(10-06-2014 07:58 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 03:38 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  I know part of why App St fans are so disappointed is because they think that they lost to a mediocre team. The fact is that the USA team in the first three games was underperforming compared to expectations, and that's when a lot of opinions are formed. The real Jags are closer to what you saw the last two weeks.
Receivers dropping balls was part of it, but the offensive line was in flux early due to injuries.
With everyone getting healthy and a bye week to recover from all the travel, I'm hoping USA will put together a run like they ended last season.

None of App's rational fans thought USA was a mediocre team. Many of us have been trying to warn these people we aren't playing in the SmallCon any longer. I think the reality check is beginning to sink in. IF, and I admit that's a big IF, people did their homework they would have known what was rolling into Boone. Your guys were visibly bigger and the number of upperclassmen compared to our young kids made this a bad matchup for the Apps. The Jags have several years of recruiting FBS players, the Mountaineers 1, arguably 2 classes. Plus we made a really bad Strength and Conditioning hire two years ago that put App way behind in player development. It has been corrected, but it's going to take a few years to catch up.

It is true what you said that I've bolded, something our coach has said regarding that, and it definitely applies to App as well: in the SoCon there was likely a couple of games a year that you could roll in and play your B game or possible C game and still win just based on talent. That's not gonna happen at this level, you have to bring the A game or you can get embarrassed.

(10-06-2014 07:47 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 09:15 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 08:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 09:27 AM)StillGotIt Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 08:20 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Zing!

The gameday atmosphere is going to surprise a lot of our new conference brothers this year.

C'mon guys, try to put a little effort into the smack. We all know USA had a home crowd this year larger than anything App has ever had or probably ever will have.

You guys didn't sell out Ladd Peebles stadium (40,000) for a top 20 SEC team (38,129) with them putting more people in the stands than you guys. KBS seats 23,150, but the bank allows for many more. App's largest home crowd of 31,500 was for FCS Elon (who might have brought the 500). Elon. Let that sink in a few seconds. If App were to bring in a top 20 SEC team they would have to add 20,000 seats.

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

1. The game was a sellout. Ladd's capacity has changed a bit after some renovations. It's now 38k. There is no room for overflow crowd and no place for standing room only.

2. It was a sellout. A sellout for a then unranked MSU.

3. It was a sellout. MSU fans came nowhere close to outnumbering USA fans. They probably had about 4500-5000. Speaking out of your butt that their fans outnumbered us doesn't make it true.

4. It was a sellout. The announced attendance (38,129) was announced as a sellout. Literally the ticket office had 0 tickets left for this game.

I apologize for getting the capacity wrong for Ladd Peebles Stadium. I got the number from another website and actually spoke to several of your fans in Boone who also told me about the renovations and the reduced capacity. As an FYI, the 2014 USA media guide shows the stadium's capacity at 33,471 after renovations.

I was obviously being a bit sarcastic saying the Miss State fans outnumbered your folks, but we still have something of an issue here. The media guide also indicates USA's largest crowd prior to the Miss State game was 26,738. If attendance was 38,129 I have to believe the Miss State fans accounted for more than "4500-5000" of the 11,348 additional fans over USA's previous largest crowd ever. Ranked or unranked Miss State is still an SEC school that draws 60,000+ each home game and travels extremely well. Especially that close to home.

BTW, I can take being corrected but there's no need to get so defensive.

I was defensive because you were just plain wrong and spouting it off as fact. USA has signage in the end zone sections that reduce the capacity to 33k. That was removed for the MSU game which bumped capacity back to 38k.

Mobile is an event town and that game was an event. Mobilians came out to see that game against an SEC team (supporting the Jags) where they haven't been out to see us play the FCS and Division II schools we played during our startup. We would have had well over 30k people against Troy in 2012 but that game was played in a monsoon. The bookstore tent ran out of ponchos and there were thousands of people that never left their tailgate tent because they didn't want to get soaked. Give us time. We are in our 6th year as a program EVER. We don't have decades' old following like the other programs we are competing against. We are building our tradition and core fanbase now.

