(10-02-2014 09:27 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:01 PM)mlb Wrote:  Threat title" My husband divorced me for his gay lover - then took our children"

I'm impressed you were able to come out about your sexuality, ER. Kudos.

Maybe i'm wrong but i thought this kind of pettiness was why the rules of the spin room changed. I thought we were suppose to discuss the topic and avoid the personal?

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Yep. This was before the changes were made. Look at the time of the post.

(10-02-2014 09:27 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:01 PM)mlb Wrote:  Threat title" My husband divorced me for his gay lover - then took our children"

I'm impressed you were able to come out about your sexuality, ER. Kudos.

Maybe i'm wrong but i thought this kind of pettiness was why the rules of the spin room changed. I thought we were suppose to discuss the topic and avoid the personal?

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe that comment was made before the rule change. Shrug. -edit- mlb beat me to it -edit-

(10-02-2014 10:04 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 09:27 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:01 PM)mlb Wrote:  Threat title" My husband divorced me for his gay lover - then took our children"

I'm impressed you were able to come out about your sexuality, ER. Kudos.

Maybe i'm wrong but i thought this kind of pettiness was why the rules of the spin room changed. I thought we were suppose to discuss the topic and avoid the personal?

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Yep. This was before the changes were made. Look at the time of the post.

Gotcha, I figured it was a new thread. To early in the morning.




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(10-02-2014 09:48 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 05:02 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:35 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Clearly the answer is to not allow him to marry or divorce this woman, and to continue onward with a wholly unhealthy relationship.

You're a master of missing the damn point...

The answer was to leave the kids with their biological mother as is the case in more than 70% of divorces.

And you think such a position is rational and fair when 65-70% of divorces are initiated by women? Each custody case should be evaluated on its own merits.

I think unless there is a compelling reason *NOT* to leave the kid with mom that's where they should go... Life is not supposed to be fair by the way. Part of the spineless character which we are breeding into kids is that life should be fair.

(10-02-2014 11:21 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I think unless there is a compelling reason *NOT* to leave the kid with mom that's where they should go... Life is not supposed to be fair by the way. Part of the spineless character which we are breeding into kids is that life should be fair.

That is where I vehemently disagree. My ex-wife was allowed to move my kids 90 minutes away from me because the court was concerned if I got full custody that she wouldn't be a part of their life in the same way they knew I would (came from the mouth of the guardian ad-litem). So, because they deem me as someone who would be completely involved in the lives of my kids wherever they live, I get screwed. Granted, they did offer me 3 weekends a month and equal time when they are not in school, but the point of the matter is that both sets of grandparents are 10 minutes from my house (the house the kids were born in and we lived in together) and their only cousin is 20 minutes away (my nephew, not hers).

I feel for the kids. That really sucks.

(10-02-2014 11:21 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 09:48 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 05:02 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:35 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Clearly the answer is to not allow him to marry or divorce this woman, and to continue onward with a wholly unhealthy relationship.

You're a master of missing the damn point...

The answer was to leave the kids with their biological mother as is the case in more than 70% of divorces.

And you think such a position is rational and fair when 65-70% of divorces are initiated by women? Each custody case should be evaluated on its own merits.

I think unless there is a compelling reason *NOT* to leave the kid with mom that's where they should go... Life is not supposed to be fair by the way. Part of the spineless character which we are breeding into kids is that life should be fair.

You're right, life's not fair and it ain't a circus either. But women aren't blessed with some special insight that automatically makes them better parents than men. Just like men aren't automatically the deficient parental unit just because they didn't carry the child to term.

(10-02-2014 11:38 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 11:21 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 09:48 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 05:02 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:35 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Clearly the answer is to not allow him to marry or divorce this woman, and to continue onward with a wholly unhealthy relationship.

You're a master of missing the damn point...

The answer was to leave the kids with their biological mother as is the case in more than 70% of divorces.

And you think such a position is rational and fair when 65-70% of divorces are initiated by women? Each custody case should be evaluated on its own merits.

I think unless there is a compelling reason *NOT* to leave the kid with mom that's where they should go... Life is not supposed to be fair by the way. Part of the spineless character which we are breeding into kids is that life should be fair.

You're right, life's not fair and it ain't a circus either. But women aren't blessed with some special insight that automatically makes them better parents than men. Just like men aren't automatically the deficient parental unit just because they didn't carry the child to term.

