfanMiner
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OT: Ebola
Should we be concerned??
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(This post was last modified: 10-01-2014 04:43 PM by DxfanMiner.)
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Cscollis
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RE: OT: Ebola
If you were on the plane with the Ebola guy yes. If not, just stay home for 21 days and all the ebola infected will be zombies.
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10-01-2014 05:31 PM |
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RE: OT: Ebola
Not unless you have touched the blood, vomit, urine, feces or other body fluids of someone with the decease.
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RE: OT: Ebola
As long as it is only transmitted as it is, ie direct contact with bodily fluids, and only after the infected are showing signs, we in the US really shouldn't be alarmed. We have very effective ways of communicating info in this country when we need to share information.
The lack of basic infrastructure and communication in West Africa is what has been the main thing that has hurt the containment efforts. They can't effectively share information to the masses, or the methods aren't seen as credible and trustworthy. We are lucky we have lots of news outlets that we can reasonably rely on.
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RE: OT: Ebola
No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
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10-01-2014 06:00 PM |
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.
I admit I'm not an licensed microbiologist BUT from what I've read and know about this type of bug (i.e. hemorrhagic fevers) they don't mutate much at all and for them to go from fluid-only transmission to airborne would be something like chickens mutating into velocoraptors.
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 06:35 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.
I admit I'm not an licensed microbiologist BUT from what I've read and know about this type of bug (i.e. hemorrhagic fevers) they don't mutate much at all and for them to go from fluid-only transmission to airborne would be something like chickens mutating into velocoraptors.
Actually, from everything I've read, it mutates continuously but you are correct in that it is very unlikely to mutate into a true airborne contagion. Not impossible, but very, very unlikely....
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 06:51 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:35 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.
I admit I'm not an licensed microbiologist BUT from what I've read and know about this type of bug (i.e. hemorrhagic fevers) they don't mutate much at all and for them to go from fluid-only transmission to airborne would be something like chickens mutating into velocoraptors.
Actually, from everything I've read, it mutates continuously but you are correct in that it is very unlikely to mutate into a true airborne contagion. Not impossible, but very, very unlikely....
The mutations for a thing like that don't really have much to do with how it's transmitted, I believe, since it's the very nature of the bug itself to be fluid-based transmission. You're right it's not totally impossible but it is an extremely, EXTREMELY miniscule chance of ever happening.
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 04:42 PM)DxfanMiner Wrote: Should we be concerned??
They keep saying that it is only transmitted through body fluids yet American health care workers who presumably have greater knowledge of the pathology than the general public and took significant precautions (gloves, masks, etc) were infected with it.
They also said that it was unlikely to reach US soil, except that it did.
Panicked? No. Concerned? I think that is a reasonable reaction.
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 07:05 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:51 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:35 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.
I admit I'm not an licensed microbiologist BUT from what I've read and know about this type of bug (i.e. hemorrhagic fevers) they don't mutate much at all and for them to go from fluid-only transmission to airborne would be something like chickens mutating into velocoraptors.
Actually, from everything I've read, it mutates continuously but you are correct in that it is very unlikely to mutate into a true airborne contagion. Not impossible, but very, very unlikely....
The mutations for a thing like that don't really have much to do with how it's transmitted, I believe, since it's the very nature of the bug itself to be fluid-based transmission. You're right it's not totally impossible but it is an extremely, EXTREMELY miniscule chance of ever happening.
From what I read a couple weeks ago, two things would need to occur for it to become airborne. First, the natural coating of the virus would have to mutate into a coating that wouldn't dry out when exposed to air. The other thing is for it to mutate into a virus that attacks the human lungs, since exhaling is how an airborne virus travels from one human to the next. Currently, this form of ebola attacks the liver (thus the bodily fluids issue....specifically blood). I read that a form of ebola in pigs (might have been another animal but I can't remember) attacks the lungs in that animal and was airborne. That particular version didn't affect humans though.
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OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
You're so cool.
Go Blue Raiders!
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RE: OT: Ebola
Though some of the info in this thread is slightly off base I'm glad to see the basic education is reaching the masses.
Among my other many roles (I know I'm a gypsy) I used to work at CDC. I worked the Marbug outbreak in Angola in 2005, and the answer as most already seem to know is no. The risk to people even directly in contact with this guy is so remote it's mind numbing watching Wolf Blitzer and the others on CNN and Fox get so bent out of shape by this. Infection by bodily fluids is a much greater threshold than other airborne viruses and given the symptoms would have to be presenting (and they get very sick very fast) before someone could pass it to another it's extremely remote.
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 06:35 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: No.
This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.
There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.
I admit I'm not an licensed microbiologist BUT from what I've read and know about this type of bug (i.e. hemorrhagic fevers) they don't mutate much at all and for them to go from fluid-only transmission to airborne would be something like chickens mutating into velocoraptors.
He watched too much tv. This is not a problem. Its a media scare to sell papers and ads on tv news programs.
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RE: OT: Ebola
I'm never concerned when my government tells me I'm completely safe. I mean the government folks will be working on their use or lose leave the next 3 months and there are a lot of holidays coming up so I'm sure they are focused on keeping me safe. What could possibly go wrong?
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10-02-2014 12:17 AM |
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RE: OT: Ebola
I'm more concerned about SHSU misspelling their own mascot. Then again, the "Coogs" followed suit later.
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-01-2014 04:42 PM)DxfanMiner Wrote: Should we be concerned??
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10-02-2014 08:13 AM |
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RE: OT: Ebola
(10-02-2014 08:00 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: http://www.naturalnews.com/047089_Ebola_...ation.html
There isn't an ounce of truth to anything in that article. Is this a parody site like the Onion?
I'll refute #1 and not going to waste my time with the rest of the garbage.
August 8, 2014 - CDC Director Tom Friedan
"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.
"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travellers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries - or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control - and are here with symptoms," he said.
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