Why is it hard to believe that a Mobile MSA of over 600,000 wouldn't put more people than normal in the stands wearing Jaguar red for the biggest sporting event in Mobile in decades? The MSU @ USA game made more money than the Senior Bowl and GoDaddy Bowls combined. That's what kind of event this was in Mobile.

(10-05-2014 08:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 09:27 AM)StillGotIt Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 08:20 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 07:50 AM)AppMtneer08 Wrote:  If anything is going to have an effect on USA, it will be the sight of a capacity crowd for a home game. something they don't get to experience

Zing!

The gameday atmosphere is going to surprise a lot of our new conference brothers this year.

C'mon guys, try to put a little effort into the smack. We all know USA had a home crowd this year larger than anything App has ever had or probably ever will have.

You guys didn't sell out Ladd Peebles stadium (40,000) for a top 20 SEC team (38,129) with them putting more people in the stands than you guys. KBS seats 23,150, but the bank allows for many more. App's largest home crowd of 31,500 was for FCS Elon (who might have brought the 500). Elon. Let that sink in a few seconds. If App were to bring in a top 20 SEC team they would have to add 20,000 seats.

No question App is struggling right now. Last night was a historic night with our first ever FBS home game and I was ashamed at how our fans didn't show up for the game to begin with, then left the stadium early. App fans have been spoiled with success. Many are arrogant and unrealistic. Most were making predictions of 5-6 wins prior to the season. Why they thought a roster loaded with FBS freshmen and not very good FCS upperclassmen would be better than one loaded with upperclass FBS players is beyond me.

Until ya'll start running the ball and stop pretending to be an Air Raid team, I don't see this getting better. I've watched Satterfield completely go away from the offense that made ya'll GOOD and it's confusing.

I have no idea what happened to us against you guys last year but we straight up shouldn't have lost that game. We got blasted, but it's amazing that it happened.

When I look at you guys right now I see us in the late 2008/2009 timeframe. That is not somewhere you want to be.

(10-06-2014 08:16 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 07:47 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 09:15 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 08:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 09:27 AM)StillGotIt Wrote:  C'mon guys, try to put a little effort into the smack. We all know USA had a home crowd this year larger than anything App has ever had or probably ever will have.

You guys didn't sell out Ladd Peebles stadium (40,000) for a top 20 SEC team (38,129) with them putting more people in the stands than you guys. KBS seats 23,150, but the bank allows for many more. App's largest home crowd of 31,500 was for FCS Elon (who might have brought the 500). Elon. Let that sink in a few seconds. If App were to bring in a top 20 SEC team they would have to add 20,000 seats.

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

1. The game was a sellout. Ladd's capacity has changed a bit after some renovations. It's now 38k. There is no room for overflow crowd and no place for standing room only.

2. It was a sellout. A sellout for a then unranked MSU.

3. It was a sellout. MSU fans came nowhere close to outnumbering USA fans. They probably had about 4500-5000. Speaking out of your butt that their fans outnumbered us doesn't make it true.

4. It was a sellout. The announced attendance (38,129) was announced as a sellout. Literally the ticket office had 0 tickets left for this game.

I apologize for getting the capacity wrong for Ladd Peebles Stadium. I got the number from another website and actually spoke to several of your fans in Boone who also told me about the renovations and the reduced capacity. As an FYI, the 2014 USA media guide shows the stadium's capacity at 33,471 after renovations.

I was obviously being a bit sarcastic saying the Miss State fans outnumbered your folks, but we still have something of an issue here. The media guide also indicates USA's largest crowd prior to the Miss State game was 26,738. If attendance was 38,129 I have to believe the Miss State fans accounted for more than "4500-5000" of the 11,348 additional fans over USA's previous largest crowd ever. Ranked or unranked Miss State is still an SEC school that draws 60,000+ each home game and travels extremely well. Especially that close to home.

