http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant. And this was a guy who had worked with O'Leary before at another school and came back to work for him this last spring.

Unless there's someone who can cooberate, its a non-story.

(09-30-2014 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant. And this was a guy who had worked with O'Leary before at another school and came back to work for him this last spring.

Unless there's someone who can cooberate, its a non-story.

I'd have to agree. As of now, nobody has spoken out in agreement and no evidence has been presented. We'll see if anything comes up, though. This was rumored to be O'Leary's last year anyway.

(09-30-2014 10:14 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant. And this was a guy who had worked with O'Leary before at another school and came back to work for him this last spring.

Unless there's someone who can cooberate, its a non-story.

I'd have to agree. As of now, nobody has spoken out in agreement and no evidence has been presented. We'll see if anything comes up, though. This was rumored to be O'Leary's last year anyway.

Who do you think will replace him? You have to be careful are you could be the next SMU, Boise State or Marshall.

(09-30-2014 10:19 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 10:14 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant. And this was a guy who had worked with O'Leary before at another school and came back to work for him this last spring.

Unless there's someone who can cooberate, its a non-story.

I'd have to agree. As of now, nobody has spoken out in agreement and no evidence has been presented. We'll see if anything comes up, though. This was rumored to be O'Leary's last year anyway.

Who do you think will replace him? You have to be careful are you could be the next SMU, Boise State or Marshall.

Doc Holiday from Marshall would be a decent hire for UCF. He would recruit great being in Orlando

The crux of Ferraro's argument is that GOL created a hostile work environment by being a bully, changing the expectations of the job, and peppering speech with racial slurs and expletives. Ferraro fired off an email to the whole staff saying more or less "I cannot stand to work here anymore" because of the hostile environment and being asked to install 8 pressures instead of 3 for Spring Ball. He cleaned out his office and left his UCF-issued cell phone and ID on his desk and left town. When interviewed by the UCFAA HR guy and UCF's EEO Director after sending the email, Ferraro admittedly did not relay to them any of the specific racial slurs he later listed in the lawsuit, and only has done so months later once he realized he's without a job and can't get his old job at Maine back and he brings the threat of legal action against UCF.

I have no idea if the slurs are a true accusation or not. But even if they were, they are obscure, esoteric, and infrequent at best, as described in the complaint. I mean, WTF is the Ru-Ru tribe? Really? That's what's going to bring down a HC in football who's weathered two major NCAA violations and a player dying in camp? If so we have taken this whole thing WAY too seriously.

I call shennanigans on this one. Also, if you have a dude that old as your coach, you have to expect him to say some politically incorrect things. It's a generational thing, like when Bill Parcells mentioned that they were going to run some "jap plays."

(09-30-2014 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant.

I have zero faith in 'reviews' done by interested parties, and UCF surely is an interested party. And neither should you.

Hey Folks! Nothing to see here! We investigated ourselves and guess what? We're clean!

(10-01-2014 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant.

I have zero faith in 'reviews' done by interested parties, and UCF surely is an interested party. And neither should you.

Hey Folks! Nothing to see here! We investigated ourselves and guess what? We're clean!

They had an internal EEOC group review it as soon as the coach sent the letter and not just when the lawsuit was filed. They were investigating one man, not a whole school. Schools do care about this sort of thing.

(10-01-2014 08:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant.

I have zero faith in 'reviews' done by interested parties, and UCF surely is an interested party. And neither should you.

Hey Folks! Nothing to see here! We investigated ourselves and guess what? We're clean!

They had an internal EEOC group review it as soon as the coach sent the letter and not just when the lawsuit was filed. They were investigating one man, not a whole school. Schools do care about this sort of thing.

Schools do care, but let's face it: They want and hope that the incident didn't happen. That is a much better outcome for them than if it did. They don't want to lose their winning football coach, nor do they want the stain on the university.

So that's why you can't trust that kind of investigation, whether by an "internal EEOC group" or some other part of the organization. Their internal investigation is like the Ravens investigating Ray Rice or the NFL concluding that concussions aren't so bad or USC investigating Reggie Bush. You can't trust it. You need an investigation by a disinterested third party without skin in the game.

(10-01-2014 08:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16453921/

Looks like another Jimmy the Greek story line.

Sounds more like someone trying to win a lawsuit making stuff up.

Its already been internally reviewed and the story I read said no one backed up the assistant.

I have zero faith in 'reviews' done by interested parties, and UCF surely is an interested party. And neither should you.

Hey Folks! Nothing to see here! We investigated ourselves and guess what? We're clean!

They had an internal EEOC group review it as soon as the coach sent the letter and not just when the lawsuit was filed. They were investigating one man, not a whole school. Schools do care about this sort of thing.

The plaintiff of the lawsuit admitted that he did not detail the slurs used during that "investigation" to the EEO director. He never mentioned the details to anyone at UCF, only using vague language. He even signed off on the summary report and admitted in the lawsuit that it was incomplete because he did not detail the specific slurs that were used.

So essentially, UCF conducted an inquiry, but the plaintiff either refused to cooperate (which is odd if he's really trying to force change) or he is making it up after the fact. UCF took it seriously and expeditiously, but without much to go on, the investigation couldn't conclude anything improper had really occurred.

(09-30-2014 10:49 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  I call shennanigans on this one. Also, if you have a dude that old as your coach, you have to expect him to say some politically incorrect things. It's a generational thing, like when Bill Parcells mentioned that they were going to run some "jap plays."

Absolutely! Isn't it also discrimination when You get called " Old Coot" , Geezer, Gramps, A$$ Hole, Old Fart , Redneck ect ? Two can play that game in PC.

You can say one thing about George O'Leary, he must be related to Chicago's Mrs. O'Leary, because every where he has been a head coach, there have been plenty of raging fires!