Dear Brady Hoke, ya done kid. I had high hopes for you, but I also did for Tim Beckmam at Illinois (this is why I 'm not in charge of coach hirings). I say Michigan goes for broke and pursues Harbough and Les Miles, both are not in great standing with their current teams and both have huge recognition. I say Harbough doesn't bight but in a tough SEC west LSU is gonna struggle (7-5) and Les Miles bolts to coach Michigan. I know Brandon has beef with Miles, but I think he quickly realizes his job is in danger and it is time to nut up or shut up, he begs Miles and offers him a massive contract and within five years Michigan will win the B1G again.

Since its starting to look like a question of when he gets fired, not if, a better poll question would be when he gets fired.

I would think the earliest would be a bye week between PSU on Oct 11 and MSU on oct 25. But I would think Dave Brandon would give Hoke at least 1 last chance to beat MSU and save his job.

There is another bye week in November after Nw on Nov 8. Then Md is 2nd last game on Nov 22 and OSU the last game on Nov 29. The 2nd bye week after Nw seems the best time to give Hoke the pink slip.

They'll try hard for Harbaugh. I don't know if they'll be able to get him or not. I think Les Miles will say yes, but he really should have had it twice before already and I'm not sure you still go to him now (first time, news broke too early and then LSU ended up in national championship game and Miles wasn't leaving that hanging over their head so declined; 2nd time Michigan didn't seem interested).

(09-29-2014 09:24 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  They'll try hard for Harbaugh. I don't know if they'll be able to get him or not. I think Les Miles will say yes, but he really should have had it twice before already and I'm not sure you still go to him now (first time, news broke too early and then LSU ended up in national championship game and Miles wasn't leaving that hanging over their head so declined; 2nd time Michigan didn't seem interested).

Les is making $5 million now. I don't think Michigan will match that. I think Saban and Miles will retire out of their positions. Now, perhaps Les wants to simply go home to save Momma, but most of these guys are total mercenaries. We'll see.

(09-29-2014 01:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 09:24 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  They'll try hard for Harbaugh. I don't know if they'll be able to get him or not. I think Les Miles will say yes, but he really should have had it twice before already and I'm not sure you still go to him now (first time, news broke too early and then LSU ended up in national championship game and Miles wasn't leaving that hanging over their head so declined; 2nd time Michigan didn't seem interested).

Les is making $5 million now. I don't think Michigan will match that. I think Saban and Miles will retire out of their positions. Now, perhaps Les wants to simply go home to save Momma, but most of these guys are total mercenaries. We'll see.

After the last two hires I have a hard time believing Michigan is going to let money be the obstacle that prevents them from getting the coach they want.

(09-29-2014 05:26 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 09:24 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  They'll try hard for Harbaugh. I don't know if they'll be able to get him or not. I think Les Miles will say yes, but he really should have had it twice before already and I'm not sure you still go to him now (first time, news broke too early and then LSU ended up in national championship game and Miles wasn't leaving that hanging over their head so declined; 2nd time Michigan didn't seem interested).

Les is making $5 million now. I don't think Michigan will match that. I think Saban and Miles will retire out of their positions. Now, perhaps Les wants to simply go home to save Momma, but most of these guys are total mercenaries. We'll see.

After the last two hires I have a hard time believing Michigan is going to let money be the obstacle that prevents them from getting the coach they want.

Money isn't the problem, it's a power hungry AD and boosters who threaten to pull hundreds of millions from the school that is. Grow some balls and deal with the pay cut.

(09-29-2014 05:37 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 05:26 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 09:24 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  They'll try hard for Harbaugh. I don't know if they'll be able to get him or not. I think Les Miles will say yes, but he really should have had it twice before already and I'm not sure you still go to him now (first time, news broke too early and then LSU ended up in national championship game and Miles wasn't leaving that hanging over their head so declined; 2nd time Michigan didn't seem interested).

Les is making $5 million now. I don't think Michigan will match that. I think Saban and Miles will retire out of their positions. Now, perhaps Les wants to simply go home to save Momma, but most of these guys are total mercenaries. We'll see.

After the last two hires I have a hard time believing Michigan is going to let money be the obstacle that prevents them from getting the coach they want.

Money isn't the problem, it's a power hungry AD and boosters who threaten to pull hundreds of millions from the school that is. Grow some balls and deal with the pay cut.

I think Michigan needs to fire both the A.D. and Hoke. I do think Jurich would be a good one for Michigan and they really should consider Mullen for coach.

I wouldn't have been able to be so sure in my opinion that Jim Harbaugh will be the next Head Coach of the Michigan Wolverines but the propaganda campaign has already begun in San Francisco. Either he wants out, the ownership wants him out or the players want him out but they are already setting the tone with putting out the talking points of how all the players there don't like him.

Even Deion Sanders is talking about it and he is known for being able to cultivate amazing relationships with current players. They supposedly tell him anything. He is now calling out the situation so it is for real.