BTW, I can take being corrected but there's no need to get so defensive.

I was defensive because you were just plain wrong and spouting it off as fact. USA has signage in the end zone sections that reduce the capacity to 33k. That was removed for the MSU game which bumped capacity back to 38k.

Mobile is an event town and that game was an event. Mobilians came out to see that game against an SEC team (supporting the Jags) where they haven't been out to see us play the FCS and Division II schools we played during our startup. We would have had well over 30k people against Troy in 2012 but that game was played in a monsoon. The bookstore tent ran out of ponchos and there were thousands of people that never left their tailgate tent because they didn't want to get soaked. Give us time. We are in our 6th year as a program EVER. We don't have decades' old following like the other programs we are competing against. We are building our tradition and core fanbase now.

Why is it hard to believe that a Mobile MSA of over 600,000 wouldn't put more people than normal in the stands wearing Jaguar red for the biggest sporting event in Mobile in decades? The MSU @ USA game made more money than the Senior Bowl and GoDaddy Bowls combined. That's what kind of event this was in Mobile.

He probably would not have be defensive if you had of known what you were spouting off about, but you didn't even come close.

(10-06-2014 11:01 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 08:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 09:27 AM)StillGotIt Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 08:20 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 07:50 AM)AppMtneer08 Wrote:  If anything is going to have an effect on USA, it will be the sight of a capacity crowd for a home game. something they don't get to experience

Zing!

The gameday atmosphere is going to surprise a lot of our new conference brothers this year.

C'mon guys, try to put a little effort into the smack. We all know USA had a home crowd this year larger than anything App has ever had or probably ever will have.

You guys didn't sell out Ladd Peebles stadium (40,000) for a top 20 SEC team (38,129) with them putting more people in the stands than you guys. KBS seats 23,150, but the bank allows for many more. App's largest home crowd of 31,500 was for FCS Elon (who might have brought the 500). Elon. Let that sink in a few seconds. If App were to bring in a top 20 SEC team they would have to add 20,000 seats.

No question App is struggling right now. Last night was a historic night with our first ever FBS home game and I was ashamed at how our fans didn't show up for the game to begin with, then left the stadium early. App fans have been spoiled with success. Many are arrogant and unrealistic. Most were making predictions of 5-6 wins prior to the season. Why they thought a roster loaded with FBS freshmen and not very good FCS upperclassmen would be better than one loaded with upperclass FBS players is beyond me.

Until ya'll start running the ball and stop pretending to be an Air Raid team, I don't see this getting better. I've watched Satterfield completely go away from the offense that made ya'll GOOD and it's confusing.

I have no idea what happened to us against you guys last year but we straight up shouldn't have lost that game. We got blasted, but it's amazing that it happened.

When I look at you guys right now I see us in the late 2008/2009 timeframe. That is not somewhere you want to be.

We have to throw it because we can't run the ball. Our OL is about the worst I've ever seen at App, and I've been watching since 1975.

(10-06-2014 11:15 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 08:16 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 07:47 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 09:15 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 08:38 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  You guys didn't sell out Ladd Peebles stadium (40,000) for a top 20 SEC team (38,129) with them putting more people in the stands than you guys. KBS seats 23,150, but the bank allows for many more. App's largest home crowd of 31,500 was for FCS Elon (who might have brought the 500). Elon. Let that sink in a few seconds. If App were to bring in a top 20 SEC team they would have to add 20,000 seats.

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

1. The game was a sellout. Ladd's capacity has changed a bit after some renovations. It's now 38k. There is no room for overflow crowd and no place for standing room only.

2. It was a sellout. A sellout for a then unranked MSU.

3. It was a sellout. MSU fans came nowhere close to outnumbering USA fans. They probably had about 4500-5000. Speaking out of your butt that their fans outnumbered us doesn't make it true.