True. But in this instance the father left the marriage, and is doing his kids no favors.

100 percent of all marriages end in death or divorce. I don't know why anyone even bothers with it knowing those odds.

(10-02-2014 11:45 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  100 percent of all marriages end in death or divorce. I don't know why anyone even bothers with it knowing those odds.

latest figures show most are not dealing with it.

Since this appears to be another pointless, homophobic topic, shouldn't it be moved to the old board??

(10-02-2014 04:55 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Since this appears to be another pointless, homophobic topic, shouldn't it be moved to the old board??

I second this motion

(10-02-2014 04:55 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Since this appears to be another pointless, homophobic topic, shouldn't it be moved to the old board??

The thread was started before the changes were enacted. That's why it's still on this board.

(10-02-2014 11:43 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 11:38 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 11:21 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 09:48 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 05:02 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  You're a master of missing the damn point...

The answer was to leave the kids with their biological mother as is the case in more than 70% of divorces.

And you think such a position is rational and fair when 65-70% of divorces are initiated by women? Each custody case should be evaluated on its own merits.

I think unless there is a compelling reason *NOT* to leave the kid with mom that's where they should go... Life is not supposed to be fair by the way. Part of the spineless character which we are breeding into kids is that life should be fair.

You're right, life's not fair and it ain't a circus either. But women aren't blessed with some special insight that automatically makes them better parents than men. Just like men aren't automatically the deficient parental unit just because they didn't carry the child to term.

True. But in this instance the father left the marriage, and is doing his kids no favors.

That he left the marriage could just as easily be a sign of her problems as much as a sign of his. She could easily be an abusive alcoholic, and that's why he left her and got the kids. Everything I know about family court, which admittedly isn't a whole lot, makes me assume there was a reason this mother didn't get the kids. Courts aren't keen on taking kids away from their mother or moving them, and unless there are reasons otherwise, that's usually how it results.

Which, is unfair, because I know plenty of fathers who were far better parents than their wives/mothers. There's a lot more to being a good parent than what's between your legs.

(10-04-2014 04:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  That he left the marriage could just as easily be a sign of her problems as much as a sign of his

He left for a gay relationship... Was her ***** not big enough for him?.... He put himself in front of his family.

(10-04-2014 06:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 04:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  That he left the marriage could just as easily be a sign of her problems as much as a sign of his

He left for a gay relationship... Was her ***** not big enough for him?.... He put himself in front of his family.

Maybe she turned him gay.

(10-04-2014 06:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 04:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  That he left the marriage could just as easily be a sign of her problems as much as a sign of his

He left for a gay relationship... Was her ***** not big enough for him?.... He put himself in front of his family.

Him leaving her for a gay relationship doesn't help his chances of getting the kids, the statement was meant to be used in that context.

This woman gets no sympathy from me. Men have been screwed in divorces for decades.

I pay child support and my ex uses that money for her retirement accounts and to take cruises. I still pay for the kids' food, clothing, medical, athletics, contact lenses, college tuition, etc. I'm living on 30% of my salary for my mortgage, car payment, etc.

To hell with women and their whining.

(10-04-2014 09:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This woman gets no sympathy from me. Men have been screwed in divorces for decades.

I pay child support and my ex uses that money for her retirement accounts and to take cruises. I still pay for the kids' food, clothing, medical, athletics, contact lenses, college tuition, etc. I'm living on 30% of my salary for my mortgage, car payment, etc.

To hell with women and their whining.

Maybe you need a "good" lawyer. It's not right that you should be paying for all that yourself.

(10-05-2014 07:00 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(10-04-2014 09:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This woman gets no sympathy from me. Men have been screwed in divorces for decades.

I pay child support and my ex uses that money for her retirement accounts and to take cruises. I still pay for the kids' food, clothing, medical, athletics, contact lenses, college tuition, etc. I'm living on 30% of my salary for my mortgage, car payment, etc.

To hell with women and their whining.

Maybe you need a "good" lawyer. It's not right that you should be paying for all that yourself.

I appreciate your thoughts, but I've had two lawyers ... one male and one female. They both said in Texas the man *always* pays the woman, unless the woman has been convicted of selling drugs. And the courts don't care about me paying for all of the kids' clothes, athletic expenses, and music lessons (in addition to the routine child support).