I don't know if Harbaugh will make it through the full season. Considering Hoke may not either, it could "coincidentally" work out perfectly.

I like Les because it will complete the Big Ten east invasion of the SEC coaching tree, but I think Jim is a better fit.

I don't care who coaches between now & January, I don't want hoke to have any more association with our program starting immediately.

(09-29-2014 05:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 05:37 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 05:26 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 09:24 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  They'll try hard for Harbaugh. I don't know if they'll be able to get him or not. I think Les Miles will say yes, but he really should have had it twice before already and I'm not sure you still go to him now (first time, news broke too early and then LSU ended up in national championship game and Miles wasn't leaving that hanging over their head so declined; 2nd time Michigan didn't seem interested).

Les is making $5 million now. I don't think Michigan will match that. I think Saban and Miles will retire out of their positions. Now, perhaps Les wants to simply go home to save Momma, but most of these guys are total mercenaries. We'll see.

After the last two hires I have a hard time believing Michigan is going to let money be the obstacle that prevents them from getting the coach they want.

Money isn't the problem, it's a power hungry AD and boosters who threaten to pull hundreds of millions from the school that is. Grow some balls and deal with the pay cut.

I think Michigan needs to fire both the A.D. and Hoke. I do think Jurich would be a good one for Michigan and they really should consider Mullen for coach.

Prying Jurich away from Louisville would be tricky. I think he likes running the athletics juggernaut he has built. But I will say this there would be no better hire for any school in the country. He's the best in the business.

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If Harbaugh's personality is a detriment for an NFL team it may be an issue during recruiting as well. There are plenty of quality candidates available, Michigan has to find the right fit.

Should go for Narduzzi imho.

(09-30-2014 09:46 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  Should go for Narduzzi imho.

Idk why SMU doesn't go for Narduzzi, they have the money and resources, he'd just need to learn texas recruiting.

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(09-30-2014 09:42 AM)Policiious Wrote:  If Harbaugh's personality is a detriment for an NFL team it may be an issue during recruiting as well. There are plenty of quality candidates available, Michigan has to find the right fit.

It could be, but I'm inclined to think it's less an issue at the college level than at the pros where the coach is only kind of the boss (players making 8 figures trumping his importance). He was amazing at Stanford and I think the best bet for Michigan all around. Probably yet another example of a great college coach who isn't the right mold for the pros (the opposite is true sometimes too).

(09-30-2014 09:46 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  Should go for Narduzzi imho.

Definitely very good and should be a head coach if he wants to be. I'm not sure if you are Michigan you go for a coordinator though. They want as sure fire thing as possible and someone they think is good on both sides of the ball.

(09-30-2014 01:47 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 09:46 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  Should go for Narduzzi imho.

Definitely very good and should be a head coach if he wants to be. I'm not sure if you are Michigan you go for a coordinator though. They want as sure fire thing as possible and someone they think is good on both sides of the ball.

Narduzzi is who I would want if Rutgers cans Kyle Flood. He has the recruiting and familial ties to both the midwest and northeast. And he would bring back the Schiano-style defense that we frankly miss.

(09-30-2014 09:42 AM)Policiious Wrote:  If Harbaugh's personality is a detriment for an NFL team it may be an issue during recruiting as well. There are plenty of quality candidates available, Michigan has to find the right fit.

The details have come out. The examples given are that Harbaugh has kept those professional players from having music on the plane and has kept them from playing cards.

The issues are not big issues but they are much bigger issues when dealing with professionals in comparison to dealing with student athletes.

I highly doubt these practices are brand new for Harbaugh. I think some guys are simply tired of it. I would bet that he did similar things at Stanford. Students will put up with it and perhaps be better for it. Professionals have Way too much ego to put up with that kind of ****.

Many coaches are not pleasant people. They tend to be hyper-competitive, arrogant, paranoid, control freaks much of the time. So personality should not play into it unless the big cigars and UM need their egos stroked. I know there is some tension there, but I bet the guy still loves Michigan and he can coach his ass off. He turned Stanford around. He turned S.F around. He will turn Michigan around quickly if hired. If Harbaugh wants the job, UM would be crazy to pass on him.

If Harbaugh wants the job, then the competition is over. No one else stacks up to him in terms of what he has done and the fact that he is an ex Wolverine Quarterback to boot. What he did at Stanford makes the job his.

Les Miles is not coming North folks, sorry.

(10-02-2014 08:28 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Les Miles is not coming North folks, sorry.

I think he'd still be tempted. He's getting older and I'm not sure leaving LSU now would be a good move, but he was all but signed the first time and it was the early reporting and LSU making the national title bowl that held him out. The 2nd time I don't get the impression he was really considered (although he should have been). That said, I'm not entirely sure either way and I don't think it will come to that as I think choice 1A in Harbaugh will be chosen.