4. It was a sellout. The announced attendance (38,129) was announced as a sellout. Literally the ticket office had 0 tickets left for this game.

I apologize for getting the capacity wrong for Ladd Peebles Stadium. I got the number from another website and actually spoke to several of your fans in Boone who also told me about the renovations and the reduced capacity. As an FYI, the 2014 USA media guide shows the stadium's capacity at 33,471 after renovations.

I was obviously being a bit sarcastic saying the Miss State fans outnumbered your folks, but we still have something of an issue here. The media guide also indicates USA's largest crowd prior to the Miss State game was 26,738. If attendance was 38,129 I have to believe the Miss State fans accounted for more than "4500-5000" of the 11,348 additional fans over USA's previous largest crowd ever. Ranked or unranked Miss State is still an SEC school that draws 60,000+ each home game and travels extremely well. Especially that close to home.

BTW, I can take being corrected but there's no need to get so defensive.

I was defensive because you were just plain wrong and spouting it off as fact. USA has signage in the end zone sections that reduce the capacity to 33k. That was removed for the MSU game which bumped capacity back to 38k.

Mobile is an event town and that game was an event. Mobilians came out to see that game against an SEC team (supporting the Jags) where they haven't been out to see us play the FCS and Division II schools we played during our startup. We would have had well over 30k people against Troy in 2012 but that game was played in a monsoon. The bookstore tent ran out of ponchos and there were thousands of people that never left their tailgate tent because they didn't want to get soaked. Give us time. We are in our 6th year as a program EVER. We don't have decades' old following like the other programs we are competing against. We are building our tradition and core fanbase now.

Why is it hard to believe that a Mobile MSA of over 600,000 wouldn't put more people than normal in the stands wearing Jaguar red for the biggest sporting event in Mobile in decades? The MSU @ USA game made more money than the Senior Bowl and GoDaddy Bowls combined. That's what kind of event this was in Mobile.

He probably would not have be defensive if you had of known what you were spouting off about, but you didn't even come close.

AS I EXPLAINED..... I got the 40K number from a stadium website. However your guy says LP seats 38K with no room for overflow, yet your media guide says 33K. Tell your people to get some things straightened out and perhaps we'll not have these issues. Peace!

(10-06-2014 12:39 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:15 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 08:16 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 07:47 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 09:15 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

1. The game was a sellout. Ladd's capacity has changed a bit after some renovations. It's now 38k. There is no room for overflow crowd and no place for standing room only.

2. It was a sellout. A sellout for a then unranked MSU.

3. It was a sellout. MSU fans came nowhere close to outnumbering USA fans. They probably had about 4500-5000. Speaking out of your butt that their fans outnumbered us doesn't make it true.

4. It was a sellout. The announced attendance (38,129) was announced as a sellout. Literally the ticket office had 0 tickets left for this game.

I apologize for getting the capacity wrong for Ladd Peebles Stadium. I got the number from another website and actually spoke to several of your fans in Boone who also told me about the renovations and the reduced capacity. As an FYI, the 2014 USA media guide shows the stadium's capacity at 33,471 after renovations.

I was obviously being a bit sarcastic saying the Miss State fans outnumbered your folks, but we still have something of an issue here. The media guide also indicates USA's largest crowd prior to the Miss State game was 26,738. If attendance was 38,129 I have to believe the Miss State fans accounted for more than "4500-5000" of the 11,348 additional fans over USA's previous largest crowd ever. Ranked or unranked Miss State is still an SEC school that draws 60,000+ each home game and travels extremely well. Especially that close to home.

BTW, I can take being corrected but there's no need to get so defensive.

I was defensive because you were just plain wrong and spouting it off as fact. USA has signage in the end zone sections that reduce the capacity to 33k. That was removed for the MSU game which bumped capacity back to 38k.

Mobile is an event town and that game was an event. Mobilians came out to see that game against an SEC team (supporting the Jags) where they haven't been out to see us play the FCS and Division II schools we played during our startup. We would have had well over 30k people against Troy in 2012 but that game was played in a monsoon. The bookstore tent ran out of ponchos and there were thousands of people that never left their tailgate tent because they didn't want to get soaked. Give us time. We are in our 6th year as a program EVER. We don't have decades' old following like the other programs we are competing against. We are building our tradition and core fanbase now.

Why is it hard to believe that a Mobile MSA of over 600,000 wouldn't put more people than normal in the stands wearing Jaguar red for the biggest sporting event in Mobile in decades? The MSU @ USA game made more money than the Senior Bowl and GoDaddy Bowls combined. That's what kind of event this was in Mobile.

He probably would not have be defensive if you had of known what you were spouting off about, but you didn't even come close.

AS I EXPLAINED..... I got the 40K number from a stadium website. However your guy says LP seats 38K with no room for overflow, yet your media guide says 33K. Tell your people to get some things straightened out and perhaps we'll not have these issues. Peace!

For simplicity sake, Ladd's capacity (after renovations) is 38k. There is no room for overflow crowd.

USA's setup includes banners in the endzones. This reduces the official capacity for USA games 33k.

The banners were removed for the MSU game to make space for 5k more people. USA's media guide is not wrong since capacity at our games is 33k with the banners, but I understand why it's unclear to those unfamiliar with the situation.

(10-06-2014 12:53 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 12:39 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:15 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 08:16 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 07:47 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  I apologize for getting the capacity wrong for Ladd Peebles Stadium. I got the number from another website and actually spoke to several of your fans in Boone who also told me about the renovations and the reduced capacity. As an FYI, the 2014 USA media guide shows the stadium's capacity at 33,471 after renovations.

I was obviously being a bit sarcastic saying the Miss State fans outnumbered your folks, but we still have something of an issue here. The media guide also indicates USA's largest crowd prior to the Miss State game was 26,738. If attendance was 38,129 I have to believe the Miss State fans accounted for more than "4500-5000" of the 11,348 additional fans over USA's previous largest crowd ever. Ranked or unranked Miss State is still an SEC school that draws 60,000+ each home game and travels extremely well. Especially that close to home.

BTW, I can take being corrected but there's no need to get so defensive.

I was defensive because you were just plain wrong and spouting it off as fact. USA has signage in the end zone sections that reduce the capacity to 33k. That was removed for the MSU game which bumped capacity back to 38k.

Mobile is an event town and that game was an event. Mobilians came out to see that game against an SEC team (supporting the Jags) where they haven't been out to see us play the FCS and Division II schools we played during our startup. We would have had well over 30k people against Troy in 2012 but that game was played in a monsoon. The bookstore tent ran out of ponchos and there were thousands of people that never left their tailgate tent because they didn't want to get soaked. Give us time. We are in our 6th year as a program EVER. We don't have decades' old following like the other programs we are competing against. We are building our tradition and core fanbase now.

Why is it hard to believe that a Mobile MSA of over 600,000 wouldn't put more people than normal in the stands wearing Jaguar red for the biggest sporting event in Mobile in decades? The MSU @ USA game made more money than the Senior Bowl and GoDaddy Bowls combined. That's what kind of event this was in Mobile.

He probably would not have be defensive if you had of known what you were spouting off about, but you didn't even come close.

AS I EXPLAINED..... I got the 40K number from a stadium website. However your guy says LP seats 38K with no room for overflow, yet your media guide says 33K. Tell your people to get some things straightened out and perhaps we'll not have these issues. Peace!

For simplicity sake, Ladd's capacity (after renovations) is 38k. There is no room for overflow crowd.

USA's setup includes banners in the endzones. This reduces the official capacity for USA games 33k.

The banners were removed for the MSU game to make space for 5k more people. USA's media guide is not wrong since capacity at our games is 33k with the banners, but I understand why it's unclear to those unfamiliar with the situation.

10-4!